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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2015, 10:11:42 AM »
I would welcome longer opening hours on Sunday.

I hate the fact that Sunday is a dead day where things close early.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2015, 10:15:45 AM »
It will adversely affect small shopkeepers who are already disadvantaged by the fact that large chains have a buying power they simply cannot match.

Years ago I and my partner had a grocery/off licence for a couple of years (hardest work of my life btw) and the sugar I bought from the local cash and carry was more expensive than the on offer sugar in Tesco's. This will hasten the death of small independent shopkeepers and make us more dependent on monoliths like Tesco, Sainsburys, et al.

As for boosting the economy I doubt it - it will boost the income to George's friends in the aforementioned chains - but overall economic activity - well I don't know about anyone else but I will still have the same amount of money to spend so I don't really see how it will increase economic activity.

It will shift the activity.

But the real question is, to whose advantage?
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2015, 11:07:07 AM »
I would welcome longer opening hours on Sunday.

I hate the fact that Sunday is a dead day where things close early.

And what massive difference would an extra hour or two make?
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2015, 11:10:44 AM »
I would welcome longer opening hours on Sunday.

I hate the fact that Sunday is a dead day where things close early.

And what massive difference would an extra hour or two make?

I work during the week so it is more convenient.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2015, 11:14:52 AM »
I would welcome longer opening hours on Sunday.

I hate the fact that Sunday is a dead day where things close early.

And what massive difference would an extra hour or two make?

I work during the week so it is more convenient.

So?  I ask again:  what difference would an extra hour or two make?  You can still do your shopping on a Sunday. 

Incidentally, I don't know what your line of work is, but you seem to have ample time to post on here!
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2015, 11:20:20 AM »
I would welcome longer opening hours on Sunday.

I hate the fact that Sunday is a dead day where things close early.

And what massive difference would an extra hour or two make?

I work during the week so it is more convenient.

So?  I ask again:  what difference would an extra hour or two make?  You can still do your shopping on a Sunday. 

Incidentally, I don't know what your line of work is, but you seem to have ample time to post on here!

I work in It and have several screens all around me, so it's quite easy to leave on on here.

I play sport most days and do not finish till late, and on Sunday things are shut. I would prefer them open.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2015, 11:22:57 AM »
I would welcome longer opening hours on Sunday.

I hate the fact that Sunday is a dead day where things close early.

And what massive difference would an extra hour or two make?

I work during the week so it is more convenient.

So?  I ask again:  what difference would an extra hour or two make?  You can still do your shopping on a Sunday. 

Incidentally, I don't know what your line of work is, but you seem to have ample time to post on here!

I work in It and have several screens all around me, so it's quite easy to leave on on here.

I play sport most days and do not finish till late, and on Sunday things are shut. I would prefer them open.

The vast majority of my working life was spent with all shops, except off-licences, closed on sundays; and many had a half- day on Thursday.  I managed fine.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2015, 11:25:04 AM »
I would welcome longer opening hours on Sunday.

I hate the fact that Sunday is a dead day where things close early.

And what massive difference would an extra hour or two make?

I work during the week so it is more convenient.

So?  I ask again:  what difference would an extra hour or two make?  You can still do your shopping on a Sunday. 

Incidentally, I don't know what your line of work is, but you seem to have ample time to post on here!

I work in It and have several screens all around me, so it's quite easy to leave on on here.

I play sport most days and do not finish till late, and on Sunday things are shut. I would prefer them open.

The vast majority of my working life was spent with all shops, except off-licences, closed on sundays; and many had a half- day on Thursday.  I managed fine.

Ok so what.

I prefer the other days when stuff is open 24 hours.

I see no reason why that should not also apply to Sunday.

Why should it be different, it's just another day like any other.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2015, 11:26:57 AM »
Agreed.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2015, 11:27:15 AM »
I would welcome longer opening hours on Sunday.

I hate the fact that Sunday is a dead day where things close early.

And what massive difference would an extra hour or two make?

I work during the week so it is more convenient.

So?  I ask again:  what difference would an extra hour or two make?  You can still do your shopping on a Sunday. 

Incidentally, I don't know what your line of work is, but you seem to have ample time to post on here!

I work in It and have several screens all around me, so it's quite easy to leave on on here.

I play sport most days and do not finish till late, and on Sunday things are shut. I would prefer them open.

The vast majority of my working life was spent with all shops, except off-licences, closed on sundays; and many had a half- day on Thursday.  I managed fine.

Ok so what.

I prefer the other days when stuff is open 24 hours.

I see no reason why that should not also apply to Sunday.

Why should it be different, it's just another day like any other.

Why should shop workers have to work Sundays for your convenience, when you can shop twenty-four hours a day, six days a week, plus six or seven on Sunday, anyway?
« Last Edit: July 08, 2015, 11:28:52 AM by BashfulAnthony »
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2015, 11:29:25 AM »
I would welcome longer opening hours on Sunday.

I hate the fact that Sunday is a dead day where things close early.

And what massive difference would an extra hour or two make?

I work during the week so it is more convenient.

So?  I ask again:  what difference would an extra hour or two make?  You can still do your shopping on a Sunday. 

Incidentally, I don't know what your line of work is, but you seem to have ample time to post on here!

I work in It and have several screens all around me, so it's quite easy to leave on on here.

I play sport most days and do not finish till late, and on Sunday things are shut. I would prefer them open.

The vast majority of my working life was spent with all shops, except off-licences, closed on sundays; and many had a half- day on Thursday.  I managed fine.

Ok so what.

I prefer the other days when stuff is open 24 hours.

