Oh Dear

[Owlswing]

This about those two wanting a white baby cause they are white. That's it. It's not about the child treatment from the community at all. They LOST the case of course. They are a couple of, white is better for here, type losers.  Sperm banks, that's just revolting! Poor child, her future looks bleak, now that everyone can read about how her selfish mommies didn't like what they got.(dada's sperm) That child is in for misery.

Why is it wrong to want children who are like yourself?

O.

Yes I have heard of deaf people wanting deaf children but that's probably another thread.

With regards this couple. What is it that prevents them from possibly being racist?

Nothing prevents them being racist, but why would that be the first assumption? It's natural for people to want their children to look like them, and it's certainly a societal expectation - that's one of the reasons adoption agencies are reluctant in most instances to place children with parents of a differing racial background.

O.

Whoooa there boy. I think you are on a bit of a sticky chucking in what is ''natural'' here. Who said the possibility of racism was the first consideration here. Are you saying the possibility shouldn't be discussed or swept under the carpet.

You seem to be introducing a hierarchy of concerns here where racial concerns come below consumer satisfaction.

What will the child think when it finds out how horrified it's parents were on it's arrival?

Emigrate to Canada and join JC - you seem to be on the same unpleasant wavelength!

[Owlswing]

Read the article - the Clinic has admitte that they supplied the sperm of a Black male BY MISTAKE!

The Clinic were, by their own admission, negligent - get over it Vlad and JC you racist idiots!

[Walt Zingmatilder]

This about those two wanting a white baby cause they are white. That's it. It's not about the child treatment from the community at all. They LOST the case of course. They are a couple of, white is better for here, type losers.  Sperm banks, that's just revolting! Poor child, her future looks bleak, now that everyone can read about how her selfish mommies didn't like what they got.(dada's sperm) That child is in for misery.

Why is it wrong to want children who are like yourself?

O.

Yes I have heard of deaf people wanting deaf children but that's probably another thread.

With regards this couple. What is it that prevents them from possibly being racist?

Nothing prevents them being racist, but why would that be the first assumption? It's natural for people to want their children to look like them, and it's certainly a societal expectation - that's one of the reasons adoption agencies are reluctant in most instances to place children with parents of a differing racial background.

O.

Whoooa there boy. I think you are on a bit of a sticky chucking in what is ''natural'' here. Who said the possibility of racism was the first consideration here. Are you saying the possibility shouldn't be discussed or swept under the carpet.

You seem to be introducing a hierarchy of concerns here where racial concerns come below consumer satisfaction.

What will the child think when it finds out how horrified it's parents were on it's arrival?

Emigrate to Canada and join JC - you seem to be on the same unpleasant wavelength!

No you are trying to be ''right on'' and ''opportunist'' here while actually not considering the feelings of this couples child and racial issues.

[Owlswing]

This about those two wanting a white baby cause they are white. That's it. It's not about the child treatment from the community at all. They LOST the case of course. They are a couple of, white is better for here, type losers.  Sperm banks, that's just revolting! Poor child, her future looks bleak, now that everyone can read about how her selfish mommies didn't like what they got.(dada's sperm) That child is in for misery.

Why is it wrong to want children who are like yourself?

O.

Yes I have heard of deaf people wanting deaf children but that's probably another thread.

With regards this couple. What is it that prevents them from possibly being racist?

Nothing prevents them being racist, but why would that be the first assumption? It's natural for people to want their children to look like them, and it's certainly a societal expectation - that's one of the reasons adoption agencies are reluctant in most instances to place children with parents of a differing racial background.

O.

Whoooa there boy. I think you are on a bit of a sticky chucking in what is ''natural'' here. Who said the possibility of racism was the first consideration here. Are you saying the possibility shouldn't be discussed or swept under the carpet.

You seem to be introducing a hierarchy of concerns here where racial concerns come below consumer satisfaction.

What will the child think when it finds out how horrified it's parents were on it's arrival?

Emigrate to Canada and join JC - you seem to be on the same unpleasant wavelength!

No you are trying to be ''right on'' and ''opportunist'' here while actually not considering the feelings of this couples child and racial issues.

