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Holding out for a hero
« on: September 05, 2015, 08:56:27 AM »
And one supported by candidates for the Republican nomination for President. Good old Mike Huckabee

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34155775

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2015, 09:09:54 AM »
And one supported by candidates for the Republican nomination for President. Good old Mike Huckabee

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34155775

That whole situation is a mess.  The woman refuses to do her job but she can't be fired because she is an elected official. 

If her conscience prevents her from being able to do her job in accordance with the US constitution, she should resign from it.  However, her conscience is selective because she is quite happy to allow divorcees and former adulterers to get married.  There's also the small matter of $80,000 per year.

I will ay one thing in her defence though.  It will probably come up on this thread that she herself is three times divorced and two of her children were the result of an adulterous relationship and therefore she isa hypocrite.  However, all of that preceded her conversion to Christianity, so it doesn't count.
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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2015, 09:17:39 AM »
She has a particular view, so why shouldn't she try and stick to it to the extent that she can?
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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2015, 09:20:34 AM »
She has a particular view, so why shouldn't she try and stick to it to the extent that she can?

Nobody is stopping her from sticking to her view.  Her view is, however, incompatible with the job she was elected to do.  If her conscience prevents her from doing her job, she must resign from it. 
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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2015, 09:22:19 AM »
Well, obviously not. She thinks she is trying to do the job she was elected for.
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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2015, 09:27:52 AM »
If the state objects they can try and impeach her or try and un-seat her at the next election. If she is breaking the law they can try and keep her in prison.

Here, our naked rambler has been in prison for nearly 10 years, without having done anything illegal!
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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2015, 10:23:15 AM »
If the state objects they can try and impeach her or try and un-seat her at the next election. If she is breaking the law they can try and keep her in prison.
She is clearly unable to do her job.  She should resign.

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Here, our naked rambler has been in prison for nearly 10 years, without having done anything illegal!
No, you mean he hasn't done anything that you find objectionable.  He wouldn't be in prison if he hadn't done anything illegal.
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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2015, 11:45:11 AM »
The bigger issue here is of holding elections to such posts, rather than appointing them.

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2015, 12:02:10 PM »
Silly woman.

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2015, 03:14:30 PM »
The bigger issue here is of holding elections to such posts, rather than appointing them.

No it isn't.  That's only an issue because it prevents her from being fired. 
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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2015, 03:53:17 PM »
The bigger issue here is of holding elections to such posts, rather than appointing them.

No it isn't.  That's only an issue because it prevents her from being fired.

Having elected somebody why not have a vote of no confidence?

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2015, 06:28:06 PM »
Sounds like a plan Humph. Hold a recall vote on her. She will win of course. I bet you didn't realize that.

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2015, 07:04:48 PM »
This seems like one of these 'only in America' stories because it seems they have this odd situation of being secular politically and yet some there seem to have an almost childlike infatuation with religion.

Marriage legislation is a matter of public policy and not theology, and it isn't in the gift of Christians or any other theists to second-guess this legislation: her role is to administer the legislation in line with what the requirements are but she seems to think that her Christianity is some kind of trump-card that allows her to vary legislation to suit her particular set of religious superstitions.

If her conscience bothers her then her only option is to quit and not play the martyr.   

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2015, 08:02:53 PM »
This seems like one of these 'only in America' stories because it seems they have this odd situation of being secular politically and yet some there seem to have an almost childlike infatuation with religion.

Marriage legislation is a matter of public policy and not theology, and it isn't in the gift of Christians or any other theists to second-guess this legislation: her role is to administer the legislation in line with what the requirements are but she seems to think that her Christianity is some kind of trump-card that allows her to vary legislation to suit her particular set of religious superstitions.

If her conscience bothers her then her only option is to quit and not play the martyr.
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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2015, 10:59:48 AM »
I haven't been able to access the story, so can't comment, I'm afraid.  For some reason, when I try to open the BBC website, it all comes up except that it asks me to "Customise your homepage" - something I did a few days ago and don't really want to recustomise.  Even when I did add an unobjectionable option (World News!!), it first told me that my homepage had been updated but then returned to the 'Customise your homepage' banner, which stops the rest of the site working.

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2015, 02:05:19 PM »
Hope,
Just google Rowan County Kentucky. Oodles of sites on the lady going to jail because she won't compromise her faith for Obama.

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2015, 02:15:11 PM »
and yet some there seem to have an almost childlike infatuation with religion.

I think that better describes you and Shaker since you can't seem to rise above the ''Religious people are stinky poo heads'' stage.

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2015, 02:16:29 PM »
Hope,
Just google Rowan County Kentucky. Oodles of sites on the lady going to jail because she won't compromise her faith for Obama.
You forget this is the U of K where the done thing is to crawl up the boss's bottom.

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2015, 02:21:31 PM »
Mr. Meth,
YUCK! Never get that close to the state broadcaster!

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2015, 02:22:19 PM »
The woman is refusing to do the job she is being paid for. She should resign and allow somebody more competent to do the job.

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2015, 02:27:28 PM »
The woman is refusing to do the job she is being paid for. She should resign and allow somebody more competent to do the job.
I would have thought if somebody doesn't do the job they should get the sack. What's all this bollocks about going to jail?

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2015, 02:32:26 PM »
The woman is refusing to do the job she is being paid for. She should resign and allow somebody more competent to do the job.
I would have thought if somebody doesn't do the job they should get the sack. What's all this bollocks about going to jail?

Apparently she can't be sacked because she was elected. She was sent to jail for refusing to obey the law, and what's more she gave orders to her subordinates to do the same. Fortunately they have more sense, and are doing the job properly.

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2015, 02:37:03 PM »
The woman is refusing to do the job she is being paid for. She should resign and allow somebody more competent to do the job.
I would have thought if somebody doesn't do the job they should get the sack. What's all this bollocks about going to jail?

Apparently she can't be sacked because she was elected. She was sent to jail for refusing to obey the law, and what's more she gave orders to her subordinates to do the same. Fortunately they have more sense, and are doing the job properly.
Ah, a last ditch stand against linguistic piracy.

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2015, 02:55:57 PM »
She was elected county clerk BEFORE Obama changed the laws. So it is a case of her being forced to compromise her faith because that is what Obama demands and Obama will let her rot in jail until she is crushed under his boot.

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Re: Holding out for a hero
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2015, 02:59:26 PM »
Hope,
Just google Rowan County Kentucky. Oodles of sites on the lady going to jail because she won't compromise her faith for Obama.

Obama wants a marriage license from Kentucky? You'd have thought his divorce would have been reported, or at least one of the Fox "News" dipshits would have picked up on his attempted bigamy...

Unless, of course, you're just being facetious about the millions of gay Americans who are celebrating the fact that they now have marriage rights?

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