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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #50 on: July 09, 2015, 08:25:13 AM »
You get all sorts of nutty shit happening, usually.

We already do  -  it's called, "atheism."   :)
No ... when it comes to nutty shit you're thinking of the other one, with one less letter at the beginning. Atheism is the absence of that variety of nutty shit ;)

I think not -  and you are a perfect example of said atheist ***** ****.

Do you think putting ****** **** disguises the fact that you are swearing. You foul mouthed theist. ;)
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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #51 on: July 09, 2015, 08:29:34 AM »
Well, we now see NO sense of apathy in BA towards others NOT like him !!!!!  ;)

Spot on! ;D

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #52 on: July 09, 2015, 10:54:51 AM »
The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #53 on: July 09, 2015, 10:59:52 AM »
You get all sorts of nutty shit happening, usually.

We already do  -  it's called, "atheism."   :)
No ... when it comes to nutty shit you're thinking of the other one, with one less letter at the beginning. Atheism is the absence of that variety of nutty shit ;)

I think not -  and you are a perfect example of said atheist ***** ****.

Do you think putting ****** **** disguises the fact that you are swearing. You foul mouthed theist. ;)

For some reason he asterisked the word nutty, which is taking prudery to a level even I've never seen before.
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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #54 on: July 09, 2015, 11:58:19 AM »
"Praying at work"!

Isn't praying anywhere a waste of time because unless someone, a real living person, can hear you, you're talking to yourself?
 
There's nothing complicated about it.

ippy

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #55 on: July 09, 2015, 01:16:39 PM »
"Praying at work"!

Isn't praying anywhere a waste of time because unless someone, a real living person, can hear you, you're talking to yourself?
 


ippy

Not always. I have a niece who, when very young, used to play with and converse with somebody that she insisted was there although we couldn't see her. She spent much of her childhood with this person, and was always happy in her company, so I suppose you can't say the time was wasted.

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #56 on: July 09, 2015, 01:26:51 PM »
Hi everyone,

Some people are beginning to pray at the workplace...in China too! They seem to be more devout than many traditional Christians in the West...!

Cheers.

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How does praying at the workplace make them more devout... Isn't the vicar praying in his work place in Church on a Sunday and through the week?

Christianity, isn't measured by where people pray. How many pray or what they pray for.

The simplest way of putting it, is that though a body of believers may pray together the reality is they pray in Spirit and Truth.
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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #57 on: July 09, 2015, 03:17:29 PM »
Sort of reminds me of some of these Bible studies and prayer meetings that have sprung up on public transport and Christians from different places along the route meet up and discuss the Bible on their way to work.
Really!?!

I've been commuting on public transport on my way to work for most of the last 20 years and I have never, even seen a group of commuters engaged in a prayer meeting or a bible study group.

I've seen all sorts of goings on, from the common-place to the most bizarre, but never, ever this.
Just to keep you guys updated.

Another morning - another public transport commute. And no Bible study or prayer meeting going on during my commute this morning - exactly the same as yesterday, and the day before ... and forever.

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #58 on: July 09, 2015, 06:42:38 PM »
"Praying at work"!

Isn't praying anywhere a waste of time because unless someone, a real living person, can hear you, you're talking to yourself?
 


ippy

Not always. I have a niece who, when very young, used to play with and converse with somebody that she insisted was there although we couldn't see her. She spent much of her childhood with this person, and was always happy in her company, so I suppose you can't say the time was wasted.


Isn't praying anywhere, in the majority of cases, a waste of time because unless someone, a real living person, can hear you, you're talking to yourself?

ippy

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #59 on: July 09, 2015, 08:45:48 PM »
ipster,
No, but all your posts are like looking at a bare wall and chatting with you is like being alone. Now where is that monkey on a rock? Oh well, I can always pick the lint out of my belly button or restring my guitar.

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #60 on: July 09, 2015, 08:56:27 PM »
ipster,
No, but all your posts are like looking at a bare wall and chatting with you is like being alone.
How glad I am I haven't heard that 43,234 times before.

Oh, wait ...
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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #61 on: July 10, 2015, 01:14:46 AM »
You get all sorts of nutty shit happening, usually.

We already do  -  it's called, "atheism."   :)
No ... when it comes to nutty shit you're thinking of the other one, with one less letter at the beginning. Atheism is the absence of that variety of nutty shit ;)

I think not -  and you are a perfect example of said atheist ***** ****.

Do you think putting ****** **** disguises the fact that you are swearing. You foul mouthed theist. ;)

I was quoting, you half-wit (M43, and others  -  check it!)  The words were those of one of your fellow foul mouths, and the way I made my point was to refer to the words concerned, without using them: accepted English usage.  Learn to read properly, or should I say, try to understand.  I know you are a simple person:  perhaps you should ask mummy for help!
« Last Edit: July 10, 2015, 01:47:02 AM by BashfulAnthony »
BA.

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life.

It is my commandment that you love one another."

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2015, 01:18:24 AM »
Well, we now see NO sense of apathy in BA towards others NOT like him !!!!!  ;)

 :D :D  I think you need to check the difference between "apathy," and "empathy!"  Unless you're trying to br clever  -  but that never works with you!
« Last Edit: July 10, 2015, 05:47:36 AM by BashfulAnthony »
BA.

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life.

It is my commandment that you love one another."

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2015, 05:40:46 AM »
ipster,
No, but all your posts are like looking at a bare wall and chatting with you is like being alone. Now where is that monkey on a rock? Oh well, I can always pick the lint out of my belly button or restring my guitar.

I believe the Canadian case where there is a tendency for over use of the chopper this can effect the eyesight which in its self is bad enough but in your case it looks like it's even more serious than that.

