A new level of evil?

[Rhiannon]

I don't think the boys were into this but it appears holocaust stuff is collectable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2485251/Ebays-sick-trade-Holocaust-souvenirs-Outrage-auctions-Death-Camp-relics.html

That's an old article. I just did a quick eBay search and can't find anything that looks like it was stolen from the camps.

[Ricky Spanish]

So how do their actions compound that of the Nazis if they are only responsible for their actions?

If you do not unbsderstand the principle of addition - go back to school and learn!

I understand the principle of addition.

What I haven't seen is any justification for claiming that their actions compound those of the Nazis.

[OH MY WORLD!]

Can Matty at least admit that this is NOT a new level of anything. At least once or twice a year people are caught trying to take artifacts away. Have you absorbed that fact yet dear Matty?

[OH MY WORLD!]

Good grief Rhi, not so long ago. Ebay only apologized like in 2013. Is that so long ago to you that mentioning Auschwitz artifacts were being sold on Ebay, needed your scrutiny?

[Hope]

I may well have not put the point as well as I might - we are always  given to understand that these kind of schools only take in and put out the very best pupils, taught the highest standards of education and behaviiour.

Just a quick point, Nat.  The pupils at places like Perse are really no different to the majority of kids at state schools.  Yes, both groups have their extremes, whilst the main difference is that private school kidsa have parents who eaither have the money to pay for their kids' education or who choose to send them to private schools for specific reasons - such as the consistently high standard of sports coaching most enjoy.

And - to Hope - yes they got off with probabtion but the maximum sentence for what they did is, not 15, but 10 years imprisonment.

I was arguing with the possible consequences; just pointing that suggesting that they might get a worst-case punishment when the article had already outlined their punishment smacked of misrepresentation, or at least lack of articvle reading.
 

But Hell! They are British schoolchildren so heaven forbid they should have done anything wrong - stupid yes - wrong no!

No-one has suggested that what thy did was not wrong.  But to suggest that something that apparently happens quite regularly is 'a new level of evil' is overstating the point, and actually undermining your otherwise valid point.

[Rhiannon]

Good grief Rhi, not so long ago. Ebay only apologized like in 2013. Is that so long ago to you that mentioning Auschwitz artifacts were being sold on Ebay, needed your scrutiny?

I followed Rose's story and then looked to see if such items were still slipping through - AFAIK eBay still rely on items bring reported before they get taken down as unsuitable. I wanted to check because if the trade is still carrying on then selling stuff on eBay is a plausible reason for the young men to steal, but as it isn't that is a much less likely motive and we are probably back to souvenir hunting.

[floo]

During the war one of the German soldiers who occupied my childhood home was also a cartoonist. He produced a number of pictures of the wartime island bigwigs, which he left behind when the island was liberated. Throughout my childhood these pictures were hung on the walls of one of our landings. When the house was sold in 1984 my parents put them in a storage box and forgot about them. After their deaths my siblings and I had to decide what to do with the artwork. They were probably worth a bob or two, but we felt that they should not be sold, but donated to the museum of which my late father had been patron. They were gratefully received as a reminder of that unpleasant period in the island's past.

[Ricky Spanish]

And has anyone tried taking them from the museum?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I think a night in Polish youth detention plus the possibility of getting a lengthy jail sentence will have scared the whatsits out of them.

Bloody Hell! they nicked the wotsits as well?

[Rhiannon]

It's independent schooling for you. They end up with this huge sense of entitlement to cheesey snacks.

[cyberman]

Since no one has said they did nothing wrong then that is irrelevant. As to Rhiannon I have never said that she is lying because I don't think she has - is that so hard to understand? Your logic implies if I say Himmler was a disgusting evil person, I am some how not picking up Grayson Perry in the same way.

You carry on playing your pathetic games af semantics all you like - they do not interest me - they are something that you do when you have nothing of value to say!

It isn't semantics, old chap.

(a) you said people had said the boys had done nothing wrong. no-one had said that, so you are simply wrong.

(b) you have suggested that this theft is "a new level of evil". In a discussion which involves the holocaust, that is a big claim. no-one agrees with you and you seem unable to support it.

This isn't semantics, it is you making mistakes.

You lack what is required to admit to making mistakes, so you have gone on the offensive.

Nearly Sane has presented you with reasoned arguments to counter your position. As you are unable to address these you have deployed the word 'semantics' in the (mistaken) belief that this will make it look as though you were not really wrong.

p.s. I disagree with much of what NS posts, and I don't recall him ever calling me a liar. So, no, not everyone who disagrees with NS is a liar - just the lying ones.