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Re: Satan statue
« Reply #75 on: August 01, 2015, 11:30:08 PM »
A-theism
Against theism ie god(s)

Its about belief.

Atheism is a LACK of belief NOT a belief!
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« Reply #76 on: August 01, 2015, 11:33:31 PM »
A-theism
Against theism ie god(s)

Its about belief.

Atheism is a LACK of belief NOT a belief!

It varies, doesn't it? For some it is an absence of belief, but for others it is a specific declaration that gods do not exist.

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« Reply #77 on: August 01, 2015, 11:55:37 PM »
A-theism
Against theism ie god(s)

Its about belief.

Atheism is a LACK of belief NOT a belief!

It varies, doesn't it? For some it is an absence of belief, but for others it is a specific declaration that gods do not exist.

No, it doesn't vary. All have an absence of belief in gods, just not all declare gods don't exist.

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« Reply #78 on: August 02, 2015, 12:48:02 AM »
A-theism
Against theism ie god(s)

Its about belief.

Atheism is a LACK of belief NOT a belief!

It varies, doesn't it? For some it is an absence of belief, but for others it is a specific declaration that gods do not exist.

No, it doesn't vary. All have an absence of belief in gods, just not all declare gods don't exist.

After all the years of "debate,"  you guys still can't decide exactly what an atheist is! 
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« Reply #79 on: August 02, 2015, 12:53:16 AM »
OOHHH Interesting.
Would you please elaborate???

If you were referring to my comment, certainly.

I believe that there are multiple deities. I do not believe in one almighty deity who is responsible for everything that exists.

I believe that deity is present in all things but not a single deity.

I do not believe that all nature, that the whole universe is deity, a single deity.
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« Reply #80 on: August 02, 2015, 12:54:46 AM »
Come on Len! Wouldn't you like a version in your front garden? Cool or wot?  ;D

Do you think if I put it in my front garden it might scare off the Jehovah's witnesses and Mormons ?

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Bloody typical!


I know someone who tried telling them she was a pagan to make them go away. The next day she opened her curtains to find a group trying to exorcise her from the front lawn.
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« Reply #81 on: August 02, 2015, 12:56:37 AM »
Howdya work THAT one out then??????
Atheism is a belief in NO god but pantheism believes many, no?

No! Pantheism believes the the entire universe, all nature IS God.

Many gods is polytheiism!
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« Reply #82 on: August 02, 2015, 12:57:31 AM »
OOHHH Interesting.
Would you please elaborate???

If you were referring to my comment, certainly.

I believe that there are multiple deities. I do not believe in one almighty deity who is responsible for everything that exists.

I believe that deity is present in all things but not a single deity.

I do not believe that all nature, that the whole universe is deity, a single deity.

What precisely do you mean by "deity?"
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« Reply #83 on: August 02, 2015, 01:03:18 AM »
OOHHH Interesting.
Would you please elaborate???

If you were referring to my comment, certainly.

I believe that there are multiple deities. I do not believe in one almighty deity who is responsible for everything that exists.

I believe that deity is present in all things but not a single deity.

I do not believe that all nature, that the whole universe is deity, a single deity.

What precisely do you mean by "deity?"

One or more of the Gods and Goddesses that make up my personal pantheon of deities.
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« Reply #84 on: August 02, 2015, 01:06:19 AM »
OOHHH Interesting.
Would you please elaborate???

If you were referring to my comment, certainly.

I believe that there are multiple deities. I do not believe in one almighty deity who is responsible for everything that exists.

I believe that deity is present in all things but not a single deity.

I do not believe that all nature, that the whole universe is deity, a single deity.

What precisely do you mean by "deity?"

One or more of the Gods and Goddesses that make up my personal pantheon of deities.


Help me here.  Do you see these gods as "beings," or spirits, or what?
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« Reply #85 on: August 02, 2015, 01:14:03 AM »
OOHHH Interesting.
Would you please elaborate???

If you were referring to my comment, certainly.

