Praying at work!

[Owlswing]

The only prayer I ever uttered at work was for the Goddess to let me still have a job on the morning of the next day!

[ProfessorDavey]

That's good Davey. So you will agree that a person who decides God does not exist, is not entering a more adult life?

Blimey you and Hope really are a bit touchy aren't you.

When did I ever say that - I didn't.

All I told you was about my experience. Do I think others who come to recognise they don't believe in god feel more adult as a consequence. Well quite possibly, it doesn't seem unreasonable. And I imagine there are others who didn't feel like that too.

But I can't say for sure because I am not them and can't know their experiences, just as they can't know my experience. So you'll have to ask them, not me.

[Leonard James]

Praying at work.


Driving instructors do it all the time!

 

Thank you mate for a much needed laugh!

[Hope]

Sort of reminds me of some of these Bible studies and prayer meetings that have sprung up on public transport and Christians from different places along the route meet up and discuss the Bible on their way to work.

[Owlswing]

Sort of reminds me of some of these Bible studies and prayer meetings that have sprung up on public transport and Christians from different places along the route meet up and discuss the Bible on their way to work.

It would be interesting to find out the reactions of their fellow-travellers to these meetings.

[Hope]

Sort of reminds me of some of these Bible studies and prayer meetings that have sprung up on public transport and Christians from different places along the route meet up and discuss the Bible on their way to work.

It would be interesting to find out the reactions of their fellow-travellers to these meetings.

Some ignore them, some join in, apparently.  Some of the latter, whisper it quietly, choose to become Christians.

[Owlswing]

Sort of reminds me of some of these Bible studies and prayer meetings that have sprung up on public transport and Christians from different places along the route meet up and discuss the Bible on their way to work.

It would be interesting to find out the reactions of their fellow-travellers to these meetings.

Some ignore them, some join in, apparently.  Some of the latter, whisper it quietly, choose to become Christians.

I said "the reactions of their fellow-travellers" not your idea of what those reactions might be.  The inclusion of the word "apparently" in your post indicates to me that your comments are hearsay and conjecture not fact.

[Hope]

I said "the reactions of their fellow-travellers" not your idea of what those reactions might be.  The inclusion of the word "apparently" in your post indicates to me that your comments are hearsay and conjecture not fact.

Sorry to disappoint you, but all I did was summarise and paraphrase a number of reports in magazines like Christianity Today.  The fact is that some ignore the gatherings, and some join in.  A further fact is that some of the latter have chosen to start attending church, and some have become Christians.  You may not like this, but unfortunately facts don't lie.

[BeRational]

I said "the reactions of their fellow-travellers" not your idea of what those reactions might be.  The inclusion of the word "apparently" in your post indicates to me that your comments are hearsay and conjecture not fact.

Sorry to disappoint you, but all I did was summarise and paraphrase a number of reports in magazines like Christianity Today.  The fact is that some ignore the gatherings, and some join in.  A further fact is that some of the latter have chosen to start attending church, and some have become Christians.  You may not like this, but unfortunately facts don't lie.

I bet its not many, as the attendances are falling. As the stats by the prof shows, people fall away far more than take up religion.

[Hope]

I bet its not many, as the attendances are falling. As the stats by the prof shows, people fall away far more than take up religion.

Not sure whether the attendance at these get-togethers on public transport are falling, growing or staying static.

[Owlswing]

I said "the reactions of their fellow-travellers" not your idea of what those reactions might be.  The inclusion of the word "apparently" in your post indicates to me that your comments are hearsay and conjecture not fact.

Sorry to disappoint you, but all I did was summarise and paraphrase a number of reports in magazines like Christianity Today.  The fact is that some ignore the gatherings, and some join in.  A further fact is that some of the latter have chosen to start attending church, and some have become Christians.  You may not like this, but unfortunately facts don't lie.

No, they do not, but incomplete or biased reporting does - you cite the source iof your information as magazines like Christianity Today - in this discussion they do not come much more baised than this! To paraphrase Mandy Rice-Davies - they would say that wouldn't they!