If you bothered to read the article, instead of just piggybacking JC, you would see that the parents have staed that they love the child regardless of its mixed race, they are claiming the Cilinc's negligence will result in the child they love being persecuted by racists like you and JC

[OH MY WORLD!]

It is about race for those two liars. What don't you get Matty? Are you always this silly. I'm all for mixed race and condemn those ladies for using the people of Ohio to line their pockets. My Metis Nation rocks it you silly man!  We are a MIXED NATION! DUH! What were your grades like in school?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

This about those two wanting a white baby cause they are white. That's it. It's not about the child treatment from the community at all. They LOST the case of course. They are a couple of, white is better for here, type losers.  Sperm banks, that's just revolting! Poor child, her future looks bleak, now that everyone can read about how her selfish mommies didn't like what they got.(dada's sperm) That child is in for misery.

Why is it wrong to want children who are like yourself?

O.

Yes I have heard of deaf people wanting deaf children but that's probably another thread.

With regards this couple. What is it that prevents them from possibly being racist?

Nothing prevents them being racist, but why would that be the first assumption? It's natural for people to want their children to look like them, and it's certainly a societal expectation - that's one of the reasons adoption agencies are reluctant in most instances to place children with parents of a differing racial background.

O.

Whoooa there boy. I think you are on a bit of a sticky chucking in what is ''natural'' here. Who said the possibility of racism was the first consideration here. Are you saying the possibility shouldn't be discussed or swept under the carpet.

You seem to be introducing a hierarchy of concerns here where racial concerns come below consumer satisfaction.

What will the child think when it finds out how horrified it's parents were on it's arrival?

Emigrate to Canada and join JC - you seem to be on the same unpleasant wavelength!

No you are trying to be ''right on'' and ''opportunist'' here while actually not considering the feelings of this couples child and racial issues.

If you bothered to read the article, instead of just piggybacking JC, you would see that the parents have staed that they love the child regardless of its mixed race, they are claiming the Cilinc's negligence will result in the child they love being persecuted by racists like you and JC

How am I a racist?

[OH MY WORLD!]

YOU, Matty are the one that bitched about your area being full of immigrants and no longer British. Huh, some nerve lying about me with your racist accusation. You have issues don't you, poor thing.

[OH MY WORLD!]

For Matty,
Just so you don't make a fool out of yourself again, claiming I am racist.
My mixed nation the Metis.

http://firstpeoplesofcanada.com/fp_metis/fp_metis1.html

[Owlswing]

For Matty,
Just so you don't make a fool out of yourself again, claiming I am racist.
My mixed nation the Metis.

http://firstpeoplesofcanada.com/fp_metis/fp_metis1.html

Yeah but you are a mix of two WHITE races - you are still racist!

[OH MY WORLD!]

How foolish you are being Matty. The Cree are not a white race. They came from the Mongolian area originally, many moons ago. Too funny you!

[OH MY WORLD!]

Here is a white Cree for ya silly Matty.
http://library.usask.ca/northwest/background/pound.htm

[Owlswing]

Here is a white Cree for ya silly Matty.
http://library.usask.ca/northwest/background/pound.htm

Mongol = NOT Negroid!

[OH MY WORLD!]

Oh my world! You have issues Matty. I'm going to leave you to stew. You think there is only a white race and a black race. God help ya.

[ippy]

No Matty,
You are out of touch if you think children of same sex parents don't face bigotry from the community. Out of touch Matty, that's what even a monkey on a rock would think of somebody like you.

Looks to me from what you say Canada is quite a way behind the UK, apart from the odd few weirdos that we all have to suffer.

We have same sex parenting here, what's the problem? In my experience not many people even notice.

ippy 

[Owlswing]

I'm going to leave you to stew.

HOO-FUCKING-RAY!

You finally got the message - it took you bloody long enough!

Peace at last!

[ippy]

Ya right these two ladies are worried that their mixed race child will face bigotry because she is mixed. I don't believe they are worried at all over that. It was just a case of them wanting to get some money. I mean they are gays, and it's the skin colour that is going to make life tough for the little girl? Not believable. What is believable is their balls. No parade for you ladies!

