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« Reply #75 on: July 23, 2015, 04:33:14 PM »
A bit of self help is not a bad thing, imo!

And no doubt you think that the poor are to blame for their poverty.   I'd better stop, this is just too depressing. 
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« Reply #76 on: July 23, 2015, 04:33:26 PM »
God, this is depressing, listening to this Osborne-type demonizing of the poor, sorry, the scroungers.   It seems to me like a huge moral decline we are witnessing, a sort of break-up of community and mutual help.  Back to the Victorian age,  I suppose, and self-help.  Help.  Is there any way back from this?

It's an un-written constituent of Tory thinking to behave as Osborne is now. It won't  change.  Same old, same old with them:  the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.  It's in progress around us now.
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« Reply #77 on: July 23, 2015, 04:36:31 PM »
A bit of self help is not a bad thing, imo!


No one disagrees with you. Also, a bit of help is not a bad thing. Do you disagree?

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« Reply #78 on: July 23, 2015, 04:37:32 PM »
A bit of self help is not a bad thing, imo!

And no doubt you think that the poor are to blame for their poverty.   I'd better stop, this is just too depressing.

Sometimes they are.

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« Reply #79 on: July 23, 2015, 04:38:31 PM »


And no doubt you think that the poor are to blame for their poverty.   

Sometimes they are.

Really? How much of the time? In what circumstances?

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« Reply #80 on: July 23, 2015, 04:39:23 PM »
A bit of self help is not a bad thing, imo!


No one disagrees with you. Also, a bit of help is not a bad thing. Do you disagree?

I don't disagree with giving people a helping hand, providing they are prepared to use it wisely.

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« Reply #81 on: July 23, 2015, 04:40:26 PM »
A bit of self help is not a bad thing, imo!


No one disagrees with you. Also, a bit of help is not a bad thing. Do you disagree?

I don't disagree with giving people a helping hand, providing they are prepared to use it wisely.

And you are here to help us all by judging what is wise!

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« Reply #82 on: July 23, 2015, 04:40:45 PM »


Floo always reminds me of the old "I"m all right, Jack," attitude.
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« Reply #83 on: July 23, 2015, 04:44:57 PM »


Floo always reminds me of the old "I"m all right, Jack," attitude.

It's worse than that, isn't it?  "I'm all right, and I'm just going to step on Jack's neck, just to make sure he knows he's inferior to me". 
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« Reply #84 on: July 23, 2015, 04:47:06 PM »


Floo always reminds me of the old "I"m all right, Jack," attitude.

It's worse than that, isn't it?  "I'm all right, and I'm just going to step on Jack's neck, just to make sure he knows he's inferior to me".

With her superior attitude, I'm not surprised the servants tried to blow up her house!

(Yes, she had servants)

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« Reply #85 on: July 23, 2015, 04:54:53 PM »


Floo always reminds me of the old "I"m all right, Jack," attitude.

It's worse than that, isn't it?  "I'm all right, and I'm just going to step on Jack's neck, just to make sure he knows he's inferior to me".

That isn't true at all. I have helped many people over the years, and will continue to do so!

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« Reply #86 on: July 23, 2015, 04:57:13 PM »


Floo always reminds me of the old "I"m all right, Jack," attitude.

It's worse than that, isn't it?  "I'm all right, and I'm just going to step on Jack's neck, just to make sure he knows he's inferior to me".

If they get their way, over the next nearly five years, they will not only step on his neck, they will grind it into the dirt. 
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« Reply #87 on: July 23, 2015, 06:10:38 PM »
Must say I do support some of the policies announced in the budget like the cut in benefits cap to a maximum of 23,000 pounds and end to child benefit for more then 2 children but I cannot see how a 40% reduction in public sector can work to implement govt policies esp as those depts with ring fenced budgets like health, education, overseas aid will be spared any cuts.

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« Reply #88 on: July 23, 2015, 06:28:47 PM »


I have just spent some time in the Queen's Medical Centre, Nottingham, and to see the amount of work being done there, and the quality of the care, it is an utter disgrace that those people should have their pay frozen for five years.  I believe they were asking for a massive 1% rise!!
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« Reply #89 on: July 23, 2015, 06:37:09 PM »


I have just spent some time in the Queen's Medical Centre, Nottingham, and to see the amount of work being done there, and the quality of the care, it is an utter disgrace that those people should have their pay frozen for five years.  I believe they were asking for a massive 1% rise!!

Thousands of public sector employees in local govt or home office are unlikely to keep their jobs if a 40% reduction is implemented.

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« Reply #90 on: July 23, 2015, 06:46:21 PM »


I have just spent some time in the Queen's Medical Centre, Nottingham, and to see the amount of work being done there, and the quality of the care, it is an utter disgrace that those people should have their pay frozen for five years.  I believe they were asking for a massive 1% rise!!

Thousands of public sector employees in local govt or home office are unlikely to keep their jobs if a 40% reduction is implemented.

