Have you tried reading the NT in the correct order?

[Nearly Sane]

BTW Vlad, any reason for switching the terms naturalistic and material here other than lying by creating a strawman? Is it that you are so stupid to think it makes no difference? Or are just such a big fan of lying that you throb and spunk onto the screen at the simplistic lie?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

BTW Vlad, any reason for switching the terms naturalistic and material here other than lying by creating a strawman? Is it that you are so stupid to think it makes no difference? Or are just such a big fan of lying that you throb and spunk onto the screen at the simplistic lie?

Is the study of material events not naturalistic?

You've been found talking shit trying to portray the resurrection as a supernatural event as if it only manifested itself in supernature,
But it is also an event claimed as happening in nature.

Suck it up.

[Outrider]

BTW Vlad, any reason for switching the terms naturalistic and material here other than lying by creating a strawman? Is it that you are so stupid to think it makes no difference? Or are just such a big fan of lying that you throb and spunk onto the screen at the simplistic lie?

Is the study of material events not naturalistic?

You've been found talking shit trying to portray the resurrection as a supernatural event as if it only manifested itself in supernature,
But it is also an event claimed as happening in nature.

Suck it up.

And there hasn't been sufficient evidence to justify accepting the claim as a material event, or even a methodology by which we could determine if it happened as a supernatural one.

O.

[Nearly Sane]

Ah so you have gone for the declaring your stupidity option, Vlad. Brave.


Quite a difference between material, something that has a physical appearance, and naturalistic, something that is assumed to be within a natural cause and effect.

Please stop abusing terms like a Catholic priest abusing a random child.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

BTW Vlad, any reason for switching the terms naturalistic and material here other than lying by creating a strawman? Is it that you are so stupid to think it makes no difference? Or are just such a big fan of lying that you throb and spunk onto the screen at the simplistic lie?

Is the study of material events not naturalistic?

You've been found talking shit trying to portray the resurrection as a supernatural event as if it only manifested itself in supernature,
But it is also an event claimed as happening in nature.

Suck it up.

And there hasn't been sufficient evidence to justify accepting the claim as a material event, or even a methodology by which we could determine if it happened as a supernatural one.

O.

Well, Sane and Gordon seem to be misunderstood about history and Gordon has not provided an alternative history and made a huge assumption on the credulity of people at this time.

I've not seen your historical prowess in action. perhaps you can provide an adequate alternative history since it essential if you think the one provided is inadequate.

Please don't waste our time with pleas of not having the burden of proof since a lack of a history is not the same as there being no God

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Ah so you have gone for the declaring your stupidity option, Vlad. Brave.


Quite a difference between material, something that has a physical appearance, and naturalistic, something that is assumed to be within a natural cause and effect.

Please stop abusing terms like a Catholic priest abusing a random child.

I cannot continue in a debating group that has you as a member.
Either you go or I do.

[Nearly Sane]

Can you tell me how I am being 'misunderstood' about the study of history? Can you tell me, Vlad, how a supernatural claim can be investigated using the study of history, which is methodologically naturalistic? Will you answer this time? Or as many hundreds of time evade and lie? Why do you lie so much?

[Nearly Sane]

Ah so you have gone for the declaring your stupidity option, Vlad. Brave.


Quite a difference between material, something that has a physical appearance, and naturalistic, something that is assumed to be within a natural cause and effect.

Please stop abusing terms like a Catholic priest abusing a random child.

I cannot continue in a debating group that has you as a member.
Either you go or I do.

Brave Sir Vlad ran away, ran away

[jeremyp]

I cannot continue in a debating group that has you as a member.
Either you go or I do.

Sorry to see you go.  You have been quite entertaining, if not coherent.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I cannot continue in a debating group that has you as a member.
Either you go or I do.

Sorry to see you go.  You have been quite entertaining,

You haven't.

[jeremyp]

I cannot continue in a debating group that has you as a member.
Either you go or I do.

Sorry to see you go.  You have been quite entertaining,

You haven't.

You're still here.  I thought you were leaving.  I think, to qualify as a Floo Flounce, you do actually have to stop posting for a bit.

[Shaker]

He's threatened to leave before, and (of course) didn't.

There ought to be one of those internet laws about it, I reckon.

[Nearly Sane]

He's threatened to leave before, and (of course) didn't.

There ought to be one of those internet laws about it, I reckon.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Internet_Law

[Nearly Sane]

To be fair to Vlad he has opened a battle of wills to decide who goes. Bye, bye, Vlad.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

He's threatened to leave before, and (of course) didn't.

There ought to be one of those internet laws about it, I reckon.

You were a long time gone from this forum as I recall, Sooty and arrived as Hillside left...or is that him with his hand controlling you?

[Nearly Sane]

To be completely clear, I hope Vlad stays. Despite his continual lying, and the amount of random fucking of the English language, he is a poster that adds to.the forum.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

To be fair to Vlad he has opened a battle of wills to decide who goes. Bye, bye, Vlad.

I'm probably the only one out of you and me who can find the door.

[Nearly Sane]

He's threatened to leave before, and (of course) didn't.

There ought to be one of those internet laws about it, I reckon.

You were a long time gone from this forum as I recall, Sooty and arrived as Hillside left...or is that him with his hand controlling you?

Why do you indulge in this cheap, laughable nonsense, Vlad?

[Nearly Sane]

To be fair to Vlad he has opened a battle of wills to decide who goes. Bye, bye, Vlad.

I'm probably the only one out of you and me who can find the door.

You seen to be struggling here.

[Shaker]

You were a long time gone from this forum as I recall

That's correct.

What does it have to do with your announced flounce and the fact that you're still here?

[Shaker]

To be completely clear, I hope Vlad stays. Despite his continual lying, and the amount of random fucking of the English language, he is a poster that adds to.the forum.

... and what he usually adds is 'philosophical naturalism' every other bastard post.

[Andy]

He's threatened to leave before, and (of course) didn't.

There ought to be one of those internet laws about it, I reckon.

You were a long time gone from this forum as I recall, Sooty and arrived as Hillside left...or is that him with his hand controlling you?

Why do you indulge in this cheap, laughable nonsense, Vlad?

Someone tell him to get on stage quick before it wears off...

[Walt Zingmatilder]

You were a long time gone from this forum as I recall

That's correct.

What does it have to do with your announced flounce and the fact that you're still here?

I've asked Sane to resign and I'm giving him adequate time to sever his support networks on here and establish them elsewhere.

[Nearly Sane]

Points to Andy

[Shaker]

Don't think it's gonna happen, old fruit. Now, since you said it was him or you ...