Just supposing...........

[trippymonkey]

EVASION ALERT !!!!! EVASION ALERT !!!!!

[Aruntraveller]

You are really show  ignorance if you cannot fathom that out for yourself even without reading the bible....

Are you in denial about what is written about your God in the Bible.

As a punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers and friends.

Maybe Floo has read more of the book than you give her credit for.

[floo]

You are really show  ignorance if you cannot fathom that out for yourself even without reading the bible....

Are you in denial about what is written about your God in the Bible.

As a punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers and friends.

Maybe Floo has read more of the book than you give her credit for.

It is my frequent reading of that book which makes me ask the question, 'WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT THE DEITY', to which there is never an answer!

[Hope]

It is my frequent reading of that book which makes me ask the question, 'WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT THE DEITY', to which there is never an answer! 

Perhaps you never read those answers.  But hang on, you responded to them with such inconsequential responses as to show that you have no idea of what you wrote.

[floo]

It is my frequent reading of that book which makes me ask the question, 'WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT THE DEITY', to which there is never an answer! 

Perhaps you never read those answers.  But hang on, you responded to them with such inconsequential responses as to show that you have no idea of what you wrote.

Well go on enlighten me as to what is good about a deity who supposedly floods the planet, gets a young girl pregnant so her son can die a terrible death?  Just to name two of its crimes.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

It is my frequent reading of that book which makes me ask the question, 'WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT THE DEITY', to which there is never an answer! 

Perhaps you never read those answers.  But hang on, you responded to them with such inconsequential responses as to show that you have no idea of what you wrote.

Well go on enlighten me as to what is good about a deity who supposedly floods the planet, gets a young girl pregnant so her son can die a terrible death?  Just to name two of its crimes.

Before  people like Pinker believed that wars will inevitably get less worse and the sum of world happiness will eventually progressively get greater(i.e. sentimental old bollocks) people were raising and having children in the surefire knowledge that life would almost inevitably be bad to them . In fact I think you'll find that Christianity eventually proved a popular alternative to bread, circuses, violent entertainment and a lack of charity.

Pinker is wrong to say decent values came in with the antitheist enlightenment.

[Shaker]

Before  people like Pinker believed that wars will inevitably get less worse and the sum of world happiness will eventually progressively get greater(i.e. sentimental old bollocks) people were raising and having children in the surefire knowledge that life would almost inevitably be bad to them .

That was big of them, wasn't it?

In fact I think you'll find that Christianity eventually proved a popular alternative to bread, circuses, violent entertainment and a lack of charity.

Bloody Nora. Think how shit things must be when Christianity is supposed to be the alternative to it 

Pinker is wrong to say decent values came in with the antitheist enlightenment.

Quite but accidentally wrong for a change. Decent values long predate religion.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Before  people like Pinker believed that wars will inevitably get less worse and the sum of world happiness will eventually progressively get greater(i.e. sentimental old bollocks) people were raising and having children in the surefire knowledge that life would almost inevitably be bad to them .

That was big of them, wasn't it?

In fact I think you'll find that Christianity eventually proved a popular alternative to bread, circuses, violent entertainment and a lack of charity.

yes but think about it Shaker...Bread and circuses, violent entertainment and a lack of charity......all coming back into fashion
(well not literally bread and circus but the metaphorical describes a decadent culture sense)

[jeremyp]

It's amazing how fundamentalist atheists can be when it suits them. They cannot conceive of the Bible not being true about God - in their 'minds', if God exists then everything in the Bible must be true.

If you are talking about my post, I'm afraid you are misrepresenting it in a pretty bad but utterly predictable (for a Christian on this board) way.  I said "God is depicted", I never claimed that the given depiction is the truth.  Even Floo usually qualifies her pronouncements by talking about the "God of the Bible".

It is undeniable that there is a depiction of God in the Bible in which he kills all human and animal life on the planet except the ones in the Ark.  If you claim that this is not a true depiction of God, then fair enough but one has to wonder how he allowed such a libel to appear in his Holy Book.

[jeremyp]

It does point up Dan Barker's famous point, however, that so many - in fact most - humans are vastly, vastly, vastly morally better than God is depicted.

