Satan statue

[Sriram]

Hi everyone,

Here is a link about a Satan statue erected by the Satanic Temple in Detroit.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33682878

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A controversial statue unveiled by the Satanic Temple at a secret ceremony in Detroit has attracted protests. But who is the goat-headed figure? And what do the elements of the statue symbolise?

The bronze statue is nearly 9ft tall and depicts a winged hermaphrodite known as Baphomet, flanked by two smiling children. It cost $100,000 (£64,000) to make and hundreds of Satanists turned out to see it unveiled.

Long term, the Satanic Temple wants to move the piece 900 miles (1,450km) south-west and erect it opposite a Ten Commandments monument outside Oklahoma City's Capitol Building.

The Baphomet will "complement and contrast" the Christian commandments which include "unconstitutional prohibitions against free speech and free exercise of religion," according to the organisation.

"Our statue will serve as a beacon calling for compassion and empathy among all living creatures," says Lucien Greaves, the group's co-founder.

He hopes people of all ages will "sit on the lap of Satan for inspiration and contemplation... It's a nice little tourist attraction. People would travel a great distance to see it."

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Any views?

Sriram

[Shaker]

Seems like a good example of freedom of religion in action as far as I can see. If you can have Christian crosses and Islamic crescents all over the place, Satanists have to be catered for as well.

All or none. I'd rather it was none, but in the meantime, all will do.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Sriram,

Boy!! That blokes got the lot, horns, wings and he looks like he works out, is gym membership included when you join this religion.

Gonnagle.

[Udayana]

I like it, but they should have kept the breasts.

Symbolism that may provide some "balance" in that "out of balance" nation.

[Leonard James]

Good grief! What fools some people are. 

[Udayana]

Come on Len! Wouldn't you like a version in your front garden? Cool or wot? 

[Leonard James]

Come on Len! Wouldn't you like a version in your front garden? Cool or wot? 

Good grief no! I've never been one for garden gnomes and such, preferring to see stuff growing naturally.

But if it attracts tourists and makes some money out of them, it has its uses. 

[Rhiannon]

The only thing that annoys me is it will attract lots of comments about the evils of paganism from muppet Christian fundies.

[SweetPea]

Sriram, it's a reflection of the society/world that we live in, and the two children gazing up at it is quite nauseating.

[Shaker]

Sriram, it's a reflection of the society/world that we live in

Equality for all religious beliefs, you mean. (That's all of them, not just yours, which is only one amongst many). Yes, it is.

[ippy]

Hi everyone,

Here is a link about a Satan statue erected by the Satanic Temple in Detroit.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33682878

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A controversial statue unveiled by the Satanic Temple at a secret ceremony in Detroit has attracted protests. But who is the goat-headed figure? And what do the elements of the statue symbolise?

The bronze statue is nearly 9ft tall and depicts a winged hermaphrodite known as Baphomet, flanked by two smiling children. It cost $100,000 (£64,000) to make and hundreds of Satanists turned out to see it unveiled.

Long term, the Satanic Temple wants to move the piece 900 miles (1,450km) south-west and erect it opposite a Ten Commandments monument outside Oklahoma City's Capitol Building.

The Baphomet will "complement and contrast" the Christian commandments which include "unconstitutional prohibitions against free speech and free exercise of religion," according to the organisation.

"Our statue will serve as a beacon calling for compassion and empathy among all living creatures," says Lucien Greaves, the group's co-founder.

He hopes people of all ages will "sit on the lap of Satan for inspiration and contemplation... It's a nice little tourist attraction. People would travel a great distance to see it."

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Any views?

Sriram

What controversy Siriram? All it is is just another bunch of nutters, humour them.

ippy 

[SweetPea]

Sriram, it's a reflection of the society/world that we live in

Equality for all religious beliefs, you mean. (That's all of them, not just yours, which is only one amongst many). Yes, it is.

Well, I guess you being an atheist will see it like that.

[floo]

If you can have statues of Jesus, why not one of dear sweet Satan?

[Shaker]

Sriram, it's a reflection of the society/world that we live in

Equality for all religious beliefs, you mean. (That's all of them, not just yours, which is only one amongst many). Yes, it is.

Well, I guess you being an atheist will see it like that.

What other way of seeing it is there? The last I heard quite a lot of religious folk are quite keen on the idea of religious freedom as well, given that fairness demands equal treatment for all religions and the freedom by which they practice their faith is the same extended to others.

