Pedophiles

[Bubbles]

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[Hope]

This is by no means new, Rose.  Psychologists have been suggesting this for 20 or 30 years.

[Aruntraveller]

I don't see it is necessarily that concerning. Note I do not know enough about this area to know whether or not paedophilia(pedant head: note spelling) qualifies as a sexual orientation.

However if it does - it still does not in anyway mean that any change in the rights they have in this respect are coming their way. You still have the issues of consent and harm to deal with.

These issues alone means that paedophilia will remain a criminal activity.

[Nearly Sane]

Why is it concerning?

[Rhiannon]

I don't think anyone considers that paedophilia can be 'cured'. But I think the days are long gone when the idiotic liberal left (and no doubt pervy right somewhere) argued for paedophile rights. We now gave very strong ideas on what informed consent is and are clear that children cannot give it. End of story. There's nothing in that article to suggest that anyone is recommending a campaign for paedophile rights.

What it does show though is that the current ideas around sentence tariffs and rehabilitation aren't going to be effective.

[Aruntraveller]

Anyway - that Pat Dollard (now that I have accessed the site) is clearly using the issue to take a pop at recent liberalisation of laws for homosexuals.

I would file it under ignore.

[wigginhall]

Yes, bigots still use a nasty comparison between gays and paedophiles.   Shows how desperate and full of hate they are, really.

There was a period in the 70s/80s when paedophiles were given psychiatric treatment, and could avoid prison.  However, this was abandoned later, partly because treatment often didn't work, and also I think some were able to fake it, and then go back to offending.

[Hope]

I don't see it is necessarily that concerning. Note I do not know enough about this area to know whether or not paedophilia(pedant head: note spelling) qualifies as a sexual orientation.

Pedant head: the pedophile' spelling is perfectly legit. in American/Canadian English - whence this report came.

However if it does - it still does not in anyway mean that any change in the rights they have in this respect are coming their way. You still have the issues of consent and harm to deal with.

These issues alone means that paedophilia will remain a criminal activity.

It's perhaps worth remembering that the age of consent is nothing more than a social construct.  At present, it bears very little relation to either an age of being able to make decisions, or to commonly-held views of a child's stages of maturity.  Since I was born, it has slowly been reduced from 25 to 16.

[floo]

In the 80s I was shocked when a member of the 'paedophile information exchange' was given airtime on BBC radio. The pervert was pedalling his very sick agenda, saying that adults and children had a right to have sex with each other! Not long after that they became a banned organisation, what took them so long to ban it?

Paedophilia is not a sexual orientation like hetero/homo/sexuality, which are normal. It is a very sick perversion and should always be treated as such.

[Nearly Sane]

I don't see it is necessarily that concerning. Note I do not know enough about this area to know whether or not paedophilia(pedant head: note spelling) qualifies as a sexual orientation.

Pedant head: the pedophile' spelling is perfectly legit. in American/Canadian English - whence this report came.

However if it does - it still does not in anyway mean that any change in the rights they have in this respect are coming their way. You still have the issues of consent and harm to deal with.

These issues alone means that paedophilia will remain a criminal activity.

It's perhaps worth remembering that the age of consent is nothing more than a social construct.  At present, it bears very little relation to either an age of being able to make decisions, or to commonly-held views of a child's stages of maturity.  Since I was born, it has slowly been reduced from 25 to 16.

25? When and where?

[Sriram]

http://us.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/06/26/handsome-gorilla-hit-with-the-ladies-ripley-pkg.cnn

Maybe bestiality is next! 

[Leonard James]

Sexual deviation is just the result of genetic differences, which themselves are its raison d'etre.

It is up to us to control those which we consider antisocial.

[Aruntraveller]

I don't see it is necessarily that concerning. Note I do not know enough about this area to know whether or not paedophilia(pedant head: note spelling) qualifies as a sexual orientation.

Pedant head: the pedophile' spelling is perfectly legit. in American/Canadian English - whence this report came.

However if it does - it still does not in anyway mean that any change in the rights they have in this respect are coming their way. You still have the issues of consent and harm to deal with.

