The BBC and religious broadcasting.

[ippy]

Something's not right with the BBC on this subject:

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2015/08/bbc-trust--religious-radio-programmes-are-least-popular-and-least-well-received--but-we-wont-change-them

ippy

[Nearly Sane]

Not really sure what they can do.

[Outrider]

Part of their mandate is to deliver 'specialist' programming that otherwise wouldn't be produced by commercial interests.

Religious programming, for me, gets bundled in with the likes of Radio 1, Test Match Special, The Voice and Bob Harris Country - it's well made stuff for other people, the whole of the bandwidth can't appeal to everyone.

O.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Something's not right with the BBC on this subject:

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2015/08/bbc-trust--religious-radio-programmes-are-least-popular-and-least-well-received--but-we-wont-change-them

ippy

Vintage Ippy....Secular British broadcasting be without religious content.

Antitheist podcasts are available.

[Outrider]

Something's not right with the BBC on this subject:

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2015/08/bbc-trust--religious-radio-programmes-are-least-popular-and-least-well-received--but-we-wont-change-them

ippy

Vintage Ippy....Secular British broadcasting be without religious content.

Antitheist podcasts are available.

If you want people to understand what you mean you really need to stop conflating terminology - secular and anti-theist are not synonyms, you can be a theist secularist.

O.

[Hope]

you can be a theist secularist.

I think the correct term is theistic secularist - or, more likely, secular theist.   

[SusanDoris]

It is jjust possible I suppose that the continuation of the religious broadcasting could exasperate a few more people enough so that they look more into wiser and more scientific thinking!

[Outrider]

It is jjust possible I suppose that the continuation of the religious broadcasting could exasperate a few more people enough so that they look more into wiser and more scientific thinking!

I've long since given up on scheduled television - I watch live sport occasionally and Doctor Who, that's about it - everything else I watch when I want on Netflix or DVD.

My lasting memory of religious broadcasting is actually a good one - Sunday evenings used to constitute 'Country Ways'(?) with Jack Hargreaves followed by 'Antiques Roadshow'. The arrival of either Songs of Praise or Highway heralded the end of that particular torment...

O.

[ippy]

Something's not right with the BBC on this subject:

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2015/08/bbc-trust--religious-radio-programmes-are-least-popular-and-least-well-received--but-we-wont-change-them

ippy

Vintage Ippy....Secular British broadcasting be without religious content.

Antitheist podcasts are available.

You've demonstrated yet again that you misunderstand the basics of secularism.

If religion was banned/removed from the BBC,the first thing I would do when I recovered from laughing out loud and had managed to come around back into secular mode, I would be proud to be among the first lot of secular humanists to join in with you on your side demonstrating against such an outrageous ban by the BBC.

Does that help to get you a bit nearer to understanding secularism.

Secularism is for protecting freedom of religion and freedom from religion.

ippy

[Gordon]

Something's not right with the BBC on this subject:

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2015/08/bbc-trust--religious-radio-programmes-are-least-popular-and-least-well-received--but-we-wont-change-them

ippy

I'd imagine that religious programming is part of the BBC charter obligations, and I'd have to say that since there is probably an audience for these programmes I can't see why their needs shouldn't be met by a public service broadcaster.

There are lots of BBC radio programmes that I wouldn't choose to listen to: but personal taste is like that! After all there is no shortage of alternative radio stations these days and, dare I say it, there is always the 'off' switch.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

It is jjust possible I suppose that the continuation of the religious broadcasting could exasperate a few more people enough so that they look more into wiser and more scientific thinking!

There is a difference between knowledge and wisdom which you would know if you had the wisdom and knowledge.

Anyway, I think they should serialise your posts for radio and call it Mrs Fail's diary.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Something's not right with the BBC on this subject:

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2015/08/bbc-trust--religious-radio-programmes-are-least-popular-and-least-well-received--but-we-wont-change-them

ippy

Vintage Ippy....Secular British broadcasting be without religious content.

Antitheist podcasts are available.

You've demonstrated yet again that you misunderstand the basics of secularism.

If religion was banned/removed from the BBC,the first thing I would do when I recovered from laughing out loud and had managed to come around back into secular mode, I would be proud to be among the first lot of secular humanists to join in with you on your side demonstrating against such an outrageous ban by the BBC.

Does that help to get you a bit nearer to understanding secularism.

Secularism is for protecting freedom of religion and freedom from religion.

ippy

Ippy you'd only know what was being broadcast on the BBC if you had your ears on, good buddy.

Would this protest take the form of, say, a blockade of Large trucks, in which case we'd have us a convoy........CONVOY.

[ippy]

Something's not right with the BBC on this subject:

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2015/08/bbc-trust--religious-radio-programmes-are-least-popular-and-least-well-received--but-we-wont-change-them

ippy

I'd imagine that religious programming is part of the BBC charter obligations, and I'd have to say that since there is probably an audience for these programmes I can't see why their needs shouldn't be met by a public service broadcaster.

There are lots of BBC radio programmes that I wouldn't choose to listen to: but personal taste is like that! After all there is no shortage of alternative radio stations these days and, dare I say it, there is always the 'off' switch.

I've no quarrel with religious broadcasting anywhere on the BBC.

It would be quite reasonable to see something like the French have on their state broadcasting Libre Pensee get one hour a month of unchallenged air time.

Yes we do get all sorts of non-religious people on radio and T V, often, but not unchallenged, you'll have a job finding any non-religious person on the BBC unchallenged, unlike religious voices that can be heard on air at will unchallenged if they want it almost any time they ask.

