Extended Sunday opening hours

[Rhiannon]

Anyways, back on topic. Just been to Tesco and had a word with the friendly checkout person (community thingy going on there, see?) after being directed to nice empty till by another and given replacement bread for the loaves inadvertently squashed at the bottom of my trolley by one of the managers. Anyways, friendly check-out person informs me that she likes working longer hours on Sunday as it's time and a half. She has to work late anyway because the self service tills need sorting so it makes no odds to her. She's contracted to work weekends but others aren't - but she prefers weekend work as its busier and so more interesting. Of far more concern is the imminent opening of a new Aldi - the most recent staff are already having their contracts cancelled. I haven't heard of small businesses laying off staff because of a supermarket that hasn't opened yet.

[Shaker]

King's Lynn is most definitely best driven through very quickly, with one's eyes closed if possible.

I spent a month there one weekend not long back and can confirm that apart from that bit by the river (North Quay, South Quay, Hanse House and so on) it's the town that the Luftwaffe forgot.

[Shaker]

Yes, sorry, back on track 

[jeremyp]

Please give reasons why it should be any day other than sunday.

Most people in this country are not Christians.

[Rhiannon]

King's Lynn is most definitely best driven through very quickly, with one's eyes closed if possible.

I spent a month there one weekend not long back and can confirm that apart from that bit by the river (North Quay, South Quay, Hanse House and so on) it's the town that the Luftwaffe forgot.

The ad at the bottom of the screen is offering me a stay in a King's Lynn holiday camp. 

[Shaker]

Please give reasons why it should be any day other than sunday.

Most people in this country are not Christians.

In fact according to one survey carried out in April this year 62% said they were not religious.

[jeremyp]

Please give reasons why it should be any day other than sunday.

Most people in this country are not Christians.

In fact according to one survey acarried out in April this year 62% said they were not religious.

There are quite a lot of active Muslims in this country.  Maybe we should designate Friday as the National Weekly Holiday.

[Shaker]

Please give reasons why it should be any day other than sunday.

Most people in this country are not Christians.

In fact according to one survey acarried out in April this year 62% said they were not religious.

There are quite a lot of active Muslims in this country.  Maybe we should designate Friday as the National Weekly Holiday.

... for national renewal 

[Gonnagle]

Dear Shaker,

Course they are religious, they worship at the temple of Tesco and Asda but that's low Church high Church is Waitrose.

Gonnagle.

[ProfessorDavey]

Please give reasons why it should be any day other than sunday.

Most people in this country are not Christians.

In fact according to one survey acarried out in April this year 62% said they were not religious.

There are quite a lot of active Muslims in this country.  Maybe we should designate Friday as the National Weekly Holiday.

Given our need not to be seen to be favouring one religion over another, surely it has to be Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday. Otherwise it might be seen to favour Muslims (if Friday), Jews (if Saturday) or Christians (if Sunday).

Lets go for Tuesday.

[jeremyp]

Lets go for Tuesday.

So you want to favour people who worship the Germanic god of war do you? 

[Rhiannon]

Please give reasons why it should be any day other than sunday.

Most people in this country are not Christians.

In fact according to one survey acarried out in April this year 62% said they were not religious.

There are quite a lot of active Muslims in this country.  Maybe we should designate Friday as the National Weekly Holiday.

Given our need not to be seen to be favouring one religion over another, surely it has to be Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday. Otherwise it might be seen to favour Muslims (if Friday), Jews (if Saturday) or Christians (if Sunday).

Lets go for Tuesday.

No, it's Heathen, as is every day except Saturday. But that's Roman pagan.

I know, why not make it the day that suits people best? My friends who own and run an independent gift shop work a six day week and take Monday off.

[Shaker]

No, it's Heathen, as is every day except Saturday. But that's Roman pagan.

I know, why not make it the day that suits people best? My friends who own and run an independent gift shop work a six day week and take Monday off.

... and then there's the fact that a great many restaurants/takeaways etc. are closed Mondays.

[Rhiannon]

Dear Shaker,

Course they are religious, they worship at the temple of Tesco and Asda but that's low Church high Church is Waitrose.

Gonnagle.

You know why I like supermarkets? Because I take my kids in the car with the iPod playing a mixed-up playlist, and we walk around the supermarket singing and arguing over who pushes the trolley, then we come home and put it away together (still singing) and then we get some more precious time together because it's done, we have stuff to cook and stuff to eat, and then we do cook and eat and we love it. And I'm sorry it isn't like that for everyone, but me not going to Tesco on a Sunday won't change that.

[Shaker]

You know why I like supermarkets? Because I take my kids in the car with the iPod playing a mixed-up playlist, and we walk around the supermarket singing and arguing over who pushes the trolley, then we come home and put it away together (still singing) and then we get some more precious time together because it's done, we have stuff to cook and stuff to eat, and then we do cook and eat and we love it. And I'm sorry it isn't like that for everyone, but me not going to Tesco on a Sunday won't change that.

Pull me up on this by all means if I'm wrong, but that comes across as family time to me, the sort of thing that the antis think that Sunday trading (especially more Sunday trading than we currently have) will be killed off or at least harmed or damaged by in some way. Have I missed something?