Just spotted this post of yours, it seems to me Canada is very much behind the times, when you consider all of our distant ancestors were black to start with, what's the problem? Could it be that you think that things like sorrow and the tears are not the same for people that are a different colour from you?

By the way this is a British Forum so stop calling biscuits cookies.

ippy

[OH MY WORLD!]

Ippy,
You are going on just like little Matty. We are talking about Ohio, not your island nor  here in God's country Alberta. Give your head a shake. Those ladies don't give a flip about what that child is going to face. If you think that child will not face problems from the community over having two mommies than you are a jokers fool. They don't care ippy, it's about them not her.

[OH MY WORLD!]

Here is a taste of the reality ippy and others. A couple people stand up for bullied children with same sex parents, most do not. Wake up ippy!

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/03/children-of-gay-parents-bullied-would-you-intervene/

[OH MY WORLD!]

Ippy,
My point is those ladies conning you into believing that a mixed child will be bullied but not a child of same sex parents. They are not honest, it's about them and what they want, not the child.  And just to keep you real, Canada was years ahead of you and the USA on legalizing same sex marriage.

[Owlswing]

Ya right these two ladies are worried that their mixed race child will face bigotry because she is mixed. I don't believe they are worried at all over that. It was just a case of them wanting to get some money. I mean they are gays, and it's the skin colour that is going to make life tough for the little girl? Not believable. What is believable is their balls. No parade for you ladies!

Just spotted this post of yours, it seems to me Canada is very much behind the times, when you consider all of our distant ancestors were black to start with, what's the problem? Could it be that you think that things like sorrow and the tears are not the same for people that are a different colour from you?

By the way this is a British Forum so stop calling biscuits cookies.

ippy

Behind the times, Ippy?

They and Americans are positively mediaeval!

If you are gay - you have no rights (even if those rights are guarenteed under the Constitution that they are so proud of)

If you are non-white - you have no rights (even if those rights are guarenteed under the Constitution that they are so proud of)

If you are non-Christian - you have no rights (even if those rights are guarenteed under the Constitution that they are so proud of)

If you are living in abject poverty - you have no rights (even if those rights are guarenteed under the Constitution that they are so proud of)

If you are homeless - you have no rights (even if those rights are guarenteed under the Constitution that they are so proud of)

So, if you are gay, Pagan or atheist, negroid, poor and homeless you are well and truly screwed!

By the way - Nice point about the cookies!

[Udayana]

Don't really see what this has to do with parents being a same sex couple, presumably the same kind of mistake can happen with hetero parents or same race or mixed race parents.

Neither does it overtly have anything to do with bullying.The parents are claiming that "because of her upbringing she had stereotypical attitudes about black people and had “limited cultural competency” when dealing with African-Americans."

Which, admittedly, makes no sense to me - surely the parents are responsible for bringing the child up with suitable attitudes? Why would a black child need to be brought up with different attitudes than a white child?

What sort of compensation are they expecting for a child being the wrong race?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Ya right these two ladies are worried that their mixed race child will face bigotry because she is mixed. I don't believe they are worried at all over that. It was just a case of them wanting to get some money. I mean they are gays, and it's the skin colour that is going to make life tough for the little girl? Not believable. What is believable is their balls. No parade for you ladies!

Just spotted this post of yours, it seems to me Canada is very much behind the times, when you consider all of our distant ancestors were black to start with, what's the problem? Could it be that you think that things like sorrow and the tears are not the same for people that are a different colour from you?

By the way this is a British Forum so stop calling biscuits cookies.

ippy

I don't think Mr Canoe has a problem with race Ippy but it seems that the couple who have this mixed race baby see that as some kind of handicap.

Mr Canoe points out that this is disingenuous because there is likely to be prejudice, not of Mr canoe's or my making, for the child over not having a heterosexual couple for parents.

I can see nothing wrong in what Mr Canoe has said. It has just been misinterpreted through the bigoted lens of campaigning paganism and antitheism.

[Shaker]

And philosophically naturalist totalitarianism as well, Vlad!

[OH MY WORLD!]

Udayana,
My adopted parents had no experience with Metis and Cree culture yet they took me in and gave me their family. They were the best parents I could have hoped for.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

And philosophically naturalist totalitarianism as well, Vlad!

.........a case could be made.