Just supposing...........

[trippymonkey]

MMM Ironic question !?!?!?

[floo]

No that is not how the deity works, if it exists at all it enjoys playing silly games  with humans. Why can't it make its existence clear to all so no one could possibly disbelieve in it, anymore than one could disbelieve the sun exists, for instance?

Because that would make robots of us, Floo, and God made us with freewill.  Which would you prefer?

A robot is preferable to anything 'created' by that nasty deity!

[ippy]

So I take it  B A you don't know which one you're most likely to bump into the next time you go to Tescos then?

Well, no-one's going to 'bump into God' because that's not how the mechanics of God works, and no-one's going to 'bump into Elvis' because he's dead.  What's you next stupid question, ippy?

Yes back to your old tricks Hope, quoting out of context, you must be loosing some brownie points for doing that again and yet again.

Does that mean doing extra time in purgatory or is it only Catholics that go there ludicrous whatever belief; ooh no we don't do brownie points, we're methodists or baptists, ludicrous whatever the title. 

ippy

How many do you lose for repeating the same stuff, ad nauseam?

You're the expert you tell me, as far as I know I'm not operating under the religio carrot and stick rules.

ippy

[BashfulAnthony]

So I take it  B A you don't know which one you're most likely to bump into the next time you go to Tescos then?

Well, no-one's going to 'bump into God' because that's not how the mechanics of God works, and no-one's going to 'bump into Elvis' because he's dead.  What's you next stupid question, ippy?

Yes back to your old tricks Hope, quoting out of context, you must be loosing some brownie points for doing that again and yet again.

Does that mean doing extra time in purgatory or is it only Catholics that go there ludicrous whatever belief; ooh no we don't do brownie points, we're methodists or baptists, ludicrous whatever the title. 

ippy

How many do you lose for repeating the same stuff, ad nauseam?

You're the expert you tell me, as far as I know I'm not operating under the religio carrot and stick rules.

ippy

I haven't a clue what that means!

[ippy]

So I take it  B A you don't know which one you're most likely to bump into the next time you go to Tescos then?

Well, no-one's going to 'bump into God' because that's not how the mechanics of God works, and no-one's going to 'bump into Elvis' because he's dead.  What's you next stupid question, ippy?

Yes back to your old tricks Hope, quoting out of context, you must be loosing some brownie points for doing that again and yet again.

Does that mean doing extra time in purgatory or is it only Catholics that go there ludicrous whatever belief; ooh no we don't do brownie points, we're methodists or baptists, ludicrous whatever the title. 

ippy

How many do you lose for repeating the same stuff, ad nauseam?

You're the expert you tell me, as far as I know I'm not operating under the religio carrot and stick rules.

ippy

I haven't a clue what that means!

Oh dear, brownie points for being good and setting number 8 if you're not, (Oven setting).

ippy

[BashfulAnthony]

So I take it  B A you don't know which one you're most likely to bump into the next time you go to Tescos then?

Well, no-one's going to 'bump into God' because that's not how the mechanics of God works, and no-one's going to 'bump into Elvis' because he's dead.  What's you next stupid question, ippy?

Yes back to your old tricks Hope, quoting out of context, you must be loosing some brownie points for doing that again and yet again.

Does that mean doing extra time in purgatory or is it only Catholics that go there ludicrous whatever belief; ooh no we don't do brownie points, we're methodists or baptists, ludicrous whatever the title. 

ippy

How many do you lose for repeating the same stuff, ad nauseam?

You're the expert you tell me, as far as I know I'm not operating under the religio carrot and stick rules.

ippy

I haven't a clue what that means!

Oh dear, brownie points for being good and setting number 8 if you're not, (Oven setting).

ippy

I don't understand that, either!

[ippy]

So I take it  B A you don't know which one you're most likely to bump into the next time you go to Tescos then?

Well, no-one's going to 'bump into God' because that's not how the mechanics of God works, and no-one's going to 'bump into Elvis' because he's dead.  What's you next stupid question, ippy?

Yes back to your old tricks Hope, quoting out of context, you must be loosing some brownie points for doing that again and yet again.