[Rhiannon]

You know why I like supermarkets? Because I take my kids in the car with the iPod playing a mixed-up playlist, and we walk around the supermarket singing and arguing over who pushes the trolley, then we come home and put it away together (still singing) and then we get some more precious time together because it's done, we have stuff to cook and stuff to eat, and then we do cook and eat and we love it. And I'm sorry it isn't like that for everyone, but me not going to Tesco on a Sunday won't change that.

Pull me up on this by all means if I'm wrong, but that comes across as family time to me, the sort of thing that the antis think that Sunday trading (especially more Sunday trading than we currently have) will be killed off or at least harmed or damaged by in some way. Have I missed something?

Yep, it's family time. It frees up time to do other things because I get everything I need in one hit, but also it's something fun in itself. It hasn't always been possible for us to do this for various reasons and so it means the world to me. I just hope that people who work on Sundays get their family time, if they want it.

[ProfessorDavey]

Lets go for Tuesday.

So you want to favour people who worship the Germanic god of war do you?

Hmm - yup your right. Monday it is then.

[Shaker]

Lets go for Tuesday.

So you want to favour people who worship the Germanic god of war do you?

Hmm - yup your right. Monday it is then.

Why have you got such a downer on those who worship lunar deities, you fascist?

[Rhiannon]

Lets go for Tuesday.

So you want to favour people who worship the Germanic god of war do you?

Hmm - yup your right. Monday it is then.

Doesn't work either.

http://heathendailyliving.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/daily-rituals-for-each-day-of-week.html

[ProfessorDavey]

Lets go for Tuesday.

So you want to favour people who worship the Germanic god of war do you?

Hmm - yup your right. Monday it is then.

Doesn't work either.

http://heathendailyliving.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/daily-rituals-for-each-day-of-week.html

Blimey guys - tricky isn't it.

I know here's another idea. Rather than insist on a state defined day of leisure (which of course wouldn't be as many people's leisure activities require others to be working to allow them to pursue that leisure activity) - why not let people decide when they want to spend time not working and how they choose to spend that time.

[Shaker]

Blimey guys - tricky isn't it.

I know here's another idea. Rather than insist on a state defined day of leisure (which of course wouldn't be as many people's leisure activities require others to be working to allow them to pursue that leisure activity) - why not let people decide when they want to spend time not working and how they choose to spend that time.

No ... no ... there has to be something wrong with that somewhere along the line ... I'll get back to you.

[ProfessorDavey]

Blimey guys - tricky isn't it.

I know here's another idea. Rather than insist on a state defined day of leisure (which of course wouldn't be as many people's leisure activities require others to be working to allow them to pursue that leisure activity) - why not let people decide when they want to spend time not working and how they choose to spend that time.

No ... no ... there has to be something wrong with that somewhere along the line ... I'll get back to you.

Sorry - my mistake - I forgot that it is of course important for some people to be allowed (throughout the law) to dictate what I can and cannot do on one specific day of the week compared to the others.

[BashfulAnthony]

Is there something inherently good, fine, noble, praiseworthy and deserving of protection and preservation about small shops (which for current legal purposes is anything under the entirely arbitrary 280 sq. m/3000 sq. ft.)? I see a lot of standing up for the small shop by the anti-choice brigade on here with no justification offered as to why except that they're small, apparently.

The Government is constantly extolling both the virtues and the necessity of encouraging the growth of small businesses.  But, of course the selfish, politically inept, characters on here care only for their own convenience, and the little shops and shopkeepers can go to the wall.   Of course, the greedy, grasping supermarkets are to be encouraged to fleece us out of even more money with their grossly inflated prices.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Bashers,
 Step away from the thread, their arguments are like dust, they have built their house on sand, tumbleweed blows through the thread, they are left weeping and gnashing their teeth, the sweat shops of India are rejoicing that their are still some who worship at the temple of consumerism.

Gonnagle.

[ProfessorDavey]

Is there something inherently good, fine, noble, praiseworthy and deserving of protection and preservation about small shops (which for current legal purposes is anything under the entirely arbitrary 280 sq. m/3000 sq. ft.)? I see a lot of standing up for the small shop by the anti-choice brigade on here with no justification offered as to why except that they're small, apparently.

The Government is constantly extolling both the virtues and the necessity of encouraging the growth of small businesses.  But, of course the selfish, politically inept, characters on here care only for their own convenience, and the little shops and shopkeepers can go to the wall.   Of course, the greedy, grasping supermarkets are to be encouraged to fleece us out of even more money with their grossly inflated prices.

The vast, vast (even add it a third time) vast majority of small businesses in this country will not be affected one iota by whether or not supermarkets can open longer on a Sunday - why - because they aren't competing with supermarkets. For example the nursery I own or the business firm he friend whose 40th I am going to tonight owns.

Except in one respect - a boost to jobs and to the economy tends to help everyone in the economy because there is a little more cash around to be spent - for example through those able to increase their hours to levels they'd prefer or actually getting a job when they didn't have one due to the increased hours for some shops.

And as has been pointed out many times the small shops that were likely to go to the wall due to supermarket competition have long since gone to the wall. Successful small businesses these days aren't going head to head with the big supermarkets - they offer something different and will still be offering something different if Tescos starts to open from 8-7 on a Sunday.