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Long to Reign over Us.
« on: September 09, 2015, 08:43:56 AM »
Dear Your Majesty,

Congratulations, 63 years loyal service, God Bless You Mam.

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PS: Good morning oor Jim. ;)
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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2015, 08:45:27 AM »
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN

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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2015, 08:49:17 AM »
Dear Your Majesty,

Congratulations, 63 years loyal service, God Bless You Mam.

 :) :)

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PS: Good morning oor Jim. ;)
we were having a light hearted wager in our house over the last few days as to who would break the record first - the Queen or Wayne Rooney. I was in a minority of one opting for Rooney - I won!!

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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2015, 08:54:34 AM »
Dear Prof,

And why not. :D well done Mr Rooney. 8)

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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2015, 09:30:26 AM »
Congratulations Ma'am. Long may your reign continue.

Actually, all things considered Wayne Rooney might well make a better heir to the throne that the present incumbent of that position.

Considering that her mother lived to 101 - if the Queen does the same then Charles will be 78, and, with the progress of medical knowledge, H M may well last longer than that.

Twelve more years married to Camilla Park-and-Ride? He just might not make it that long.

King William III? A far better bet in the job than his father, in my personal opinion only, of course.
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2015, 09:53:34 AM »
Not overly fussed about it but I do like to think of all those stately homes that will need to reprint their 'longest reigning monarch' posters.

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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2015, 09:55:11 AM »
Let's celebrate the institutionalised privelege of rich people! Old lady made wealthy at our expense still hasn't died! Yippee!

The only upside of this in any sense is that the plank Charles hasn't taken the crown.

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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2015, 09:56:27 AM »
Bet the Mail are shifting lots of souvenir editions 'in colour' today.

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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2015, 09:58:47 AM »
Dear Mrs Windsor.
I wish you a long life filled with health, but hope that the smell of paint that assaults your nostrils everywhere the traffic is held up for you to plant your unelected little tootsies, isn't to irritating.

Why not open a food bank in celebration - or instead of being a super0-scrounger, live on benefits instead?
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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2015, 10:06:27 AM »
Dear Mrs Windsor.
I wish you a long life filled with health, but hope that the smell of paint that assaults your nostrils everywhere the traffic is held up for you to plant your unelected little tootsies, isn't to irritating.

Why not open a food bank in celebration - or instead of being a super-scrounger whose benefits have been increased this year by that nice Mr Cameron, try living on the minimum wage and housing benefit instead.




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While your at it: any chance of getting some superglue to apply to the mouths of
A) that twit you married,
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B) the numpty who will wear your million pound hat after you pop your clogs?
« Last Edit: September 09, 2015, 10:09:14 AM by Anchorman »
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2015, 10:22:39 AM »
Dear Jim,

I thought you would be in Edinbugger waving yer Union Flag, helping Her Majesty open that new railway line. :P
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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2015, 10:31:15 AM »
Congratulations Ma'am. Long may your reign continue.

Actually, all things considered Wayne Rooney might well make a better heir to the throne that the present incumbent of that position.

Considering that her mother lived to 101 - if the Queen does the same then Charles will be 78, and, with the progress of medical knowledge, H M may well last longer than that.

Twelve more years married to Camilla Park-and-Ride? He just might not make it that long.

King William III? A far better bet in the job than his father, in my personal opinion only, of course.
Problem is that of course Charles was popular in his youth, similar to William - don't you remember that lovely couple in the 80s with their 2 sweet kids.

But decades of kicking his heels waiting for a job he was 'born' to but unlikely to actually attain until he is over 70 has corroded the public's view. Not least because it is difficult to retain good news stories when you effectively spend decades at tax payer expense without a job.

And for all the great press about William now I struggle to see how he will be able to sustain media positivity over the decades he will need to wait until he attains the throne.

So just to give some kind of perspective. If the Queen lives to the same age as her mother, Charles won't become King until he is 78. If Charles lives as long as his father William will be at least 61 before he attains the throne. And the same issue will face George.

In the world of longevity, with a strict hereditary monarchy we will constantly have heirs kicking their heals until old age and monarchs not attaining the throne until they are at traditional retirement age and then likely spending a considerable amount of their reign in increasing poor health and unable to fulfil the requirements of the job.

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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2015, 10:33:52 AM »
My mum got her gong from Charles on a day when his mum was trying to find something useful to do. She was terribly disappointed (my mum that is, but maybe his as well).

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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2015, 10:38:40 AM »
... decades of kicking his heels waiting for a job he was 'born' to but unlikely to actually attain until he is over 70 has corroded the public's view.
I don't think the length of time it's taking for him to assume the throne has corroded the public's view; it's far more to do with recent press intrusion into the lives of these people and the fact that we now know, amongst numerous other things, that he had a thing for (or rather with) Camilla Park-and-Ride long before Diana was on the scene, that he was caught on the telephone declaring his wish to be a tampon and the like.
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2015, 10:42:05 AM »
Yes and no. I think the intrusion also gained him some sympathy, at least in hindsight. We're a sentimental bunch and like the fact he's happy after his arranged marriage went belly up.

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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2015, 10:42:54 AM »
Dear Jim,

I thought you would be in Edinbugger waving yer Union Flag, helping Her Majesty open that new railway line. :P


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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2015, 10:46:45 AM »
Yeah, like I said before, Anchorman, classy.  ???