Have a good day Woody.

ippy

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #64 on: July 10, 2015, 06:57:48 AM »
"Praying at work"!

Isn't praying anywhere a waste of time because unless someone, a real living person, can hear you, you're talking to yourself?
 


ippy

Not always. I have a niece who, when very young, used to play with and converse with somebody that she insisted was there although we couldn't see her. She spent much of her childhood with this person, and was always happy in her company, so I suppose you can't say the time was wasted.


Isn't praying anywhere, in the majority of cases, a waste of time because unless someone, a real living person, can hear you, you're talking to yourself?

ippy

Ah, but if your mind has invented that person, he/she IS a real living person to you, who is your friend, and stops you feeling lonely and lost. So how can you consider him/her a waste of time?

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #65 on: July 10, 2015, 07:13:18 AM »
Ah, but if your mind has invented that person, he/she IS a real living person to you, who is your friend, and stops you feeling lonely and lost. So how can you consider him/her a waste of time?
Has anyone ever done any research into the proportion of children who have these 'imaginary' friends?  If that proportion was sufficiently high, could it not be a indicator that the research that the 'Children - religion the default position?' thread is about is more than just pie in the sky?
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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #66 on: July 10, 2015, 07:56:54 AM »
Well, we now see NO sense of apathy in BA towards others NOT like him !!!!!  ;)

 :D :D  I think you need to check the difference between "apathy," and "empathy!"  Unless you're trying to br clever  -  but that never works with you!

OOH DEAR Hit a sore point have we???
Trying to be clever isn't necessary. it comes so easily here due to lack of competition.  ;) ;D
ANYWAY - what was this post originally about?
They always tend to become showcases for some here making fools of themselves !?!?!?

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #67 on: July 10, 2015, 09:30:28 AM »
Has anyone ever done any research into the proportion of children who have these 'imaginary' friends?  If that proportion was sufficiently high, could it not be a indicator that the research that the 'Children - religion the default position?' thread is about is more than just pie in the sky?
Actually I had considered bringing up the notion of children creating invisible friends in the 'Children - religion the default position?' as evidence to refute the notion.

So it is correct that without an overt steer from parents, other adults or society in general many children create an invisible friend during a stage in their development. And indeed this it probably the most common occurrence of that sort - other beliefs tend to be much more overtly linked to societal input and acceptance.

But it is massively stretching the point to suggest that this is evidence that the default is that children 'raised alone on a desert island would come to believe in God'.

The first and most obvious challenge is that an invisible friend is not god - far from it. God is supposedly a supernatural and powerful being, perhaps involved in creation etc. The invisible friend isn't that at all - it is typically just what it says - an invented friend - another child rather like the child themselves or their real friends. So belief in an invisible friend cannot be thought of as belief in god because an invisible friend is not god.

The second issue is likelihood. The invention of invisible friends isn't uncommon - I think stats suggest perhaps 40% of kids create one at some time. But this is no-where near enough to argue that it is the default position, which would require most or nearly all to have one.

And finally I am not convinced that the creation of an invisible friend is entirely linked to societal influence. As children are brought up they are exposed to all sorts of examples of people and things which aren't actually real (in a living sense) - whether through stories, or tuning cuddly toys into loved characters etc etc. So against this backdrop I don't think it is unexpected that the child themselves (who at that stage in development will not have a great grasp of the difference between real and imaginary - that comes later) creates their own character. Some might align it with a cuddly toy or doll, others may do it without the need for a 'prop'.

And finally from a anthropomorphic and developmental point of view the create of invisible friends and other types of 'pretend' character used in role play fits perfectly within the evolutionary driver for the development of advanced social skills as we are inherently a social species. No god required for an explanation.

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #68 on: July 10, 2015, 11:52:06 AM »
Splendid post, Prof, as usual!

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #69 on: July 10, 2015, 12:27:16 PM »
When my grandson was two he asked his mother why she believed in Jesus as she couldn't see, hear or feel him, he wasn't religious by nature.

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #70 on: July 10, 2015, 12:30:48 PM »
When my grandson was two he asked his mother why she believed in Jesus as she couldn't see, hear or feel him, he wasn't religious by nature.
Out of the mouths ...
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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #71 on: July 10, 2015, 12:37:50 PM »
When my grandson was two he asked his mother why she believed in Jesus as she couldn't see, hear or feel him, he wasn't religious by nature.
Out of the mouths ...

His mother was astounded by the question from such a young child. He is highly intelligent, but has Asperger's syndrome. On the occasions his mother takes the lad (now 13) to church he will question the preacher about their sermon! Fortunately for him they are happy for him to do so.

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #72 on: July 10, 2015, 01:27:05 PM »
"Praying at work"!

Isn't praying anywhere a waste of time because unless someone, a real living person, can hear you, you're talking to yourself?
 


ippy

Not always. I have a niece who, when very young, used to play with and converse with somebody that she insisted was there although we couldn't see her. She spent much of her childhood with this person, and was always happy in her company, so I suppose you can't say the time was wasted.


Isn't praying anywhere, in the majority of cases, a waste of time because unless someone, a real living person, can hear you, you're talking to yourself?

ippy

Ah, but if your mind has invented that person, he/she IS a real living person to you, who is your friend, and stops you feeling lonely and lost. So how can you consider him/her a waste of time?

Because my friend told me so.

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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #73 on: July 10, 2015, 02:14:22 PM »
When I was at work, we often spent the day praying that the boss wouldn't come in.
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Re: Praying at work!
« Reply #74 on: July 10, 2015, 02:29:10 PM »
"Look busy ... Jesus is coming"

(from where did that come to mind I wonder  ... :o )
Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now