Does that mean doing extra time in purgatory or is it only Catholics that go there ludicrous whatever belief; ooh no we don't do brownie points, we're methodists or baptists, ludicrous whatever the title. 

ippy

How many do you lose for repeating the same stuff, ad nauseam?

You're the expert you tell me, as far as I know I'm not operating under the religio carrot and stick rules.

ippy

I haven't a clue what that means!

Oh dear, brownie points for being good and setting number 8 if you're not, (Oven setting).

ippy

I don't understand that, either!

Sorry B A can't be drawing pictures.

ippy

[BashfulAnthony]

So I take it  B A you don't know which one you're most likely to bump into the next time you go to Tescos then?

Well, no-one's going to 'bump into God' because that's not how the mechanics of God works, and no-one's going to 'bump into Elvis' because he's dead.  What's you next stupid question, ippy?

Yes back to your old tricks Hope, quoting out of context, you must be loosing some brownie points for doing that again and yet again.

Does that mean doing extra time in purgatory or is it only Catholics that go there ludicrous whatever belief; ooh no we don't do brownie points, we're methodists or baptists, ludicrous whatever the title. 

ippy

How many do you lose for repeating the same stuff, ad nauseam?

You're the expert you tell me, as far as I know I'm not operating under the religio carrot and stick rules.

ippy

I haven't a clue what that means!

Oh dear, brownie points for being good and setting number 8 if you're not, (Oven setting).

ippy

I don't understand that, either!

Sorry B A can't be drawing pictures.

ippy

Why not?  Run out of crayons again?   

[Hope]

Sorry B A can't be drawing pictures.

ippy

Perhaps more importantly, ippy, you seem to be happy to take popular understandings of the Bible as read, rather than actually studying the Bible to see if those understandings actually stand up to scrutiny.

[floo]

Sorry B A can't be drawing pictures.

ippy

Perhaps more importantly, ippy, you seem to be happy to take popular understandings of the Bible as read, rather than actually studying the Bible to see if those understandings actually stand up to scrutiny.

Having read that book so many times I have lost count, the less than credible bits, like the resurrection, don't stand up to scrutiny.

[cyberman]

Purgatory is no longer a Catholic dogma

it is, actually

[cyberman]

So I take it  B A you don't know which one you're most likely to bump into the next time you go to Tescos then?

Well, no-one's going to 'bump into God' because that's not how the mechanics of God works, and no-one's going to 'bump into Elvis' because he's dead.  What's you next stupid question, ippy?

Yes back to your old tricks Hope, quoting out of context, you must be loosing some brownie points for doing that again and yet again.

Does that mean doing extra time in purgatory or is it only Catholics that go there ludicrous whatever belief; ooh no we don't do brownie points, we're methodists or baptists, ludicrous whatever the title. 

ippy

How many do you lose for repeating the same stuff, ad nauseam?

You're the expert you tell me, as far as I know I'm not operating under the religio carrot and stick rules.

ippy

I haven't a clue what that means!

Oh dear, brownie points for being good and setting number 8 if you're not, (Oven setting).

ippy

I don't understand that, either!

Sorry B A can't be drawing pictures.

ippy

No, but you could just say "hell", instead of "setting number 8", couldn't you?

[Shaker]

Purgatory is no longer a Catholic dogma

it is, actually

How remarkably stupid.

[cyberman]

Purgatory is no longer a Catholic dogma

it is, actually

How remarkably stupid.

Without getting bogged down in the broader issues of why you think theism in general is stupid, why d you that in particular is stupid?

[Shaker]

I can only ascribe it to belonging to that great class of things of which if you have to ask in the first place, you're unlikely to know.

[cyberman]

I can only ascribe it to belonging to that great class of things of which if you have to ask in the first place, you're unlikely to know.

Can't think of an answer then - got it.

Try thinking these things through before blurting out, next time!

[Shaker]

I can only ascribe it to belonging to that great class of things of which if you have to ask in the first place, you're unlikely to know.

Can't think of an answer then - got it.

Try thinking these things through before blurting out, next time!

Oh yes, plenty of answers, no trouble there; but as I'm a staunch anti-theist as well as agnostic atheist I assumed that you'd have been more than familiar with all of them quite well enough from NGLReturns.

[cyberman]

I can only ascribe it to belonging to that great class of things of which if you have to ask in the first place, you're unlikely to know.