[Udayana]

If you can have statues of Jesus, why not one of dear sweet Satan?

Or why not even nasty Satan?

In Bali there are demons on almost every street corner.
 

[OH MY WORLD!]

Rhi,
I've never heard that before. A MUPPET CHRISTIAN FUNDIE!!  Great screaming ghosts, you're a HOOT! And very muppet acting yourself when it has to do with Christianity, I must tell ya.

[Rhiannon]

Rhi,
I've never heard that before. A MUPPET CHRISTIAN FUNDIE!!  Great screaming ghosts, you're a HOOT! And very muppet acting yourself when it has to do with Christianity, I must tell ya.

Why? That's not offensive to Christians. The vast majority are intelligent enough to understand there is no link between paganism and satanism.

[Sassy]

Seems like a good example of freedom of religion in action as far as I can see. If you can have Christian crosses and Islamic crescents all over the place, Satanists have to be catered for as well.

All or none. I'd rather it was none, but in the meantime, all will do.

Well spoken in error on the part of the ignorant atheist who sees both as false...


The wise err in caution when such a thing h"It contains all these binary opposites -

Some scholars believe "Baphometh" was simply a corruption of "Mahomet" - the Prophet Muhammad.

"It contains all these binary opposites - above and below, part animal, part human. Male and female," says Greaves.

The forces of nature binary opposites... but life and death how does it represent those...

God is life and Satan is death.


King James
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

What do you think Shaker.... could you be easily coaxed into believing the false things.

[Shaker]

I haven't the faintest idea what on earth you're babbling about. Try it again, only this time in English.

[Sassy]

The only thing that annoys me is it will attract lots of comments about the evils of paganism from muppet Christian fundies.

Grow up. You already know that even some atheist view paganism as being bizarre to say the least when it comes to it's foundations and history. The Christians come under far more attack than paganism.  Fundies are no more of  a muppet than pagans,atheists and satanist. 

It is bloody UGLY that is the truth. It comes to something when a human being thinks Satan looks like a bloody goat and even worse when they build him looking so...

The outward appearance of  a statue is like children playing house. The real power of black magic is not found in such foolish public displays of here we are look at us.
They obviously find Christianity a threat as they want to place it facing the 10 commandments... Bit like using a chocolate fire guard... It melts and reveals how futile it really was to place such belief it could be useful....

[Sassy]

Sriram, it's a reflection of the society/world that we live in, and the two children gazing up at it is quite nauseating.

I guess those being lost won't think it anything but harmless..

[Shaker]

The Christians come under far more attack than paganism.

Deservedly so, since there are very good reasons for that.

[Sassy]

Rhi,
I've never heard that before. A MUPPET CHRISTIAN FUNDIE!!  Great screaming ghosts, you're a HOOT! And very muppet acting yourself when it has to do with Christianity, I must tell ya.

Why? That's not offensive to Christians. The vast majority are intelligent enough to understand there is no link between paganism and satanism.

YOU are wrong... Paganism tried to remove the link some years ago.The intelligent know that your denial is basically sticking your fingers in yours ear and denying it to yourself.

Wicker is a good place to start....

Wicker sacrificed to sun god... sun god also called Satan. Lucifer babylonian sun God.

Because the pagans tried to remove the attachment it is still true they were associated...

Nothing to do with intelligence just history.

[Sassy]

I haven't the faintest idea what on earth you're babbling about. Try it again, only this time in English.

There it is... Shaker knows absolutely NOTHING  about the bible end time teachings... TUT TUT TUT

[Shaker]

Rhi,
I've never heard that before. A MUPPET CHRISTIAN FUNDIE!!  Great screaming ghosts, you're a HOOT! And very muppet acting yourself when it has to do with Christianity, I must tell ya.

Why? That's not offensive to Christians. The vast majority are intelligent enough to understand there is no link between paganism and satanism.

YOU are wrong... Paganism tried to remove the link some years ago.The intelligent know that your denial is basically sticking your fingers in yours ear and denying it to yourself.

Wicker is a good place to start....

Wicker sacrificed to sun god... sun god also called Satan. Lucifer babylonian sun God.

Because the pagans tried to remove the attachment it is still true they were associated...

Nothing to do with intelligence just history.

Your post as usual has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence - the word is Wicca, not wicker