Why Was A New Covenent Required?

[Jack Knave]

Why?

How did God fail to get it right the first time? I mean It is suppose to be the all knowing, super-duper all powerful God.

And going on from this incompetence what makes you think It got it right the last time, 2000 years ago, as they claim?

[BashfulAnthony]

Why?

How did God fail to get it right the first time? I mean It is suppose to be the all knowing, super-duper all powerful God.

And going on from this incompetence what makes you think It got it right the last time, 2000 years ago, as they claim?

God doesn't get it wrong:  people do.  Jesus came to put it right.

[Alien]

Why?

How did God fail to get it right the first time? I mean It is suppose to be the all knowing, super-duper all powerful God.

And going on from this incompetence what makes you think It got it right the last time, 2000 years ago, as they claim?

The question isn't even right. When did you stop beating your wife?

[Hope]

Why?

How did God fail to get it right the first time? I mean It is suppose to be the all knowing, super-duper all powerful God.

What evidence do you have that God got it wrong the first time round?  Could it have been that the Jews got it wrong?

And going on from this incompetence what makes you think It got it right the last time, 2000 years ago, as they claim?

Firstly, what incompetence?  Secondly, can I ask that you use the commonly accepted English pronoun for a sentient being of no specific gender, not 'it'.  Thanks.

[~TW~]

Why?

How did God fail to get it right the first time? I mean It is suppose to be the all knowing, super-duper all powerful God.

And going on from this incompetence what makes you think It got it right the last time, 2000 years ago, as they claim?

 You really are desperate Jack,with a thread like this.It is shame you know nothing about which you write,but it is not a surprise.   

  ~TW~

[torridon]

Why?

How did God fail to get it right the first time? I mean It is suppose to be the all knowing, super-duper all powerful God.

And going on from this incompetence what makes you think It got it right the last time, 2000 years ago, as they claim?

Good doesn't get it wrong:  people do.  Jesus came to put it right.

Still didn't work though did it ?

So God tried to get his message through to mankind via a string of Jewish prophets but it really wasn't working so out of frustration he incarnates his own son to go down and enunciate his message with better clarity telling us that the previous guys had got it largely wrong, God is not some fiery legalistic tyrant at all, he actually really loves everyone, even the damn foreigners and all we have to do is believe that and we can live forever.

It's still not working though is it. There is too much room for misinterpretation, too much scope for mistranslation and mistake in that sort of communication, and most people still find the message implausible.  God should have foreseen that and devised a better means of communication, not so vulnerable to debate and confusion.

[floo]

Why?

How did God fail to get it right the first time? I mean It is suppose to be the all knowing, super-duper all powerful God.

What evidence do you have that God got it wrong the first time round?  Could it have been that the Jews got it wrong?

And going on from this incompetence what makes you think It got it right the last time, 2000 years ago, as they claim?

Firstly, what incompetence?  Secondly, can I ask that you use the commonly accepted English pronoun for a sentient being of no specific gender, not 'it'.  Thanks.

If the deity was responsible for creation then it screwed up BIG TIME when it devised human nature. But maybe that was its aim all along so it could enjoy human suffering!

[Leonard James]

It's still not working though is it. There is too much room for misinterpretation, too much scope for mistranslation and mistake in that sort of communication, and most people still find the message implausible.  God should have foreseen that and devised a better means of communication, not so vulnerable to debate and confusion.

Exactly! How could such a wise being as "God" is supposed to be make such a balls-up of getting his message across?

That people are still taken in by the story is laughable, and desperately sad at the same time.   

[ad_orientem]

Why?

How did God fail to get it right the first time? I mean It is suppose to be the all knowing, super-duper all powerful God.

And going on from this incompetence what makes you think It got it right the last time, 2000 years ago, as they claim?

I would argue that it always was just meant to be a precursor to a newer and better covenant.

[floo]

Why?

How did God fail to get it right the first time? I mean It is suppose to be the all knowing, super-duper all powerful God.

And going on from this incompetence what makes you think It got it right the last time, 2000 years ago, as they claim?

I would argue that it always was just meant to be a precursor to a newer and better covenant.

Why didn't the deity get it right the first time?

[ad_orientem]

Why?

How did God fail to get it right the first time? I mean It is suppose to be the all knowing, super-duper all powerful God.

And going on from this incompetence what makes you think It got it right the last time, 2000 years ago, as they claim?

I would argue that it always was just meant to be a precursor to a newer and better covenant.

Why didn't the deity get it right the first time?

Right? It was "right" but only for a certain people for a certain time.