I guess Barker didn't notice the holocaust, or genocide in Rwanda, Idi Amin, or Da'ish, or Auschwitz-Birkenau, or Srebrenica, Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan, thousands of murderers, rapists, crooks and cheats, etc, etc, etc.  Apparently, there have only been 12 years in recorded history when there has not been at least one war somewhere on the planet!!

God is depicted to have wiped out almost everybody at one point.

Yes, that's the God of the OT, which I reject as the true depiction of God, as I have explained many times now.

I know you reject it but that doesn't mean the depiction doesn't exist and the original point was about a depiction.

[jeremyp]

yes but think about it Shaker...Bread and circuses, violent entertainment and a lack of charity......all coming back into fashion
(well not literally bread and circus but the metaphorical describes a decadent culture sense)

Yes it's so much worse than the good old Christian days where you could go and watch the bad Christians being hung drawn and quartered by the good Christians.  Those were the days. 

[Shaker]

What country?
ETA: Oh, I see Vlad (or 'Chuck' as he is this week) has deleted a post in which he asserted that to go to see a proper disembowelling these days you have to go to an atheist country (whatever that is?).

That'll remind me to directly quote every single last post you ever make again, Vlad, you slimy, sleazy, dishonest, backtracking little weirdo, you 

[Walt Zingmatilder]

What country?
ETA: Oh, I see Vlad (or 'Chuck' as he is this week) has deleted a post in which he asserted that to go to see a proper disembowelling these days you have to go to an atheist country (whatever that is?).

That'll remind me to directly quote every single last post you ever make again, Vlad, you slimy, sleazy, dishonest, backtracking little weirdo, you 

'ere, less of the ''weirdo'', thank you.

[Shaker]

Yes, I couldn't agree more.

[cyberman]

Decent values long predate religion.

When did religion start?

[Hope]

It is undeniable that there is a depiction of God in the Bible in which he kills all human and animal life on the planet except the ones in the Ark.  If you claim that this is not a true depiction of God, then fair enough but one has to wonder how he allowed such a libel to appear in his Holy Book.

Well, one has to ask why God allowed a lot of non-literal ideas into his word; stuff like parables and poetry.

[Shaker]

It is undeniable that there is a depiction of God in the Bible in which he kills all human and animal life on the planet except the ones in the Ark.  If you claim that this is not a true depiction of God, then fair enough but one has to wonder how he allowed such a libel to appear in his Holy Book.

Well, one has to ask why God allowed a lot of non-literal ideas into his word; stuff like parables and poetry.

There's a vastly simpler (and rational) explanation for that.

[floo]

It is undeniable that there is a depiction of God in the Bible in which he kills all human and animal life on the planet except the ones in the Ark.  If you claim that this is not a true depiction of God, then fair enough but one has to wonder how he allowed such a libel to appear in his Holy Book.

Well, one has to ask why God allowed a lot of non-literal ideas into his word; stuff like parables and poetry.

Because a deity had nothing to do with the writing of it! EASY PEASY!

[Hope]

There's a vastly simpler (and rational) explanation for that.

Such as?

[Hope]

Because a deity had nothing to do with the writing of it! EASY PEASY!

Evidence for that claim, Floo?

[Shaker]

There's a vastly simpler (and rational) explanation for that.

Such as?

Such as the fact that the document(s) concerned were simply written by humans (and by our standards highly ignorant and superstitious ones at that).

[floo]

Because a deity had nothing to do with the writing of it! EASY PEASY!

Evidence for that claim, Floo?

Where is your evidence a deity had anything to do with its production. In fact as much of it is such a disaster, any deity would obviously be suffering from a serious mental illness if written at its instigation!

[BashfulAnthony]

There's a vastly simpler (and rational) explanation for that.

Such as?

Such as the fact that the document(s) concerned were simply written by humans and by our standards highly ignorant

You clearly don't read all the posts on here, to begin with!

[Shaker]

True. You know what you're going to get from a great many of the religionist ones so I do skim over those, I admit

[Walt Zingmatilder]

True. You know what you're going to get from a great many of the religionist ones so I do skim over those, I admit

Great, first Goddodging now Godskimming.