Extended Sunday opening hours

[Ricky Spanish]

I love the idea of your daughter having to go barefoot, like some 19th century street urchin, because shops have restricted opening on a Sunday though.

[Nearly Sane]

While you are out getting the shoes, see if you can get a sense of humour and perspective at the same time.

[BeRational]

I think you are all missing the point.

Yes you can operate with Sunday opening hours as they are, we do that now.

The question is, why is it unreasonable for shops and employees that want to, to open as long as they want on Sunday?

[ProfessorDavey]

I love the idea of your daughter having to go barefoot, like some 19th century street urchin, because shops have restricted opening on a Sunday though.

She won't of course. The only point I am making is that the current restrictions on Sunday are regularly a real pain for the millions of people who have lives pretty similar to mine. And they needn't be.

I know other with my less busy lives may be scratching their heads at what I am saying, but trust me the limitations of possible times to get to the shops can be incredible for working parents with kids who have busy lives of things they are doing (and occasionally leisure activities for the parents too).

[ProfessorDavey]

I think you are all missing the point.

Yes you can operate with Sunday opening hours as they are, we do that now.

The question is, why is it unreasonable for shops and employees that want to, to open as long as they want on Sunday?

Agree - life can be stressful enough without this unnecessary irritation making it more so.

[BeRational]

While you are out getting the shoes, see if you can get a sense of humour and perspective at the same time.

Are you saying things are only important, if you say so?

[Nearly Sane]

I love the idea of your daughter having to go barefoot, like some 19th century street urchin, because shops have restricted opening on a Sunday though.

at least she won't be alone, as there are millions of others in the same boat

[ProfessorDavey]

While you are out getting the shoes, see if you can get a sense of humour and perspective at the same time.

Sadly won't be able to purchase some perspective and a sense of humour in the near future because the perspective and sense of humour shops aren't open long enough on a Sunday so I won't be able to get there this weekend.

I'll check out whether these items are available from Amazon for next day delivery!

[Nearly Sane]

While you are out getting the shoes, see if you can get a sense of humour and perspective at the same time.

Are you saying things are only important, if you say so?

Get the same for BeRational, Prof, while you are at the shops.

[Ricky Spanish]

So look at my upcoming weekend - and I haven't even thrown in 3 kids parties that the kids will need to be ferried to. Saturday is completely out, as is the whole of Sunday afternoon. And my daughter has a party on Sunday morning from 11. So if she needs new shoes (for example), explain to me when exactly we are going do that?

This evening?

The shoe shops close at 5:30pm and neither me nor my wife will be home from work by then. And my daughter is at after school club until 5:30.

So, nope that doesn't work.

All shoe shops everywhere close at 5:30 tonight? Even the one's in shopping centres and retail parks?

You should write to them and complain about how their restricted weekday opening hours are not suitable for your lifestyle.

[ProfessorDavey]

I love the idea of your daughter having to go barefoot, like some 19th century street urchin, because shops have restricted opening on a Sunday though.

at least she won't be alone, as there are millions of others in the same boat

Just out of interest, when was the last time you went into a shoe shop on a Sunday to get your child's feet measured and to buy some new shoes?

Most of the shops have a 'take a ticket' system for service. Being 10th in line isn't unusual. Not whinging, merely pointing out that Sunday for busy parent is a prime time to try to get shoes (for obvious reasons) and the short opening hours are a problem and clearly there is enough potential custom to easily justify much longer opening hours.

[Ricky Spanish]

I love the idea of your daughter having to go barefoot, like some 19th century street urchin, because shops have restricted opening on a Sunday though.

at least she won't be alone, as there are millions of others in the same boat

How do other working parents manage to furnish their children with shoes?

[Shaker]

What's unrealistic about shops being open the same amount of hours on a Sunday as a Saturday?

[BeRational]

While you are out getting the shoes, see if you can get a sense of humour and perspective at the same time.

Are you saying things are only important, if you say so?

Get the same for BeRational, Prof, while you are at the shops.

I see you are evading now.

Its only important if you say do.

I will have to remember that

[BeRational]

I love the idea of your daughter having to go barefoot, like some 19th century street urchin, because shops have restricted opening on a Sunday though.

at least she won't be alone, as there are millions of others in the same boat

How do other working parents manage to furnish their children with shoes?

Why do you ask?

In what way is this relevant?

