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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #75 on: August 07, 2015, 10:49:42 PM »
As for the issue of homosexuality, we can reference the fact that homosexuality has been regarded with revulsion through history and across cultures for good reasons.
What "reasons" were these and why were they "good" according to you?

Because it is practised by Catholic priests?
The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

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« Reply #76 on: August 07, 2015, 10:51:43 PM »
As for the issue of homosexuality, we can reference the fact that homosexuality has been regarded with revulsion through history and across cultures for good reasons.
What "reasons" were these and why were they "good" according to you?

Because it is practised by Catholic priests?

eh? Is there more homosexuality among Catholic priests than among other groups?

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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #77 on: August 08, 2015, 03:29:32 AM »
You do realize the New Testament also condemns homosexuality Rhi? Read the first chapter of Romans for a starter. (verse27)

These are the words of Paul, not Jesus.
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« Reply #78 on: August 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AM »
As for the issue of homosexuality, we can reference the fact that homosexuality has been regarded with revulsion through history and across cultures for good reasons.
What "reasons" were these and why were they "good" according to you?

ETA: I see Gordon has asked the same question. I'm sure he'll be every bit as interested in a reply as I am.

I am too.

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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #79 on: August 08, 2015, 12:02:43 PM »
That makes three of us. Let's see if Hoppity returns to this thread with his (in his opinion) "good reasons."
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« Reply #80 on: August 08, 2015, 12:36:34 PM »
You do realize the New Testament also condemns homosexuality Rhi? Read the first chapter of Romans for a starter. (verse27)

So what? The Bible is WRONG about many things homosexuality being one of them! ::)

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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2015, 01:30:10 PM »
You do realize the New Testament also condemns homosexuality Rhi? Read the first chapter of Romans for a starter. (verse27)

So what? The Bible is WRONG about many things homosexuality being one of them! ::)

With your vast and all-encompassing knowledge of the New Testament, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?

(Doesn't expect an answer  --  mainly because she won't have one!)
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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #82 on: August 08, 2015, 03:30:06 PM »
You do realize the New Testament also condemns homosexuality Rhi? Read the first chapter of Romans for a starter. (verse27)

So what? The Bible is WRONG about many things homosexuality being one of them! ::)

With your vast and all-encompassing knowledge of the New Testament, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?

(Doesn't expect an answer  --  mainly because she won't have one!)

It does not matter one iota what Jesus does or does not say about homosexuality.

We are talking about what the Bible says, because that is what you always quote as your authority for Christian values on everything.
The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #83 on: August 08, 2015, 03:33:29 PM »
You do realize the New Testament also condemns homosexuality Rhi? Read the first chapter of Romans for a starter. (verse27)

So what? The Bible is WRONG about many things homosexuality being one of them! ::)

With your vast and all-encompassing knowledge of the New Testament, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?

(Doesn't expect an answer  --  mainly because she won't have one!)

It does not matter one iota what Jesus does or does not say about homosexuality.

We are talking about what the Bible says, because that is what you always quote as your authority for Christian values on everything.

I quote Jesus as my authority, and always have.  Get it right.
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« Reply #84 on: August 08, 2015, 03:36:00 PM »
Not surprisingly Jesus doesn't say anything about homosexuality, possibly because he was gay himself, and no bad thing if he had been!

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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #85 on: August 08, 2015, 03:41:09 PM »
Not surprisingly Jesus doesn't say anything about homosexuality, possibly because he was gay himself, and no bad thing if he had been!

No, He didn't say anything about it.  And your added comment are the words of a numbskull. 
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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #86 on: August 08, 2015, 03:44:16 PM »
Not surprisingly Jesus doesn't say anything about homosexuality, possibly because he was gay himself, and no bad thing if he had been!

No, He didn't say anything about it.  And your added comment are the words of a numbskull.

How do you know he was not gay?

Was he married?
Did he have a girlfriend?
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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« Reply #87 on: August 08, 2015, 03:47:50 PM »
Not surprisingly Jesus doesn't say anything about homosexuality, possibly because he was gay himself, and no bad thing if he had been!

No, He didn't say anything about it.  And your added comment are the words of a numbskull.

How do you know he was not gay?

Was he married?
Did he have a girlfriend?

We don't know the answer to those questions; so to make any assumptions is both invalid and provocative.
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It is my commandment that you love one another."

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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #88 on: August 08, 2015, 03:49:48 PM »
Floo didn't assume it; she stated it as a possibility, which it is.

Only provocative, of course, to somebody who has a problem with homosexuality. Otherwise it's nothing.
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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #89 on: August 08, 2015, 03:50:34 PM »
Not surprisingly Jesus doesn't say anything about homosexuality, possibly because he was gay himself, and no bad thing if he had been!

No, He didn't say anything about it.  And your added comment are the words of a numbskull.

How do you know he was not gay?

Was he married?
Did he have a girlfriend?

We don't know the answer to those questions; so to make any assumptions is both invalid and provocative.

Quite right so equally we do not know if he was gay or not!
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #90 on: August 08, 2015, 03:54:05 PM »
Not surprisingly Jesus doesn't say anything about homosexuality, possibly because he was gay himself, and no bad thing if he had been!

No, He didn't say anything about it.  And your added comment are the words of a numbskull.