I believe that there are multiple deities. I do not believe in one almighty deity who is responsible for everything that exists.

I believe that deity is present in all things but not a single deity.

I do not believe that all nature, that the whole universe is deity, a single deity.

What precisely do you mean by "deity?"

One or more of the Gods and Goddesses that make up my personal pantheon of deities.


Help me here.  Do you see these gods as "beings," or spirits, or what?

No, they are entities, like yours, there, but invisible most of the time - usually until you call upon them. Rather like yours.
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« Reply #86 on: August 02, 2015, 01:30:29 AM »
OOHHH Interesting.
Would you please elaborate???

If you were referring to my comment, certainly.

I believe that there are multiple deities. I do not believe in one almighty deity who is responsible for everything that exists.

I believe that deity is present in all things but not a single deity.

I do not believe that all nature, that the whole universe is deity, a single deity.

What precisely do you mean by "deity?"

One or more of the Gods and Goddesses that make up my personal pantheon of deities.


Help me here.  Do you see these gods as "beings," or spirits, or what?

No, they are entities, like yours, there, but invisible most of the time - usually until you call upon them. Rather like yours.

So, correct me if I'm wrong:  your "entity" could be the self-same as mine, just perceived in a slightly different manner?
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Re: Satan statue
« Reply #87 on: August 02, 2015, 01:50:57 AM »
Howdya work THAT one out then??????
Atheism is a belief in NO god but pantheism believes many, no?
No, you're mixing it up with polytheism - that's the belief in many gods.
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« Reply #88 on: August 02, 2015, 05:45:06 AM »
A-theism
Against theism ie god(s)

Its about belief.

Atheism is a LACK of belief NOT a belief!

It varies, doesn't it? For some it is an absence of belief, but for others it is a specific declaration that gods do not exist.

No, it doesn't vary. All have an absence of belief in gods, just not all declare gods don't exist.

Well that's two variants. Those who declare no gods exist are stating a definite position, no?

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« Reply #89 on: August 02, 2015, 05:52:53 AM »
Regardless of how a deity looks...I think the morals and behaviour patterns encouraged by the group is more important IMO.

If the deity looks nice, gentle and handsome...but if the group encourages divisiveness, pride, selfishness, condemnation of others, violence and so on...then the deity is demonic.

If a deity looks ugly and harsh.... but the group encourages inclusiveness, selflessness, humility, tolerance, peace and nonviolence...then the deity is godly.

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Re: Satan statue
« Reply #90 on: August 02, 2015, 07:29:21 AM »
Hi Rose,

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There is a certain veiw that bad luck can't happen on its own and someone else is always at fault,

Really? Seriously?  ;D

So who is at fault if lightning strikes you?

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« Reply #91 on: August 02, 2015, 08:22:51 AM »
Howdya work THAT one out then??????
Atheism is a belief in NO god but pantheism believes many, no?

No! Pantheism believes the the entire universe, all nature IS God.

Many gods is polytheiism!

Sorry, YES, THAT'S what I meant, thanks...

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« Reply #92 on: August 02, 2015, 08:36:06 AM »
If a deity looks ugly and harsh.... but the group encourages inclusiveness, selflessness, humility, tolerance, peace and nonviolence...then the deity is godly.
I suppose it depends on what is included within inclusiveness.

By the way, Sriram, from what I have read of world belief systems, Christianity is the only one that was for the whole of humanity from its very inception.
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« Reply #93 on: August 02, 2015, 08:38:42 AM »
If a deity looks ugly and harsh.... but the group encourages inclusiveness, selflessness, humility, tolerance, peace and nonviolence...then the deity is godly.
I suppose it depends on what is included within inclusiveness.

By the way, Sriram, from what I have read of world belief systems, Christianity is the only one that was for the whole of humanity from its very inception.

And it so very kindly tried to FORCE itself on everybody whether they liked it or not.
Just wanting to save their poor damned souls, eh????

