Author Topic: Ashes 2015 (Read 12794 times)

BashfulAnthony · « **Reply #25 on:** July 18, 2015, 04:00:34 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on July 18, 2015, 03:41:05 PM

England are seven down and need 93 to avoid the follow on. How up are you going to play their chances? I'd say they will lose before the fifth day.

Still on the first innings: too early to make definite judgements. I don't think Australia will enforce the follow-on, it would be too much to expect their bowlers to be fresh enough to bowl effectively for successive innings. Assuming that England don't reach the follow-on target, even now. One thing I have learned over the years is never to take any situation in a match for granted; things can change so easily and dramatically. Then there is the possibility of rain now.

jeremyp · « **Reply #26 on:** July 18, 2015, 04:06:00 PM »

But you have to admit it's looking pretty grim. The low morale dad's army is giving us a pasting.

jeremyp · « **Reply #27 on:** July 18, 2015, 04:09:31 PM »

Incidentally we are getting pasted in the match I'm watching. The opposition are thinking of declaring and it's a limited overs match.

BashfulAnthony · « **Reply #28 on:** July 18, 2015, 04:10:46 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on July 18, 2015, 04:06:00 PM

But you have to admit it's looking pretty grim. The low morale dad's army is giving us a pasting.

The Aussies are on top, but as I said, you just never know in cricket, or any sport for that matter. And the Aussies are still Dad's army: you can't turn the clock back!

BashfulAnthony · « **Reply #29 on:** July 18, 2015, 04:14:26 PM »

Off thread, but just seen GB win the doubles in the Davis Cup match, to put us on the brink of the semi-finals - and that would be against the Aussies again, I think!

jeremyp · « **Reply #30 on:** July 20, 2015, 07:43:36 AM »

The demoralised Dads' Army seems to have given us a damned good thrashing. The Aussies needn't even have bothered with their second innings.

Hope · « **Reply #31 on:** July 20, 2015, 07:49:34 AM »

Quote from: BashfulAnthony on July 18, 2015, 04:14:26 PM

Off thread, but just seen GB win the doubles in the Davis Cup match, to put us on the brink of the semi-finals - and that would be against the Aussies again, I think!

There is going to be a fair amount of England/GB v Australia in the next couple of months - cricket, rugby, tennis.

BashfulAnthony · « **Reply #32 on:** July 22, 2015, 10:51:13 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on July 20, 2015, 07:43:36 AM

The demoralised Dads' Army seems to have given us a damned good thrashing. The Aussies needn't even have bothered with their second innings.

Support your own team, if you do support England, and leave the playing down to the Aussies, and co.

jeremyp · « **Reply #33 on:** July 23, 2015, 09:34:06 AM »

Quote from: BashfulAnthony on July 22, 2015, 10:51:13 PM

Quote from: jeremyp on July 20, 2015, 07:43:36 AM
The demoralised Dads' Army seems to have given us a damned good thrashing. The Aussies needn't even have bothered with their second innings.

Support your own team, if you do support England,

Since when did supporting a team mean I am not allowed to be critical of its performance, or, more to the point, critical of somebody who wants to deny reality?

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and leave the playing down to the Aussies, and co.

It's a shame the England team left the playing to the Aussies. Maybe they wouldn't have been so humiliated by the team you characterised as demoralised and a "Dad's Army" if they had bothered to turn up.

BashfulAnthony · « **Reply #34 on:** July 23, 2015, 09:46:55 AM »

Quote from: jeremyp on July 23, 2015, 09:34:06 AM

Quote from: BashfulAnthony on July 22, 2015, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: jeremyp on July 20, 2015, 07:43:36 AM
The demoralised Dads' Army seems to have given us a damned good thrashing. The Aussies needn't even have bothered with their second innings.

Support your own team, if you do support England,

Since when did supporting a team mean I am not allowed to be critical of its performance, or, more to the point, critical of somebody who wants to deny reality?

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and leave the playing down to the Aussies, and co.
It's a shame the England team left the playing to the Aussies. Maybe they wouldn't have been so humiliated by the team you characterised as demoralised and a "Dad's Army" if they had bothered to turn up.

There is no need to go on about England's deficiencies in this match: the players know it well enough. I suggest, as the Aussies did, we address the problems and continue to back our side. It is when you are down that you need encouragement, not when you are winning, which is encouragement in itself.

SqueakyVoice · « **Reply #35 on:** July 30, 2015, 04:53:30 PM »

At this rate, it looks like England will be asking for the extra half hour to polish off the aussies in 2 days...

jeremyp · « **Reply #36 on:** July 30, 2015, 10:39:16 PM »

Quote from: SqueakyVoice on July 30, 2015, 04:53:30 PM

At this rate, it looks like England will be asking for the extra half hour to polish off the aussies in 2 days...