Did you know about the broadcasts several of them, "On BBC Radio Three" about free thinking? It was on in the small hours for about a week some three months ago.

ippy

[Rhiannon]

Whilst the BBC is state funded and has its charter to fulfil then it has to broadcast religious programmes.

I think part of the problem is that the vast majority are unwatchable even if you are religious. The last decent series apart from the Peter Owen Jones one that I can recall from the BBC was Easter Tales with monologues from various characters from the Easter story - it starred Tony Robinson, Helen Baxendale and others.

[ippy]

Whilst the BBC is state funded and has its charter to fulfil then it has to broadcast religious programmes.

I think part of the problem is that the vast majority are unwatchable even if you are religious. The last decent series apart from the Peter Owen Jones one that I can recall from the BBC was Easter Tales with monologues from various characters from the Easter story - it starred Tony Robinson, Helen Baxendale and others.

I'm sure the BBC should have religious broadcasts built into its remit and I can't think why anyone should complain about that.

Have you heard about Thought For The Day broadcast six times a week within BBC radio 4's morning news magazine programme.

T4TD is usually on for about three minutes so it's only a small part of the programme; non-religious people are banned from this small slot as though because they are non-religious they wouldn't have anything to say that's worth hearing but having said that there is no good reason for discriminating against any one group, including religious groups.

It's not the amount of time, it is only three minutes, it's the principle.

ippy     

[ippy]

Something's not right with the BBC on this subject:

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2015/08/bbc-trust--religious-radio-programmes-are-least-popular-and-least-well-received--but-we-wont-change-them

ippy

Vintage Ippy....Secular British broadcasting be without religious content.

Antitheist podcasts are available.

You've demonstrated yet again that you misunderstand the basics of secularism.

If religion was banned/removed from the BBC,the first thing I would do when I recovered from laughing out loud and had managed to come around back into secular mode, I would be proud to be among the first lot of secular humanists to join in with you on your side demonstrating against such an outrageous ban by the BBC.

Does that help to get you a bit nearer to understanding secularism.

Secularism is for protecting freedom of religion and freedom from religion.

ippy

Ippy you'd only know what was being broadcast on the BBC if you had your ears on, good buddy.

Would this protest take the form of, say, a blockade of Large trucks, in which case we'd have us a convoy........CONVOY.

If you're that determined to not understand exactly what secularism is and how it works, well that's up to you.

Do you ever do a serious post?

ippy

[Hope]

The last decent series apart from the Peter Owen Jones one ...

Can't say I recall a decent series from Peter Owen Jones, Rhi; unless you are talking about the settings.  He tends to rely too heavily on controversial ideas as if they are gospel, without setting mainstream ideas alongside them.  As such, he's rather like a sensationalist reporter who fails to report the context, just the headline.

[Shaker]

Can't say I recall a decent series from Peter Owen Jones, Rhi

I can - Extreme Pilgrim.

Around the World in 80 Faiths was too ambitious, trying to do too much in too little time and end up being rather scrappy.

[Hope]

Can't say I recall a decent series from Peter Owen Jones, Rhi

I can - Extreme Pilgrim.

Around the World in 80 Faiths was too ambitious, trying to do too much in too little time and end up being rather scrappy.

I remember the latter quite well, and feel the same about it as you do.  I also remember 'Extreme Pilgrim', though I didn't see the third episode.  I felt that it was all very shallow, with POJ trying to get into the guts of a philosophy in far too short a time to get anywhere.  In fact, that is my opinion on most similar kinds of programme.  All they do is scratch the surface.

[Rhiannon]

Can't say I recall a decent series from Peter Owen Jones, Rhi

I can - Extreme Pilgrim.

Around the World in 80 Faiths was too ambitious, trying to do too much in too little time and end up being rather scrappy.

His two autobiographical books about the priesthood - Bed of Nails and Small Boat, Big Sea - are well worth a read.

[Shaker]

I haven't got those but I did recently get Letters From an Extreme Pilgrim which is extremely good, I thought.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

It is jjust possible I suppose that the continuation of the religious broadcasting could exasperate a few more people enough so that they look more into wiser and more scientific thinking!

I've long since given up on scheduled television - I watch live sport occasionally and Doctor Who, that's about it - everything else I watch when I want on Netflix or DVD.

My lasting memory of religious broadcasting is actually a good one - Sunday evenings used to constitute 'Country Ways'(?) with Jack Hargreaves followed by 'Antiques Roadshow'. The arrival of either Songs of Praise or Highway heralded the end of that particular torment...

O.

FTR I have long found Antiques Roadshow to be very annoying, which is why I don't watch it very much. It is mostly rich people with money and property,but no class or taste,wanting to know how much something they don't particularly like is worth.

[Nearly Sane]

FTR I have long found Antiques Roadshow to be very annoying, which is why I don't watch it very much. It is mostly rich people with money and property,but no class or taste,wanting to know how much something they don't particularly like is worth.

I thought the whole point of it are the moments of schadenfreude when they find out that the hoped for insurance busting item can actually be used to store paint brushes in?

[Udayana]

I thought it was so they could show off their fancy stuff.

Does anyone know why TFTD does not allow non-religious speakers? Is it only because the 3 minutes counts towards the quota for "religious broadcasting"?

[Shaker]

Does anyone know why TFTD does not allow non-religious speakers?

Because of reasons. Now don't ask again.