Jesus Hates...

[trippymonkey]

OOH The IRONY of that reply ?!!?!?

[Leonard James]

Unfortunately for you, Sass, they are not facts or the truth ... they are just stories you believe because you are over-credulous.

Another claim masquerading as a fact. You atheists and your unsupported assertions!

Yes, some of us are as bad as Christians at it. 

[Hope]

Didn't you mean indoctrinated?

ippy

Not sure that 'indoctrinated' fits with literary criticism and linguistic study, ippy.  Sorry if you find the scientific/linguistic references hard to understand.

[Hope]

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out that the deity should have died itself if humans really needed 'saving', as human nature was its creation, rather than get a young unmarried girl pregnant, in order that his 'son' would die a gruesome death! Get real, Sass!

So, suddenly, you are suggesting that what the New Testament is all about - God dying to save humanity - is what he ought to have done.  I do believe that you are getting to close to understanding the material. 

[Hope]

I am truly sorry, Hope, but I have read your posts for a while now and there appears to be nothing that you haven't read about, been taught about, heard about, learnt about in you your travels just about everywhere and your interaction with just about every religion known to man or beast, and to try to talk to you is just about impossible as you seem to know just about everything about everything!

I leave you to your towering knowledge of everything.

Are you sure that you've been reading my posts, Nat.  Yes, I have had a wide range of experiences and done a fair amount of study during my life, but nothing that remotely reflects what you have described here.  I realise that hyperbole can sometimes make a point, but when its quite as off the wall as your post is, it becomes clear that the point has been lost.

[ippy]

Didn't you mean indoctrinated?

ippy

Not sure that 'indoctrinated' fits with literary criticism and linguistic study, ippy.  Sorry if you find the scientific/linguistic references hard to understand.

No not at all Hope, it's just that in the context of that post of yours you used the wrong word, brainwashing methods are not used anywhere any more because it proved to be unsuccessful, so really unless you're referring to the Koreans circa the Korean war, well, it no longer applies anywhere.

Nobody tries to brainwash people any more, it's not like it worked in the first place, you definitely meant indoctrination we all make mistakes, even I do from time to time, I know that's hard to believe but it's true.

Look it up on Wikkie you might learn something.

Ippy

[Owlswing]

I am truly sorry, Hope, but I have read your posts for a while now and there appears to be nothing that you haven't read about, been taught about, heard about, learnt about in you your travels just about everywhere and your interaction with just about every religion known to man or beast, and to try to talk to you is just about impossible as you seem to know just about everything about everything!

I leave you to your towering knowledge of everything.

Are you sure that you've been reading my posts, Nat.  Yes, I have had a wide range of experiences and done a fair amount of study during my life, but nothing that remotely reflects what you have described here.  I realise that hyperbole can sometimes make a point, but when its quite as off the wall as your post is, it becomes clear that the point has been lost.

DAMN GREAT BIG YAWN!

[cyberman]

OOH The IRONY of that reply ?!!?!?

Yes, well spotted. It is indeed ironic that atheists themselves are guilty of what they constantly bleat on about theists allegedly doing.

[Hope]

No not at all Hope, it's just that in the context of that post of yours you used the wrong word,...

In the context of that post, ippy - in which I was quoting another poster - the word was exactly right. 

Look it up on Wikkie you might learn something.

If you kept up with the thread, you might learn something as well.

[BashfulAnthony]

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out that the deity should have died itself if humans really needed 'saving', as human nature was its creation, rather than get a young unmarried girl pregnant, in order that his 'son' would die a gruesome death! Get real, Sass!

So, suddenly, you are suggesting that what the New Testament is all about - God dying to save humanity - is what he ought to have done.  I do believe that you are getting to close to understanding the material.

    And I'm going to win the Lottery for the next ten weeks in a row!!

[trippymonkey]

OOH The IRONY of that reply ?!!?!?

Yes, well spotted. It is indeed ironic that atheists themselves are guilty of what they constantly bleat on about theists allegedly doing.

And what might they be, por favor??
I'M not an atheist BTW

Nick

[cyberman]

OOH The IRONY of that reply ?!!?!?

Yes, well spotted. It is indeed ironic that atheists themselves are guilty of what they constantly bleat on about theists allegedly doing.

And what might they be, por favor??
I'M not an atheist BTW

Nick

(a) making assertions without evidence
(b) I never said (nor thought) you were. It isn't all about you, you know!

[floo]

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out that the deity should have died itself if humans really needed 'saving', as human nature was its creation, rather than get a young unmarried girl pregnant, in order that his 'son' would die a gruesome death! Get real, Sass!

So, suddenly, you are suggesting that what the New Testament is all about - God dying to save humanity - is what he ought to have done.  I do believe that you are getting to close to understanding the material.

What I understand is what fanciful nonsense it appears to be!

[ippy]

No not at all Hope, it's just that in the context of that post of yours you used the wrong word,...

In the context of that post, ippy - in which I was quoting another poster - the word was exactly right. 

Look it up on Wikkie you might learn something.

If you kept up with the thread, you might learn something as well.

Just because the other poster used the word brainwashing when they meant indoctrination doesn't excuse you from using the wrong word too.

