God's Job ?!?!?!

[Rhiannon]

Didn't we evolve from bacteria?

[Leonard James]

We are not " lumbered " with life, we are given a life and it's up to us to find its potential.

"Given a life" is a rather loaded way of saying that we are part of the evolutionary process which is life.

No one owes us a bed of roses.

Like the sone by Lynn Anderson " I never promised you a rose garden"

We expect to much.

Speak for yourself. I don't expect anything ... I make the best of what genes I inherited.

A creator, is just that, a creator.

I take it you are referring to the cause of the universe.

You get what you get, sometimes through no fault of your own it goes wrong.

You get cancer, that is not a creators "fault"  that is just life.

As I have already pointed out, I am aware of that. It is the "God" believers that have to deal with the problem.

There are so many other things to be grateful for.

The obsession religions give to the avoidance of death and the daft twistings of reality to support it, can only be described as sad.

I would use the adjective "idiotic".

[Leonard James]

Didn't we evolve from bacteria?

Bacteria are part of the same evolutionary tree if life.

[trippymonkey]

SO Rose...
What you're saying is.... YOUR God is NOT the ultimate being EVER ?!?!? It must be if you're saying He's not ultimately responsible for everything.
So a scientist is NOT responsible if he inadvertantly creates a virus that wipes out humanity ?

We're 'talking' about GOD here not some backstreet monkey in a third rate lab !!!

[Rhiannon]

Can't speak for Rose, Trippy, but in order for God to be to blame for something he/she/it would have to be consciously creating, judging and destroying. That's not how I see God at all.

[trippymonkey]

OK But is He not, though ?!?!!?
I know there's certain trains of thought that believe God creates & then just sits back....

Maybe it's not how YOU see God but doesn't mean what you say isn't true, does it?

Again I ask.... Is God not supporting & sustaining ALL things???

[Rhiannon]

To me God is all things. So death and decay is a part of god, just as birth and life are. God doesn't create, god is creation.

[trippymonkey]

MMMM !!! Interesting?!?!
Could you elaborate, please?

N

[Hope]

To me God is all things. So death and decay is a part of god, just as birth and life are. God doesn't create, god is creation.

So what initiated creation, Rhi?  Or is this simply another way of referring to a sentient being from which everything came into being?

[Sassy]

Might seem a silly question to some BUT...

What exactly IS God's job? What does 'He' do all day ?

Wouldn't His power be enough to sustain this universe without Him needing to 'press any buttons' like someone watching over, say, a nuclear plant

Why Trippy?

Why the questions?

You ask what God does then imply you believe he sustains the Universe by pressing buttons. I am not sure you or I could understand fully the power of God.
He isn't like a man with man built nuclear power plants.
Man creates these power plants and harnesses power. God is the power which created us.  So Gods complete knowledge and care of us is secured by himself.

 

Hasn't He got 'little godletts' around Him as suggested in The Bible & other faiths, like angels, doing odd jobs etc ??

Is that the angels who interact the messengers?
Those angels who save and tend to mans needs...
Why do they need to be involved with the Universe itself? God has that in hand.

This is a question for ALL of us here & not aimed at any one faith or idea.

Nick

I am more interested in your purpose. If you know God has angels and what the bible tells us about them. Why the   questions?

[Sassy]

I should imagine He reads the contents of this forum and weeps

Nah! This is God we are talking about...

King James Bible
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
Gods complete knowledge and care of all he has made assures us that he does not read this forum and weep.
King James Bible
For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether.

16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.


God knows everything and he has all things in his hands and all things in his own time...

[Sassy]

There has been a few messages judging God without any real grounds or evidence.
Gods proof he loves us, is he hasn't destroyed us for our sinful nature but provided a way back to him.

Gods love is such he never turns anyone away. But you all have a choice to know God and you throw it back in his face. Love is a two way street and there is very little love shown by atheist on this board to believers. Yet they think they deserve it to be shown to them. It is weird how they want something they themselves are not willing to give. Perhaps the answer lies with themselves. You cannot expect to receive from other humans what you are not prepared to give yourselves.

God loved the world he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth shall not perish but have eternal life. Yes he knew some would fall away and others would insult Christ but he loved us enough to let him die for the ungodly. It is your choice to accept or refuse. You love your own life more than the truth.