I see no reason why that should not also apply to Sunday.

Why should it be different, it's just another day like any other.

Why should shop workers have to work Sundays for your convenience, when you can shop 24 hours a day, 6 days a week?

Why not, they are a convenience store, and I would find it convenient.

It works in Scotland as has been pointed out, why can it not work here?

They may have to employ more people so more employment which is a good thing.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2015, 11:29:52 AM »
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Why should shop workers have to work Sundays for your convenience, when you can shop twenty-four hours a day, six days a week, plus six or seven on Sunday, anyway?
He's already said that he can't do that (nor can most people). Did you miss that post?
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2015, 11:33:13 AM »
I would welcome longer opening hours on Sunday.

I hate the fact that Sunday is a dead day where things close early.

And what massive difference would an extra hour or two make?

I work during the week so it is more convenient.

So?  I ask again:  what difference would an extra hour or two make?  You can still do your shopping on a Sunday. 

Incidentally, I don't know what your line of work is, but you seem to have ample time to post on here!

I work in It and have several screens all around me, so it's quite easy to leave on on here.

I play sport most days and do not finish till late, and on Sunday things are shut. I would prefer them open.

The vast majority of my working life was spent with all shops, except off-licences, closed on sundays; and many had a half- day on Thursday.  I managed fine.

Ok so what.

I prefer the other days when stuff is open 24 hours.

I see no reason why that should not also apply to Sunday.

Why should it be different, it's just another day like any other.

Why should shop workers have to work Sundays for your convenience, when you can shop 24 hours a day, 6 days a week?

Why not, they are a convenience store, and I would find it convenient.

It works in Scotland as has been pointed out, why can it not work here?

They may have to employ more people so more employment which is a good thing.

There are plenty of convenience stores which are allowed to open all day Sunday:  I believe it is down to the amount of floor space they occupy though, I stand to be corrected there. 
« Last Edit: July 08, 2015, 11:34:54 AM by BashfulAnthony »
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2015, 11:34:18 AM »
My local Tesco and ASDA close around 4 on Sunday.

I would prefer them to stay open, as they do Monday to Saturday.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2015, 11:35:17 AM »
My local Tesco and ASDA close around 4 on Sunday.

I would prefer them to stay open, as they do Monday to Saturday.

You're just selfish.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2015, 11:37:40 AM »
My local Tesco and ASDA close around 4 on Sunday.

I would prefer them to stay open, as they do Monday to Saturday.

You're just selfish.

It's my opinion.

I think it will create employment.

Are you selfish to not want these people to have the extra work and money?
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2015, 11:40:01 AM »
My local Tesco and ASDA close around 4 on Sunday.

I would prefer them to stay open, as they do Monday to Saturday.

You're just selfish.
And demanding that a business close, preventing people from availing themselves of it if they want to, isn't?
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2015, 11:49:47 AM »
My local Tesco and ASDA close around 4 on Sunday.

I would prefer them to stay open, as they do Monday to Saturday.

You're just selfish.
And demanding that a business close, preventing people from availing themselves of it if they want to, isn't?

Of course it isn't, not when there are six other days of, in many cases, twenty-four hour shopping, plus six or so hours on Sunday.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2015, 11:53:12 AM »
... which many people can't make use of.

BR doesn't see why a shop regardless of its size shouldn't open as and when it wants to, and nor do I. There are no good arguments against it and lots of good ones for it.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2015, 11:59:18 AM »
...   If you can't find time to shop during a period of six days of twnty-four hour

BR doesn't see why a shop regardless of its size shouldn't open as and when it wants to, and nor do I. There are no good arguments against it and lots of good ones for it.

Rubbish!  if you can't find time in a period of twenty-four hour, six-day, shopping, then you had better get yourself organised better  -  not forgetting that shops are open on Sunday!
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2015, 12:00:39 PM »
Shops of a certain purely arbitrary size are open for fewer hours on a Sunday than on the other six days of the week. There is absolutely no valid reason for this whatever. The whole thing is an absurd mess which, it seems, is soon to become ever so slightly less absurd a mess. What we need is a comprehensive overhaul of ST law, but as is the British way (civil partnerships for example) we'll have an extended period of half-arsed, half-hearted fudge and compromise before common sense finally kicks in.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2015, 12:03:49 PM »
Shops of a certain purely arbitrary size are open for fewer hours on a Sunday than on the other six days of the week. There is absolutely no valid reason for this whatever.

Be that as it may;  there are still plenty of hours available for people to shop adequately now.
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2015, 12:21:43 PM »
If it boosts trade and employment then I am all for it.

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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2015, 12:52:45 PM »
Shops of a certain purely arbitrary size are open for fewer hours on a Sunday than on the other six days of the week. There is absolutely no valid reason for this whatever.

Be that as it may;  there are still plenty of hours available for people to shop adequately now.

So what, more hours makes it easier.

Perhaps you do not work and have all day to shop, I cannot do that.

I do not understand why you object.

Are all the people in Scotland selfish where this seems to work?
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Re: Extended Sunday opening hours
« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2015, 12:54:00 PM »
I think it will create employment.

Are you selfish to not want these people to have the extra work and money?
No, people who oppose the idea are not selfish because the experience many of us have had is that activity changes location, rather than volume, and those who were earning a wage prior to the activity changing location either end up on lower wages working for the supermarkets, or on out-of-work benefits.  Furthermore, the local authorities lose out on business rate income as small independent shops are forced to close, producers' incomes drop, and landlords have a reduced income and therefore may pay less tax; all-in-all, a lose-lose scenario, unless you're a big supermarket chain.
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