[ProfessorDavey]

Sort of reminds me of some of these Bible studies and prayer meetings that have sprung up on public transport and Christians from different places along the route meet up and discuss the Bible on their way to work.

Really!?!

I've been commuting on public transport on my way to work for most of the last 20 years and I have never, even seen a group of commuters engaged in a prayer meeting or a bible study group.

I've seen all sorts of goings on, from the common-place to the most bizarre, but never, ever this.

[ProfessorDavey]

Sort of reminds me of some of these Bible studies and prayer meetings that have sprung up on public transport and Christians from different places along the route meet up and discuss the Bible on their way to work.

Just to be clear I've seen individual commuters reading the bible and other religious texts and study documents - that's not uncommon.

What I have never seen is a group of commutes having a prayer meeting or bible study session as a group.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I said "the reactions of their fellow-travellers" not your idea of what those reactions might be.  The inclusion of the word "apparently" in your post indicates to me that your comments are hearsay and conjecture not fact.

Sorry to disappoint you, but all I did was summarise and paraphrase a number of reports in magazines like Christianity Today.  The fact is that some ignore the gatherings, and some join in.  A further fact is that some of the latter have chosen to start attending church, and some have become Christians.  You may not like this, but unfortunately facts don't lie.

I bet its not many, as the attendances are falling. As the stats by the prof shows, people fall away far more than take up religion.

Stats are falling for joining virtually anything and I think you're wrong to equate ''couldn't give a shit'' with an intellectual position.

[Shaker]

'Couldn't give a shit' however beautifully exemplifies one of those things (besides evidentialism, critical thinking, etc.) which is kryptonite to religion and against which no religion can defend itself - sheer apathy

[Walt Zingmatilder]

'Couldn't give a shit' however beautifully exemplifies one of those things (besides evidentialism, critical thinking, etc.) which is kryptonite to religion and against which no religion can defend itself - sheer apathy

Yeah, but it's rife in society and not the sort of thing we should be encouraging, When people stop caring they've given up a wee part of their humanity.

[Shaker]

'Couldn't give a shit' however beautifully exemplifies one of those things (besides evidentialism, critical thinking, etc.) which is kryptonite to religion and against which no religion can defend itself - sheer apathy

Yeah, but it's rife in society and not the sort of thing we should be encouraging, When people stop caring they've given up a wee part of their humanity.

Not quite sure how you go about encouraging people not to care sbout something as that sounds like a contradiction in terms to me, but with regard to religion things in society are going the right way anyway

[Walt Zingmatilder]

'Couldn't give a shit' however beautifully exemplifies one of those things (besides evidentialism, critical thinking, etc.) which is kryptonite to religion and against which no religion can defend itself - sheer apathy

Yeah, but it's rife in society and not the sort of thing we should be encouraging, When people stop caring they've given up a wee part of their humanity.

Not quite sure how you go about encouraging people not to care sbout something as that sounds like a contradiction in terms to me, but with regard to religion things in society are going the right way anyway

But it begs the question.....what happens when apathy goes out of fashion?

[Shaker]

You get all sorts of nutty shit happening, usually.

[BashfulAnthony]

You get all sorts of nutty shit happening, usually.

We already do  -  it's called, "atheism."   

[Shaker]

You get all sorts of nutty shit happening, usually.

We already do  -  it's called, "atheism."   

No ... when it comes to nutty shit you're thinking of the other one, with one less letter at the beginning. Atheism is the absence of that variety of nutty shit

[BashfulAnthony]

You get all sorts of nutty shit happening, usually.

We already do  -  it's called, "atheism."   

No ... when it comes to nutty shit you're thinking of the other one, with one less letter at the beginning. Atheism is the absence of that variety of nutty shit

I think not -  and you are a perfect example of said atheist ***** ****.

[Shaker]

I think not

Yeah, we know

[trippymonkey]

Well, we now see NO sense of apathy in BA towards others NOT like him !!!!! 

[BashfulAnthony]

I think not

Yeah, we know

Well, you would, being an expert!!

By the way, who's we?