These issues alone means that paedophilia will remain a criminal activity.

It's perhaps worth remembering that the age of consent is nothing more than a social construct.  At present, it bears very little relation to either an age of being able to make decisions, or to commonly-held views of a child's stages of maturity.  Since I was born, it has slowly been reduced from 25 to 16.

You really are a humourless prig aren't you?

Anyway - of course the age of consent is a social construct. That doesn't mean that it is going to be changed to allow paedophiles to molest children. Any suggestion that it is, or could happen is pathetic scaremongering of the very worst kind.

[Nearly Sane]

I don't see it is necessarily that concerning. Note I do not know enough about this area to know whether or not paedophilia(pedant head: note spelling) qualifies as a sexual orientation.

Pedant head: the pedophile' spelling is perfectly legit. in American/Canadian English - whence this report came.

However if it does - it still does not in anyway mean that any change in the rights they have in this respect are coming their way. You still have the issues of consent and harm to deal with.

These issues alone means that paedophilia will remain a criminal activity.

It's perhaps worth remembering that the age of consent is nothing more than a social construct.  At present, it bears very little relation to either an age of being able to make decisions, or to commonly-held views of a child's stages of maturity.  Since I was born, it has slowly been reduced from 25 to 16.

25? When and where?

 I think Libya was 21

was Hope in Libya? To have experienced this slow reduction? Interested in how we classify this as it isn't true of any part of the UK

[Nearly Sane]

Nor indeed of any place I am aware of, so Hope where have you been to have this slow reduction from 25 to 16?

[floo]

In the UK the age of consent has never been 25, it has been 16 for as long as I can remember and I am older than Hope!

[Shaker]

Off the top of my head it's been 16 since the Labouchere Amendment, which I think was 1880- or 1890-something.

ETA: It was 1885 - and that's when it was raised (from 13), not lowered. So I guess Hopalong is thinking of somewhere else, because the UK it ain't.

[floo]

I think some confuse the age of consent and the age of majority, which used to be 21 until the early 70s, I think.

[Shaker]

Perhaps.

[Leonard James]

Whilst I see the necessity for a norm, it is quite ridiculous to assume that every child develops at the same rate.

Some kids are totally mature and responsible at 14 and others not capable of making sensible decisions until they are much older.

[OH MY WORLD!]

Rose,
I believe that a homosexual can be a paedo. You mention lack of research. Yes of course, how politically incorrect it would be to research homosexual paedos. Look, a fella that is horny for young males and not young females is a homosexual paedo. Recognizing that homosexuals have been persecuted for ever, it is no excuse to deny that sickos can be among them. Are they human? I think so, so yes, lets not cover up the reality that some may want to harm boys. I mean is a heterosexual that goes after young girls not heterosexual? Silly isn't it? No problem with claiming a peado is heterosexual. Ruffles no feathers, like apple sauce on a pork chop.

[Leonard James]

Whilst I see the necessity for a norm, it is quite ridiculous to assume that every child develops at the same rate.

Some kids are totally mature and responsible at 14 and others not capable of making sensible decisions until they are much older.

Yes, I think the law is set to protect the childish ( childlike ?) ones for longer

Indeed, and when a case is brought up that should always be taken into consideration. The law is there for the guidance of wise judges and the strict obedience of foolish ones. Unfortunately there is no shortage of the latter.

[floo]

Both heterosexuals and homosexuals can be paedophiles. Sadly some bigots seem to focus exclusively on homosexuals where paedophilia is concerned!

[Gonnagle]

Dear Rose,

So a true pedophile ( what ever that is ) cannot change their sexual orientation.

So what do we do, lock them all up and throw away the key, if one child is harmed, is that one child too many, should they all be tagged.

Gonnagle.

[floo]

Dear Rose,

So a true pedophile ( what ever that is ) cannot change their sexual orientation.

So what do we do, lock them all up and throw away the key, if one child is harmed, is that one child too many, should they all be tagged.

Gonnagle.

I agree and brand them too!