You really need to get this indoctrination, ( that's what the religious do to as many young children they think they can get away with), as opposed to brainwashing mostly attempted, unsuccessfully,  by the Koreans in the fifties.

ippy

[cyberman]

indoctrination, ( that's what the religious do to as many young children they think they can get away with)

Really? And in the little drama which is going on in your head, do they have little meetings with calculators and flip-charts trying to work out how many they think they can get away with?

Have you spoken to a doctor about these conspiracy theories?

[ippy]

indoctrination, ( that's what the religious do to as many young children they think they can get away with)

Really? And in the little drama which is going on in your head, do they have little meetings with calculators and flip-charts trying to work out how many they think they can get away with?

Have you spoken to a doctor about these conspiracy theories?

Anything like indoctrination works on percentages. It's one thing attempting to indoctrinate people/children.

Ippy

[cyberman]

indoctrination, ( that's what the religious do to as many young children they think they can get away with)

Really? And in the little drama which is going on in your head, do they have little meetings with calculators and flip-charts trying to work out how many they think they can get away with?

Have you spoken to a doctor about these conspiracy theories?

Anything like indoctrination works on percentages. It's one thing attempting to indoctrinate people/children.

Ippy

Gosh, your delusion really is elaborate isn't it?

seek help.

[Hope]

Just because the other poster used the word brainwashing when they meant indoctrination doesn't excuse you from using the wrong word too.

So, you would like me to break the rules of the forum by quoting something said by another poster incorrectly?

You really need to get this indoctrination, ( that's what the religious do to as many young children they think they can get away with), ...

You need to understand that what the religious do is no different to what everyone does, ippy.  I realise that you think that using a big word like 'indoctrination' makes you sound big, but there is no more indoctrination by religious peole than there is by any parent.

[Shaker]

You need to understand that what the religious do is no different to what everyone does, ippy.  I realise that you think that using a big word like 'indoctrination' makes you sound big, but there is no more indoctrination by religious peole than there is by any parent.

Of the parent who says nothing at all about religion to their child(ren) and the parent who raises their offspring to believe that Christianity/Islam/Judaism/insert any other religion as the truth (indeed, the one, true, final, absolute and unalterable truth), it's pretty clear that the latter parent is doing far more in the indoctrination stakes.

[ippy]

Just because the other poster used the word brainwashing when they meant indoctrination doesn't excuse you from using the wrong word too.

So, you would like me to break the rules of the forum by quoting something said by another poster incorrectly?

You really need to get this indoctrination, ( that's what the religious do to as many young children they think they can get away with), ...

You need to understand that what the religious do is no different to what everyone does, ippy.  I realise that you think that using a big word like 'indoctrination' makes you sound big, but there is no more indoctrination by religious peole than there is by any parent.

If the poster quotes the word brainwashing shouldn't you be addressing brainwashing ie Korea etc, or do you mean that you misunderstood that post.

Which school is it that tries to introduce atheism even A C Graylings school doesn't promote atheism.

Schools are allowed by the law to discriminate when selecting employees.

What's this ethos mentioned in connection with schooling all about it's frequently referred to by various religionists?

The majority of schools that have religious connections are also the ones that have the younger children?

The religious wouldn't dream of swaying the vulnerable young school children into the direction of their particular beliefs, no they wouldn't have done that or keep right on doing it would they?

Over to you Hope in your narrow little made up dream world.

ippy

 

[BashfulAnthony]

indoctrination, ( that's what the religious do to as many young children they think they can get away with)

Really? And in the little drama which is going on in your head, do they have little meetings with calculators and flip-charts trying to work out how many they think they can get away with?

Have you spoken to a doctor about these conspiracy theories?

Anything like indoctrination works on percentages. It's one thing attempting to indoctrinate people/children.

Ippy

Don't you realise that you are doing, over a period of years, what you are accusing the religious of doing?      No, you don't;  I was silly suggesting you might.

[ippy]

indoctrination, ( that's what the religious do to as many young children they think they can get away with)

Really? And in the little drama which is going on in your head, do they have little meetings with calculators and flip-charts trying to work out how many they think they can get away with?

Have you spoken to a doctor about these conspiracy theories?

Anything like indoctrination works on percentages. It's one thing attempting to indoctrinate people/children.

Ippy

Don't you realise that you are doing, over a period of years, what you are accusing the religious of doing?      No, you don't;  I was silly suggesting you might.

Have you told all of those atheists running all of these atheist schools about this B A?

No?

ippy

[trippymonkey]

I've always been of the opinion that it's EXTREMELY rare there's only ONE solution-answer to any question. 

[Sassy]

Fags, Homosexuals, same sex marriage.

Apart from shellfish and cloven hooves, what else does Jesus hate?

Jesus doesn't hate people...
God doesn't hate people.  God hates sin not the sinner...

And you know that for a FACT, do you?

Elementary... if God hated the sinner he would not have sent his Son to die to save them, whilst still sinners, would he?
Don't have to be a rocket scientist to work that out...

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out that the deity should have died itself if humans really needed 'saving', as human nature was its creation, rather than get a young unmarried girl pregnant, in order that his 'son' would die a gruesome death! Get real, Sass!

God cannot die, he is the true immortal...

As for the rest... your ignorance be it deliberate or otherwise is clearly showing...

[Sassy]

For the record... was it only Christian men who were soldiers and gave their lives in the war....

Sometimes people make the most unreasoned comments ever...