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« Reply #94 on: August 02, 2015, 08:44:51 AM »
Howdya work THAT one out then??????
Atheism is a belief in NO god but pantheism believes many, no?

No, pantheism is the belief that everything is God, in effect, the Universe and God are the same thing. 
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Re: Satan statue
« Reply #95 on: August 02, 2015, 08:46:02 AM »
A-theism
Against theism ie god(s)

The "a" means without, not against.
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« Reply #96 on: August 02, 2015, 08:54:39 AM »
Hi Rose,

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There is a certain veiw that bad luck can't happen on its own and someone else is always at fault,

Really? Seriously?  ;D

So who is at fault if lightning strikes you?

Well according to his card, your neighbour might be holding a grudge and have performed some evil magics.

Hexes.

He was offering to cleanse you of them, as his card/ leaflet suggested a run of bad luck was caused by bad vibes from neighbours etc

Oh dearie me, what rot!

Sadly, the saying goes that there is one born every minute!  :(

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« Reply #97 on: August 02, 2015, 09:15:27 AM »
Rhi,
I've never heard that before. A MUPPET CHRISTIAN FUNDIE!!  Great screaming ghosts, you're a HOOT! And very muppet acting yourself when it has to do with Christianity, I must tell ya.

Why? That's not offensive to Christians. The vast majority are intelligent enough to understand there is no link between paganism and satanism.

YOU are wrong... Paganism tried to remove the link some years ago.The intelligent know that your denial is basically sticking your fingers in yours ear and denying it to yourself.

Wicker is a good place to start....

Wicker sacrificed to sun god... sun god also called Satan. Lucifer babylonian sun God.

Because the pagans tried to remove the attachment it is still true they were associated...

Nothing to do with intelligence just history.
Your post as usual has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence - the word is Wicca, not wicker  ::)

I know... It was simply a gliche I had been reading something previously. Just like when speaking we say a wrong word because we are thinking of something else.
I am caring for two people at present and not getting much sleep. So I am entitled to make errors.

But what is your excuse... Why reply to a spelling mistake and not the contents.
I know what I would rather be seen to have done... the spelling error rather than the inability to reply to the content... ::)

It also proves I was speaking from myself not copying from a site/s doesn't it.
Which you do when it comes to Christianity. My excuse is exhaustion what is yours for not being able to produce an argument for the post?

Admit it.. you knew I was right... and you had nothing to come back with because it was true. The same reason you never corrected the other person yourself. Not in your best interest was it to show that atheists and pagans are selective in what they accept as truth... Still want to make comments on a spelling error amounting to lack of intelligence.. I would question your intelligence to suggest spelling errors are a reflection of anything but a simple mistake...
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Re: Satan statue
« Reply #98 on: August 02, 2015, 09:24:07 AM »
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Re: Satan statue
« Reply #99 on: August 02, 2015, 09:39:14 AM »
OOHHH Interesting.
Would you please elaborate???

If you were referring to my comment, certainly.

I believe that there are multiple deities. I do not believe in one almighty deity who is responsible for everything that exists.

I believe that deity is present in all things but not a single deity.

I do not believe that all nature, that the whole universe is deity, a single deity.

What precisely do you mean by "deity?"

One or more of the Gods and Goddesses that make up my personal pantheon of deities.


Help me here.  Do you see these gods as "beings," or spirits, or what?

No, they are entities, like yours, there, but invisible most of the time - usually until you call upon them. Rather like yours.

So, correct me if I'm wrong:  your "entity" could be the self-same as mine, just perceived in a slightly different manner?

Get this once and for all BA - my deities are NOTHING like yours.

Aye, some are not the most friendly at times but they say what they mean, they mean what they say, they do not wrap it up in a load of shit so that they need a bunch of know-it-all priests to "interpret" their words.

If you fuck up your punishment will fit the crime (karma and the "three-fold law) not OTT eternal damnation in the Fires of Hell just for saying "I do not believe in you" and "I do not need you to "save" me".
The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

An it harm none, do what you will; an it harm some, do what you must!