Astonishing performance over the last two days.

Hope · « **Reply #37 on:** July 31, 2015, 07:54:08 AM »

Really pleased for Steve Finn - I've always rated his bowling, even with all the problems he was having with knocking into the wickets in his run up.

Hope · « **Reply #38 on:** July 31, 2015, 11:48:22 AM »

At last, Neville out.

Concerning the review issue, should reviews that show that the batsman is potentially out, but result in "umpires' call", be treated as succcesful in regard to losing a review, since the review call has been shown to be legitimate?

jeremyp · « **Reply #39 on:** July 31, 2015, 01:22:15 PM »

Quote from: Hope on July 31, 2015, 11:48:22 AM

At last, Neville out.

Concerning the review issue, should reviews that show that the batsman is potentially out, but result in "umpires' call", be treated as succcesful in regard to losing a review, since the review call has been shown to be legitimate?

Personally, I think that "umpire's call" is a nonsense. If the review shows the batsman to be out, he should be out (and vice versa).

Hope · « **Reply #40 on:** July 31, 2015, 03:41:03 PM »

Whilst we have some appalling bowling and batting this match, we have had some amazing balls bowled - the two that Mitchell Johnson bowled to Bairstow and Stokes in the first innings and Starc's ball that bowled Cook in the second. Then several of Anderson's and Finn's 15 wicket-taking balls and some of Nathan Lyons wicket-taking balls!

Hope · « **Reply #41 on:** July 31, 2015, 09:36:45 PM »

Cricket and Ashes related, but tenuously: There are 3 Mitchells in the Australian squad, all first names. IIRC, they are all in their early - mid-20s. Now, my question is - was there a famous 'Mitchell' (soap character/actor/politician/sportsman/...) in Australia in the late 80s/early 90s that they were named after.

jeremyp · « **Reply #42 on:** August 01, 2015, 02:03:35 AM »

Quote from: Hope on July 31, 2015, 09:36:45 PM

Cricket and Ashes related, but tenuously: There are 3 Mitchells in the Australian squad, all first names. IIRC, they are all in their early - mid-20s. Now, my question is - was there a famous 'Mitchell' (soap character/actor/politician/sportsman/...) in Australia in the late 80s/early 90s that they were named after.

There are several, including "our" very own Kylie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madge_Bishop

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlene_Robinson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ramsay_(Neighbours)

Hope · « **Reply #43 on:** August 06, 2015, 01:11:49 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on August 01, 2015, 02:03:35 AM

There are several, including "our" very own Kylie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madge_Bishop

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlene_Robinson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ramsay_(Neighbours)

Thanks, jeremy. Hadn't realised that Mitchell preceded Robinson. Mind you, Mitchell was a surname not a given one.

Hope · « **Reply #44 on:** August 06, 2015, 01:12:41 PM »

What a start to the 4th Test. I'm sure that Jimmy A is wishing he'd been fit for the match!!

Outrider · « **Reply #45 on:** August 06, 2015, 01:15:48 PM »

Caught a newsflash this morning saying England had opted to field, then saw your comment. Flashed up the BBC cricket page and saw 'England 13-0 at lunch' and thought I'd got it wrong... all out for 60.

Some wag on the BBC site suggesting England should declare and put them straight back in

O.

Hope · « **Reply #46 on:** August 06, 2015, 05:06:45 PM »

Some superb pictures of 'shocked' vegetables and power sockets on the BBC Test webpage - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/cricket/32809885 (scroll down through the text summary).

jeremyp · « **Reply #47 on:** August 07, 2015, 12:46:59 PM »

Looks like the Aussies will be back in after lunch. If they fail to overtake England's lead and they are bowled out befor lunch tomorrow, England will have won two test matches in the time allocated to play one

Hope · « **Reply #48 on:** August 07, 2015, 01:20:27 PM »

They were in before lunch for 10 minutes, a shock declaration by Cook at about 12.42.

Hope · « **Reply #49 on:** August 07, 2015, 05:29:15 PM »

Apparently, Wood has bowled at least a full over of no balls, as well as a number of one-offs. We have just had Finn bowl one off which Neville was caught. It wasn't called until after the catch had been taken and the 3rd umpire been involved.

There is a lot of concern, both on the radio and TV that no-balls aren't being called. Is it not time that, unless an umpire calls a no-ball 'in play', the fact that the ball might have been a no-ball becomes irrelevant?

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Author Topic: Ashes 2015 (Read 12794 times)