Of our massive, and guaranteed, Foreign Aid Budget, some of the money is spent quite bizarrely:  cash has been squandered finding mates for tropical fish off Africa after being funded by the debt-ridden Foreign Office, etc.  Osborne and Cameron's idea of helping, whilst people here have to use food banks!  It's Alice in Wonderland thinking!
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« Reply #91 on: July 23, 2015, 07:01:15 PM »
Dear Bashers,

The Tories have worked the biggest con in political history, smoke and mirrors at every turn, even if they do rescue the economy ( which they think is the be all and end all ) the British public will have lost, they are the most anti Christian anti British party we have.

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« Reply #92 on: July 23, 2015, 07:07:28 PM »
Well, as I said, I pay 」10  a month for a smartphone, with free internet.   Is that really a luxury?  As others have said, the internet enables access to tons of information, emails, and so on.   I don't think that poor families need that less, in fact, they might need it more, e.g. to look for work, ask for advice, and so on.

Less time on the Internet playing mindless games and more time looking for gainful employment might be a good idea where some are concerned!


(a) they are entitled to entertainment, as are their family, and 」10 a month for a smartphone is a good way of providing that
(b) the internet is not just mindless entertainemnt, it provides access to services and information, and helps people look for jobs

If you have kids at any secondary school (and most primaries) kids can't do their homework without the internet. Many schools local to me make iPads compulsory from year 6; although they often have loan schemes there still has to be access to the net available.

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« Reply #93 on: July 23, 2015, 07:09:13 PM »
Dear Bashers,

The Tories have worked the biggest con in political history, smoke and mirrors at every turn, even if they do rescue the economy ( which they think is the be all and end all ) the British public will have lost, they are the most anti Christian anti British party we have.

Gonnagle.

Gonners,

Based on Margaret Thatcher's thinking, who is one of Cameron's icons!

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« Reply #94 on: July 23, 2015, 07:15:21 PM »
Must say I do support some of the policies announced in the budget like the cut in benefits cap to a maximum of 23,000 pounds and end to child benefit for more then 2 children but I cannot see how a 40% reduction in public sector can work to implement govt policies esp as those depts with ring fenced budgets like health, education, overseas aid will be spared any cuts.



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That cap sounds OK - in theory....till you have a scenario where the parents are disabled, and their children are on family allowance - and housing benefit.
Then, dependant on the severity of the disabilities, 」23,000 may nor be enough.
The disability network has already heard of such cases in London, where the family will have to be split up and the children put into care.
(BTW, one of the parents is multi-disabled through MS, the other as a result of 7/7. Yet this travesty of a government will label them as scroungers.
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« Reply #95 on: July 23, 2015, 08:31:44 PM »
Dear Jim,

Tory thinking, one size fits all, I have no doubt that there are some who scrounge ( a tiny minority ) but genuine cases are being tarred with the same brush, I have a theory that private schools have a convare belt that churns out unthinking, unimaginative, heartless bastards.

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« Reply #96 on: July 23, 2015, 08:50:37 PM »
Dear Jim,

Tory thinking, one size fits all, I have no doubt that there are some who scrounge ( a tiny minority ) but genuine cases are being tarred with the same brush, I have a theory that private schools have a convare belt that churns out unthinking, unimaginative, heartless bastards.

Gonnagle.

Especially Eton!!
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« Reply #97 on: July 23, 2015, 09:06:20 PM »
Dear Jim,

Tory thinking, one size fits all, I have no doubt that there are some who scrounge ( a tiny minority ) but genuine cases are being tarred with the same brush, I have a theory that private schools have a convare belt that churns out unthinking, unimaginative, heartless bastards.

Gonnagle.

Yeah, well not all wealthy people are selfish bastards who get there through treading on others either. Some just get there through hard work.

Do you think my children will emerge from their private school as heartless bastards too?

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« Reply #98 on: July 23, 2015, 09:10:32 PM »
Dear Jim,

Tory thinking, one size fits all, I have no doubt that there are some who scrounge ( a tiny minority ) but genuine cases are being tarred with the same brush, I have a theory that private schools have a convare belt that churns out unthinking, unimaginative, heartless bastards.

Gonnagle.




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Yep!
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« Reply #99 on: July 23, 2015, 09:13:51 PM »
Dear Jim,

Tory thinking, one size fits all, I have no doubt that there are some who scrounge ( a tiny minority ) but genuine cases are being tarred with the same brush, I have a theory that private schools have a convare belt that churns out unthinking, unimaginative, heartless bastards.

Gonnagle.

Yeah, well not all wealthy people are selfish bastards who get there through treading on others either. Some just get there through hard work.

Do you think my children will emerge from their private school as heartless bastards too?



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Too often the Harrow/Eton set are the norm by which people measure the private school, Rhi.
The socialist in me wants to burn them to the ground.
Sometimes this Christian thing's a pain....I'd empty them first, out of compassion.
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