[Ricky Spanish]

I love the idea of your daughter having to go barefoot, like some 19th century street urchin, because shops have restricted opening on a Sunday though.

at least she won't be alone, as there are millions of others in the same boat

Just out of interest, when was the last time you went into a shoe shop on a Sunday to get your child's feet measured and to buy some new shoes?

Most of the shops have a 'take a ticket' system for service. Being 10th in line isn't unusual. Not whinging, merely pointing out that Sunday for busy parent is a prime time to try to get shoes (for obvious reasons) and the short opening hours are a problem and clearly there is enough potential custom to easily justify much longer opening hours.

If retailers already have such a captive market on Sundays then you're suggesting that they should go to more expense (opening longer incurs more overheads) for no additional revenue.

[Ricky Spanish]

I love the idea of your daughter having to go barefoot, like some 19th century street urchin, because shops have restricted opening on a Sunday though.

at least she won't be alone, as there are millions of others in the same boat

How do other working parents manage to furnish their children with shoes?

Why do you ask?

Perhaps they have a solution to this conundrum that PD has overlooked.

[BeRational]

I love the idea of your daughter having to go barefoot, like some 19th century street urchin, because shops have restricted opening on a Sunday though.

at least she won't be alone, as there are millions of others in the same boat

How do other working parents manage to furnish their children with shoes?

Why do you ask?

Perhaps they have a solution to this conundrum that PD has overlooked.

There is.

They stay open on Sunday as they do on others days.

[ProfessorDavey]

So look at my upcoming weekend - and I haven't even thrown in 3 kids parties that the kids will need to be ferried to. Saturday is completely out, as is the whole of Sunday afternoon. And my daughter has a party on Sunday morning from 11. So if she needs new shoes (for example), explain to me when exactly we are going do that?

This evening?

The shoe shops close at 5:30pm and neither me nor my wife will be home from work by then. And my daughter is at after school club until 5:30.

So, nope that doesn't work.

All shoe shops everywhere close at 5:30 tonight? Even the one's in shopping centres and retail parks?

You should write to them and complain about how their restricted weekday opening hours are not suitable for your lifestyle.

Actually there are very few retailers that provide a proper service for kids and have a decent range of styles and (obviously critically) sizes. None are open late. Even the more bog standard retailers (which often don't really provide a decent range of kids shoes, if at all) most aren't open late enough for an after work trip. But you also have to add in that one or other of the kids (and often the parents) are at gymnastics, gym class, scouts, choir etc etc every early evening with the exception of Friday, so are being ferried to other places.

But again back to the main point - I'd like unnecessary restrictions to be removed so that I (and others) can better plan their need for shopping around their lives, rather than having to plan their lives around the need for shopping.

Why is that a problem to you.

[ProfessorDavey]

I love the idea of your daughter having to go barefoot, like some 19th century street urchin, because shops have restricted opening on a Sunday though.

at least she won't be alone, as there are millions of others in the same boat

How do other working parents manage to furnish their children with shoes?

In exactly the same way as we do - through having to plan our lives around the (often rather stressful) trip to the shoe shop.

[ProfessorDavey]

I love the idea of your daughter having to go barefoot, like some 19th century street urchin, because shops have restricted opening on a Sunday though.

at least she won't be alone, as there are millions of others in the same boat

How do other working parents manage to furnish their children with shoes?

Why do you ask?

Perhaps they have a solution to this conundrum that PD has overlooked.

While having taken your ticket and waiting for the ten people in front of you to be served, there is almost always some other parents and their kids you know there too. Also stressed and frustrated and often desperately checking their watch as they need to be somewhere else (probably to enjoy family life) ten minutes ago.

[Nearly Sane]

While you are out getting the shoes, see if you can get a sense of humour and perspective at the same time.

Are you saying things are only important, if you say so?

Get the same for BeRational, Prof, while you are at the shops.

I see you are evading now.

Its only important if you say do.

I will have to remember that

Think it will have to be the  extra powered sense of humour for BeRational, Prof, not sure if he needs shoes though

[BeRational]

Sane

So if you ever say someone is evading as you are now, the correct rebuttal is get a sense of humour.

Ok

[Nearly Sane]

So these highly specialized shoe retailers have the ability to open later but do not do so. Sounds to me even with a change in the law baby Prof will still struggle to get new shoes.

[Nearly Sane]

Sane

So if you ever say someone is evading as you are now, the correct rebuttal is get a sense of humour.

Ok

Stop stamping your tiny feet, you will ruin your shoes and then will struggle to buy new ones.