Can't think of an answer then - got it.

Try thinking these things through before blurting out, next time!

Oh yes, plenty of answers, no trouble there; but as I'm a staunch anti-theist as well as agnostic atheist I assumed that you'd have been more than familiar with all of them quite well enough from NGLReturns.

As I said, I didn't want to go over all your reasons for being an atheist and for thinking theism in general is stupid. I just wondered why you thought that particular doctrine was particularly stupid, that's all. If you can't think of a reason then don't worry about it.

[Nearly Sane]

As a long-term ex Catholic I may have missed it but I thought the bizarre idea that is purgatory was still dogma.

[cyberman]

As a long-term ex Catholic I may have missed it but I thought the bizarre idea that is purgatory was still dogma.

It is

[ippy]

Sorry B A can't be drawing pictures.

ippy

Perhaps more importantly, ippy, you seem to be happy to take popular understandings of the Bible as read, rather than actually studying the Bible to see if those understandings actually stand up to scrutiny.

I don't study any of the Harry Potter books either, I take the popular understandings them and just like your book there's magic in them that doesn't stand up to scrutiny, where all it has to offer is its place in  history other than that your bible isn't really that important to me to be worth spending any of my time making a study of it.

Why not go for philosophy it has all of the moral and ethical questioning content needed, and more, without the need to spend time talking to yourself or generally being away with the fairies.

ippy 

[ippy]

So I take it  B A you don't know which one you're most likely to bump into the next time you go to Tescos then?

Well, no-one's going to 'bump into God' because that's not how the mechanics of God works, and no-one's going to 'bump into Elvis' because he's dead.  What's you next stupid question, ippy?

Yes back to your old tricks Hope, quoting out of context, you must be loosing some brownie points for doing that again and yet again.

Does that mean doing extra time in purgatory or is it only Catholics that go there ludicrous whatever belief; ooh no we don't do brownie points, we're methodists or baptists, ludicrous whatever the title. 

ippy

How many do you lose for repeating the same stuff, ad nauseam?

You're the expert you tell me, as far as I know I'm not operating under the religio carrot and stick rules.

ippy

I haven't a clue what that means!

Oh dear, brownie points for being good and setting number 8 if you're not, (Oven setting).

ippy

I don't understand that, either!

Sorry B A can't be drawing pictures.

ippy

No, but you could just say "hell", instead of "setting number 8", couldn't you?

Well yes I could have but setting number 8 is equally as silly as the idea of a hell.

ippy

[BashfulAnthony]

Sorry B A can't be drawing pictures.

ippy

Perhaps more importantly, ippy, you seem to be happy to take popular understandings of the Bible as read, rather than actually studying the Bible to see if those understandings actually stand up to scrutiny.

Having read that book so many times I have lost count, the less than credible bits, like the resurrection, don't stand up to scrutiny.

Can you think of anything new to say?

[BashfulAnthony]

So I take it  B A you don't know which one you're most likely to bump into the next time you go to Tescos then?

Well, no-one's going to 'bump into God' because that's not how the mechanics of God works, and no-one's going to 'bump into Elvis' because he's dead.  What's you next stupid question, ippy?

Yes back to your old tricks Hope, quoting out of context, you must be loosing some brownie points for doing that again and yet again.

Does that mean doing extra time in purgatory or is it only Catholics that go there ludicrous whatever belief; ooh no we don't do brownie points, we're methodists or baptists, ludicrous whatever the title. 

ippy

How many do you lose for repeating the same stuff, ad nauseam?

You're the expert you tell me, as far as I know I'm not operating under the religio carrot and stick rules.

ippy

I haven't a clue what that means!

Oh dear, brownie points for being good and setting number 8 if you're not, (Oven setting).

ippy

I don't understand that, either!

Sorry B A can't be drawing pictures.

ippy

No, but you could just say "hell", instead of "setting number 8", couldn't you?

Well yes I could have but setting number 8 is equally as silly as the idea of a hell.

ippy

I don't believe in Hell, either.  I;m disappointed you haven't noticed that after I;ve made my position clear for a long time now.. You must pay more attention!

[trippymonkey]

BA
What kind of Hell don't you believe in?
Surely Jesus did ??