Do you believe in hell?

[floo]

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[Hope]

If you do believe in hell, what do you think it is like?

Yes I do, Floo.  In my view, it is 'simply' external existence without the God who created us.  For some, that may sound very promising - almost heavenly; for others, it doesn't.

[BeRational]

If you do believe in hell, what do you think it is like?

Yes I do, Floo.  In my view, it is 'simply' external existence without the God who created us.  For some, that may sound very promising - almost heavenly; for others, it doesn't.

It feels like that to me now, so what's the difference?

[Hope]

It feels like that to me now, so what's the difference?

If I understand your current position on the issue, NS, there probably isn't much difference.  The only real long-term difference would be that you wouldn't have the opportunity to discuss the possibility of God's existence, as you do here.

[BeRational]

It feels like that to me now, so what's the difference?

If I understand your current position on the issue, NS, there probably isn't much difference.  The only real long-term difference would be that you wouldn't have the opportunity to discuss the possibility of God's existence, as you do here.

It's not NS by the way.

I do not understand, I do not believe we currently have a god in this universe, and yet we can still discuss the possibility of it.

What would a universe with no god in it look like?

I suggest it would look just like this one.

[Anchorman]

If you do believe in hell, what do you think it is like?

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I try not to contemplate it...I don't intend to go there.
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If as a Christian you don't believe in the place, why not, presumably you believe in heaven? Do you believe non believers cease to be when they die?

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I believe in the new life in Christ which started when I accepted Him, and will reach its fullness when I see Him face to face.

[Anchorman]

If you do believe in hell, what do you think it is like?

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I try not to contemplate it...I don't intend to go there.
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If as a Christian you don't believe in the place, why not, presumably you believe in heaven? Do you believe non believers cease to be when they die?

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I believe in the new life in Christ which started when I accepted Him, and will reach its fullness when I see Him face to face.

Do you believe in hell, was the actual question?

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"I try not to contemplate it....I don't intend to go there"  answers your question.

[Shaker]

Of course hell exists. There's abundant evidence of it.

It's just that it's not something that exists after death - that's a perfectly foul, vile concept.

[torridon]

Do you believe in hell ?

Nope.

Noone can torture you when you are dead.  Comes with the territory of being dead.

[torridon]

If you do believe in hell, what do you think it is like?

Yes I do, Floo.  In my view, it is 'simply' external existence without the God who created us. 

What is external existence ? What is the evidence for it ?

[Dicky Underpants]

If you do believe in hell, what do you think it is like?

I think Ecclesiastes said all that needs to be said about the matter:

5] For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward; but the memory of them is lost.

10] Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or thought or knowledge or wisdom in the grave (Sheol), to which you are going.

Ecclesiastes 9

[OH MY WORLD!]

"The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all nations that forget God."   Psalm 9:17

Now the wicked and the righteous do not go to the same place so I cannot accept that hell is just the grave. Nope, in this case hell is more than the grave.

[Dicky Underpants]

"The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all nations that forget God."   Psalm 9:17

Now the wicked and the righteous do not go to the same place so I cannot accept that hell is just the grave. Nope, in this case hell is more than the grave.

'Hell' 'Grave', same word - 'Sheol' throughout the OT, as far as I'm aware.

"The soul that sinneth, it shall die"  Ezekiel

[Hope]

It's not NS by the way.

Sorry, my mistake

I do not understand, I do not believe we currently have a god in this universe, and yet we can still discuss the possibility of it.

Precisely, you believe that there is no god, yet you can still debate/discuss the possibility. In hell, I don't believe that you will be able to because then God will definitely not be there.

What would a universe with no god in it look like?

I would have to question whether there would be a universe if God was not here.

I suggest it would look just like this one.

That's your prerogative.

[Hope]

"The soul that sinneth, it shall die"  Ezekiel

So, are you agreeing that there is such a thing as a soul?

[Dicky Underpants]

"The soul that sinneth, it shall die"  Ezekiel

So, are you agreeing that there is such a thing as a soul?

Hebrew 'nephesh' seems to be used to mean simply the whole person, as 'soul' is sometimes used in English.

"And man became a living soul" - Genesis 2, if I'm not mistaken.

I'm not denying that these concepts changed over time in the scriptures - particularly during the inter-testamental years. By the time we get to Christianity, lots of other stuff has got mixed into the pudding.

[Shaker]

Precisely, you believe that there is no god, yet you can still debate/discuss the possibility. In hell, I don't believe that you will be able to because then God will definitely not be there.

So God isn't omnipresent?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

If you do believe in hell, what do you think it is like?

If as a Christian you don't believe in the place, why not, presumably you believe in heaven? Do you believe non believers cease to be when they die?

1) Yes.
2) Separation from God.

[trippymonkey]

If you do believe in hell, what do you think it is like?

Yes I do, Floo.  In my view, it is 'simply' external existence without the God who created us.  For some, that may sound very promising - almost heavenly; for others, it doesn't.

AHHH So you think there's at least ONE place where God ISN'T then.
How can this be

[ad_orientem]

If you do believe in hell, what do you think it is like?

Yes I do, Floo.  In my view, it is 'simply' external existence without the God who created us.  For some, that may sound very promising - almost heavenly; for others, it doesn't.

AHHH So you think there's at least ONE place where God ISN'T then.
How can this be

I don't know where this idea has come about. Indeed, God is everywhere as the Psalmist says "If I ascend into heaven, thou art there: if I descend into hell, thou art present".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_hell#Orthodox_conceptions_of_hell

[trippymonkey]

EXACTLY but there are obviously some here who feel this.
How can there be ANYWHERE God isn't. God wouldn't be God then, eh???

[ippy]

If you do believe in hell, what do you think it is like?

Yes I do, Floo.  In my view, it is 'simply' external existence without the God who created us.  For some, that may sound very promising - almost heavenly; for others, it doesn't.

So it looks like you're already there then Hope, since there's no credible evidence to support the god idea.

ippy

[OH MY WORLD!]

No Mr. Dicky,
Sheol is used several different ways with different meanings and one should keep context in mind when reading that word.

[cyberman]

If you do believe in hell, what do you think it is like?

If as a Christian you don't believe in the place, why not, presumably you believe in heaven? Do you believe non believers cease to be when they die?

Well, if our friend Ralph were here, he would treat you to a big colourful picture explaining what a loaded question is!

You have built into your question an assumption that whether or not you are a "non-believer" has something to do with whether you go to heaven.  Why not ask that rather than assume it?

[Hope]

So it looks like you're already there then Hope, since, in my humble opinion, there's no credible evidence to support the god idea.

ippy

FIFY, ippy