So, would you say that most people have never ... lied, failed to fulfill a promise, spoken spitefully, done something that they had promised themselves, and others, that they would never do again, ... ?
Of course they have. That makes them pretty bog-standard, ordinary human beings - you see the same kinds of behaviours in chimps and bonobos, our nearest evolutionary ancestors -, ...
Good old Shaker, since he can't cope with the argument he introduces a red herring.
However, to satisfy you Shaker, the Bible makes it clear that the creation is messed up
as a result of humanity's failure to exercise dominion over it. Now, I realise that many seem to regard 'dominion' as the same as 'domination' (and it is true that they come from the same root word.. If you look the words up in an etymological dictionary, you will find that there are differences in meaning. When you look them up in a Hebrew dictionary, 'dominion' refers to the responsible stewarding of what one owns, both for your benefit and the benefit of the property; 'domination' has no connotation of 'responsible stewardship'.
not factory-damaged, inherently tainted defects until and unless they claim to believe in a raft of ludicrous claims about magic SuperJew.
Where in the Bible does it even suggest that the animal kindom has to believe in Jesus, and his saving grace? That was for humanity's sake and, through humanity, will lead to the animal world being released from its humanly instituted suffering - things like pollution, the destruction of habitat and of the natural balance.
That is the whole point of what you like to call 'Christianity's blanket appraisal of all humanity as tainted'.
How ridiculous.
No-one is perfect.
No idea what 'perfect' is supposed to mean.
Look at your first paragraph. You seem to have understood it there.
Christians believ that human beings were designed to be perfect and to enjoy an untainted relationship with God.
What colossal wank.
OK, you can choose to bgelieve that, but where is the evidence to support your belief?
That has not worked out.
Did God (a) not know about this in advance, (b) know about this in advance, wanted to prevent it but was unable to, or (c) know about this in advance, wanted to prevent it, was able to prevent but chose not to?
He had the choice to make robots of his human creation or to give them free will, to do as they pleased. He decided the latter, which meant that he satisfied your point (c). Aren't you glad that he did, thus allowing you to choose the position you hold in this regard?