[Sassy]

Didn't we evolve from bacteria?

So where did the bacteria evolve from and why are things still not evolving from bacteria. Where did the light and oxygen come from as well as the water?

Genesis 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

The people of God had the answers long before the scientist used his words as a basis for teaching.

God made us and nowhere can a science book tell you how creation could come from a bacteria and stop so no more evolved. It didn't happen God created us.

[floo]

 

[Shaker]

Love is a two way street and there is very little love shown by atheist on this board to believers.

There are reasons for that.

Yet they think they deserve it to be shown to them.

Do they? Who does? Specifically.

It is weird how they want something they themselves are not willing to give.

For love I have family and friends. As for plenty here, I can do without their "love"; I'd sooner have some signs of a spark of intelligence.

[floo]

I reckon we can do without the deity's brand of 'love'!

[Andy]

Which god are we talking about, or can I make one up?

[Leonard James]

No bacteria are evolving all the time.

Recently I came across this which I thought was very interesting

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/13/health/microbe-genes-human-dna-evolution/

Some of our genes are  thought to be a result of horizontal transference, blood groups for example.

The point is that they are as evolving as bacteria ... nothing more, like all other species they adapt to their environment. But the evolutionary path taken by all the rest of the life forms was much more radical, and for all we know will continue beyond homo sapiens.

[Shaker]

Which god are we talking about, or can I make one up?

Why not? Everybody else does.

[Leonard James]

There has been a few messages judging God without any real grounds or evidence.
Gods proof he loves us, is he hasn't destroyed us for our sinful nature but provided a way back to him.

Gods love is such he never turns anyone away. But you all have a choice to know God and you throw it back in his face. Love is a two way street and there is very little love shown by atheist on this board to believers. Yet they think they deserve it to be shown to them. It is weird how they want something they themselves are not willing to give. Perhaps the answer lies with themselves. You cannot expect to receive from other humans what you are not prepared to give yourselves.

God loved the world he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth shall not perish but have eternal life. Yes he knew some would fall away and others would insult Christ but he loved us enough to let him die for the ungodly. It is your choice to accept or refuse. You love your own life more than the truth.

Yes, Sassy, we know that is what your "holy" book proclaims, but sadly it is only the wishful thinking of a bygone people, and bears no resemblance to the real world.

[floo]

Which god are we talking about, or can I make one up?

I have created my own god, easy peasy,it answers to me, and me only! ALL gods are human creations, imo.

[Leonard James]

Which god are we talking about, or can I make one up?

Go for it!

What does your God do?

What on earth makes you think there are any gods at all, let alone what they do?

[Leonard James]

Which god are we talking about, or can I make one up?

Go for it!

What does your God do?

What on earth makes you think there are any gods at all, let alone what they do?

I was just giving Andy the opportunity to put his tuppence in 

My experiences in life makes me think there is "something " to it or at least something more than we know about.

What they do, is purely speculation, something I am not adverse to 

I am well aware that there is an enormous amount of stuff that we know nothing about, but nothing in my life indicates the existence of any sort of "God".

If you enjoy that sort of guessing game, fine, Rose, but when the know alls here try to convince us that it is anything more than guesswork, they must accept challenge.

[Andy]

Which god are we talking about, or can I make one up?

Go for it!

What does your God do?

Hmm, perhaps the atheist god - a steady deist god who sits outside the universe without foreknowledge or ever being able to interfere with it, but watches on with a metaphysical face palm as humanity makes a complete bollocks of figuring him out by making up any old tosh about him. He doesn't want to spend eternity with gullible people who believe things on faith. He wants sceptics, critical thinkers - people who don't just blindingly follow the dictates of false god characters by surrendering their moral agency.

Still, he's a bit of a bell end all the same for offering infinite rewards for finite deeds, but even he isn't perfect.

[ippy]

I'm glad there's been a lighthearted set of responses on this topic but let's keep it, for now, to the idea that God DOES exist.

SOOO What the heck does He do with His time ?

It's as near to zero likelihood that there's anything there that could be doing anything, well there's no evidence that says otherwise.

Bit of a pointless question?

ippy