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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2015, 10:47:13 AM »

In the world of longevity, with a strict hereditary monarchy we will constantly have heirs kicking their heals until old age and monarchs not attaining the throne until they are at traditional retirement age and then likely spending a considerable amount of their reign in increasing poor health and unable to fulfil the requirements of the job.

This matter is much better organised in The Netherlands where the reigning monarch feels free to abdicate at a suitable time.

Charles receives a rather bad press together with vacuous insults for no good reason. He has not actually been supported to any great extent by the taxpayer, his income comes from the Duchy of Cornwall. If he becomes king he will commit no howlers - the tightmesh security system surrounding him will prevent that. His major mistake so far was to be coerced into marrying a rather vapid, sloany virgin.

The best news we could receive today, as HM steps from the shadow of Nigel Gresley's masterpiece, would be that she is terminating the monarchy and we shall be a republic in the morning.
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2015, 10:49:19 AM »
The best news we could receive today, as HM steps from the shadow of Nigel Gresley's masterpiece, would be that she is terminating the monarchy and we shall be a republic in the morning.
Hear hear!
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2015, 10:50:22 AM »

In the world of longevity, with a strict hereditary monarchy we will constantly have heirs kicking their heals until old age and monarchs not attaining the throne until they are at traditional retirement age and then likely spending a considerable amount of their reign in increasing poor health and unable to fulfil the requirements of the job.

This matter is much better organised in The Netherlands where the reigning monarch feels free to abdicate at a suitable time.

Charles receives a rather bad press together with vacuous insults for no good reason. He has not actually been supported to any great extent by the taxpayer, his income comes from the Duchy of Cornwall. If he becomes king he will commit no howlers - the tightmesh security system surrounding him will prevent that. His major mistake so far was to marry was to be coerced into marrying a rather vapid virgin.

The best news we could receive today, as HM steps from the shadow of Nigel Gresley's masterpiece, would be that she is terminating the monarchy and we shall be a republic in the morning.



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"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2015, 10:51:24 AM »
Charles receives a rather bad press together with vacuous insults for no good reason. He has not actually been supported to any great extent by the taxpayer, his income comes from the Duchy of Cornwall.

That would be the Duchy of Cornwall which is exempt from income and corporation taxes that isn't subsidised by the tax-payer, right?

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If he becomes king he will commit no howlers - the tightmesh security system surrounding him will prevent that.

Like they did when he started writing to government ministers asking them to interfere in legislation?

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His major mistake so far was to marry was to be coerced into marrying a rather vapid virgin.

He's in the unfortunate position that he's been born into a system that limits his freedoms at our expense.

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The best news we could receive today, as HM steps from the shadow of Nigel Gresley's masterpiece, would be that she is terminating the monarchy and we shall be a republic in the morning.

I shall not hold my breath...

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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2015, 10:51:32 AM »

In the world of longevity, with a strict hereditary monarchy we will constantly have heirs kicking their heals until old age and monarchs not attaining the throne until they are at traditional retirement age and then likely spending a considerable amount of their reign in increasing poor health and unable to fulfil the requirements of the job.

This matter is much better organised in The Netherlands where the reigning monarch feels free to abdicate at a suitable time.

Charles receives a rather bad press together with vacuous insults for no good reason. He has not actually been supported to any great extent by the taxpayer, his income comes from the Duchy of Cornwall. If he becomes king he will commit no howlers - the tightmesh security system surrounding him will prevent that. His major mistake so far was to be coerced into marrying a rather vapid, sloany virgin.

The best news we could receive today, as HM steps from the shadow of Nigel Gresley's masterpiece, would be that she is terminating the monarchy and we shall be a republic in the morning.

Ooh, is the Mallard there? Might be worth a look after all.

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Re: Long to Reign over Us.
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2015, 10:53:51 AM »
... decades of kicking his heels waiting for a job he was 'born' to but unlikely to actually attain until he is over 70 has corroded the public's view.
I don't think the length of time it's taking for him to assume the throne has corroded the public's view; it's far more to do with recent press intrusion into the lives of these people and the fact that we now know, amongst numerous other things, that he had a thing for (or rather with) Camilla Park-and-Ride long before Diana was on the scene, that he was caught on the telephone declaring his wish to be a tampon and the like.
I agree, but I think once the media has 'built' someone up, they will eventually 'tear them down' unless the person is unassailable, and that really only applies to the Queen but not the heirs. So no doubt there was a time when the media only really published good news stories about Charles, even though no doubt they knew all sorts of other things. Then they got to a point where the good news narrative got boring so the nasty stuff came out. I have no doubt the same will happen for William - currently they are treating him with kid gloves, all nice and lovely - it won't last, and I've no doubt there will be plenty of muck to rake over in due course, just as there is in anyone's lives if the media are constantly in attendance and are minded ton put it out there.

I do think that people tend to have rather short memories. In many ways the current position of William is just about identical to that of Charles in the mid 80s. Lovely wife who seems to be more media-worthy than he is, nice young kids - family media darlings - recently left his military career and searching for a new role. All the elements are there just the same.

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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2015, 10:56:01 AM »
I think they have forgotten what the media did to Diana also. I feel very sorry for Kate.

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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2015, 10:57:15 AM »
He has not actually been supported to any great extent by the taxpayer, his income comes from the Duchy of Cornwall.
The Duchy of Cornwall (and indeed of Lancaster) are effectively state property. They are not private property in the manner that some other residences of the Royals are. Indeed there was a legal judgement to this effect recently (I think I even posted it here).

So income that comes from the Duchy is effectively state income - so if that goes back to Charles that is state funding, merely through a rather unusual part-hypothecated route.