[jeremyp]

Secondly, can I ask that you use the commonly accepted English pronoun for a sentient being of no specific gender

If God is so great why did she get it wrong first time round and why did she have to issue a second covenant?

[floo]

Secondly, can I ask that you use the commonly accepted English pronoun for a sentient being of no specific gender

If God is so great why did she get it wrong first time round and why did she have to issue a second covenant?

If the deity was female there wouldn't have been an issue, she would have got it right first time around!

[Hope]

Secondly, can I ask that you use the commonly accepted English pronoun for a sentient being of no specific gender

If God is so great why did she get it wrong first time round and why did she have to issue a second covenant?

Sorry jeremy, 'she' is gender-specific in English, and as such, it is no better than 'it'.  Mind you, as the Jews knew, God was both male and female in being, hence of the 144 Jewish names for God 72 are female and 72 are male.

[Hope]

If the deity was female there wouldn't have been an issue, she would have got it right first time around!

Do you have any evidence that supports your claim that he (in its proper English sense) didn't get things right the first time round?

[BashfulAnthony]

In reply to all the ignorant posts made here:  as I said earlier  ( M1. Do people actually read posts?  Or are they just unable to understand?)  Jesus came to give us the New Covenant, which He did with the utmost clarity.  It is people who fail to appreciate what is asked, not the fault of God.  They ailed in OT times, not surprisingly, the majority still do;  or care not enough.  Of course, there are those atheists who simply assert that God is wrong, never that people are misguided.

[Shaker]

I'd be very interested for you to produce an atheist who thinks that God was/is wrong, as opposed to non-existent (which is generally the definition of an atheist).

[BashfulAnthony]

I'd be very interested for you to produce an atheist who thinks that God was/is wrong, as opposed to non-existent (which is generally the definition of an atheist).

Still blathering about God.  Do give up, and save me the time and effort of having to refute the codswallop you all produce.

[Shaker]

I've never known you to put any time and effort into refuting anything, so I can't see you starting now.

[BashfulAnthony]

I've never known you to put any time and effort into refuting anything, so I can't see you starting now.

So what have you been reading these last x years?  As I just said:  you clearly do not read posts , or simply fail to understand. 

[Gordon]

Of course, there are those atheists who simply assert that God is wrong, never that people are misguided.

Not this one: atheists don't hold beliefs about Gods, and tend to reject the basis of the beliefs that are held by theists.

I'm quite happy to say that people are often misguided: this seems to be self-evident throughout history.

[Shaker]

I'd be very interested for you to produce an atheist who thinks that God was/is wrong, as opposed to non-existent (which is generally the definition of an atheist).

Still blathering about God.  Do give up, and save me the time and effort of having to refute the codswallop you all produce.

Not blathering about God; highlighting an illogical statement of yours regarding atheists thinking that God was/is wrong, when atheists by definition don't believe in a God to be wrong (or right, or anything) in the first place.

[Shaker]

It's still not working though is it. There is too much room for misinterpretation, too much scope for mistranslation and mistake in that sort of communication, and most people still find the message implausible.  God should have foreseen that and devised a better means of communication, not so vulnerable to debate and confusion.

Exactly! How could such a wise being as "God" is supposed to be make such a balls-up of getting his message across?

That people are still taken in by the story is laughable, and desperately sad at the same time.   

You'd think an entity capable of creating a universe out of nothing would find that sort of thing a doddle, wouldn't you?

[BashfulAnthony]

I'd be very interested for you to produce an atheist who thinks that God was/is wrong, as opposed to non-existent (which is generally the definition of an atheist).

Still blathering about God.  Do give up, and save me the time and effort of having to refute the codswallop you all produce.

Not blathering about God; highlighting an illogical statement of yours regarding atheists thinking that God was/is wrong, when atheists by definition don't believe in a God to be wrong (or right, or anything) in the first place.

So, once again ( If I only had a pound for the times I've said that!),  why are you here, discussing something you don't believe exists!!

[torridon]

I'd be very interested for you to produce an atheist who thinks that God was/is wrong, as opposed to non-existent (which is generally the definition of an atheist).

Still blathering about God.  Do give up, and save me the time and effort of having to refute the codswallop you all produce.

Not blathering about God; highlighting an illogical statement of yours regarding atheists thinking that God was/is wrong, when atheists by definition don't believe in a God to be wrong (or right, or anything) in the first place.

So, once again ( If I only had a pound for the times I've said that!),  why are you here, discussing something you don't believe exists!!

Gods don't exist, but beliefs do.

That is why we are here.