How do you know he was not gay?

Was he married?
Did he have a girlfriend?

We don't know the answer to those questions; so to make any assumptions is both invalid and provocative.

Quite right so equally we do not know if he was gay or not!

If you think so, give some sort of evidence to substantiate it.  Anyone can throw casual comments about, without any substance.  And even if it were true:  so what?  Are you anti-gay or something?
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It is my commandment that you love one another."

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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #91 on: August 08, 2015, 03:55:42 PM »
Not surprisingly Jesus doesn't say anything about homosexuality, possibly because he was gay himself, and no bad thing if he had been!

No, He didn't say anything about it.  And your added comment are the words of a numbskull.

How do you know he was not gay?

Was he married?
Did he have a girlfriend?

We don't know the answer to those questions; so to make any assumptions is both invalid and provocative.

Quite right so equally we do not know if he was gay or not!

If you think so, give some sort of evidence to substantiate it.  Anyone can throw casual comments about, without any substance.  And even if it were true:  so what?  Are you anti-gay or something?
That would be like casual comments that someone was a plagiarist without substance.

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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #92 on: August 08, 2015, 03:55:53 PM »
Not surprisingly Jesus doesn't say anything about homosexuality, possibly because he was gay himself, and no bad thing if he had been!

No, He didn't say anything about it.  And your added comment are the words of a numbskull.

How do you know he was not gay?

Was he married?
Did he have a girlfriend?

We don't know the answer to those questions; so to make any assumptions is both invalid and provocative.

Quite right so equally we do not know if he was gay or not!

If you think so, give some sort of evidence to substantiate it.  Anyone can throw casual comments about, without any substance.  And even if it were true:  so what?  Are you anti-gay or something?

Not at all.
I am simply pointing out that it is unknown whether he was gay or not.

Either way it makes no difference to me, but I suspect it would to you, and a lot of Christians.
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #93 on: August 08, 2015, 04:00:30 PM »
Not surprisingly Jesus doesn't say anything about homosexuality, possibly because he was gay himself, and no bad thing if he had been!

No, He didn't say anything about it.  And your added comment are the words of a numbskull.

How do you know he was not gay?

Was he married?
Did he have a girlfriend?

We don't know the answer to those questions; so to make any assumptions is both invalid and provocative.

Quite right so equally we do not know if he was gay or not!

If you think so, give some sort of evidence to substantiate it.  Anyone can throw casual comments about, without any substance.  And even if it were true:  so what?  Are you anti-gay or something?

Not at all.
I am simply pointing out that it is unknown whether he was gay or not.

Either way it makes no difference to me, but I suspect it would to you, and a lot of Christians.

It would not make an iota of difference to me, and you are not justified in assuming any such thing.
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It is my commandment that you love one another."

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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #94 on: August 08, 2015, 04:01:47 PM »
So why did you react so badly when it was suggested he might be?

You have accepted that he might have been I assume?
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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« Reply #95 on: August 08, 2015, 04:05:22 PM »
So why did you react so badly when it was suggested he might be?

You have accepted that he might have been I assume?

I did not react "badly,"  I simply questioned your unsubstantiated comment, so redolent of your usual approach to religion.

I will accept anything which is properly substantiated. 

To repeat myself, on two counts:  if there is proper evidence, I accept that; no problem.  And, again, it does not matter. Why do you think it should?
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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #96 on: August 08, 2015, 04:06:42 PM »
So why did you react so badly when it was suggested he might be?

You have accepted that he might have been I assume?

I did not react "badly,"  I simply questioned your unsubstantiated comment, so redolent of your usual approach to religion.

I will accept anything which is properly substantiated.

I am stating that it is unknown!

That is a fact.
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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« Reply #97 on: August 08, 2015, 04:19:09 PM »
So why did you react so badly when it was suggested he might be?

You have accepted that he might have been I assume?

I did not react "badly,"  I simply questioned your unsubstantiated comment, so redolent of your usual approach to religion.

I will accept anything which is properly substantiated.

I am stating that it is unknown!

That is a fact.

It is unknown whether you are gay, or not.  That is a fact, and it is of no concern to any one else.   As is the case with Jesus.
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It is my commandment that you love one another."

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« Reply #98 on: August 08, 2015, 04:22:56 PM »
Not surprisingly Jesus doesn't say anything about homosexuality, possibly because he was gay himself, and no bad thing if he had been!

No, He didn't say anything about it.  And your added comment are the words of a numbskull.

How do you know he was not gay?

Was he married?
Did he have a girlfriend?

He is supposed to have had a specific disciple whom he loved!

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Re: Do you do any of these things that are banned in the Bible?
« Reply #99 on: August 08, 2015, 04:26:31 PM »
Not surprisingly Jesus doesn't say anything about homosexuality, possibly because he was gay himself, and no bad thing if he had been!

No, He didn't say anything about it.  And your added comment are the words of a numbskull.

How do you know he was not gay?

Was he married?
Did he have a girlfriend?

He is supposed to have had a specific disciple whom he loved!

So?  Are there any women you especially love, and if so, does that make you a lesbian?  And if it did, so what?
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Jesus said to him, 的 am the way, and the truth, and the life.

It is my commandment that you love one another."