What is Your Personal Experience of Your God?

[BeRational]

Whenever I dream of being 'at home' I'm never in this house, I'm in the house that I lived in ten years ago. Which speaks volumes about my life.

Strangely true for me, but the house I grew up in.

[Outrider]

I don't remember having dreamed anything since childhood. I presume that I do dream, it seems universal, but I don't remember any of them.

Wonder what that means?

O.

[Nearly Sane]

Maybe you are dreaming that you don't dream and just haven't woken up?

[Rhiannon]

I often wake up and think, wow, that was funny/interesting, must remember that, before promptly forgetting it. The ones I remember have an emotional intensity to them that stays with me long after waking.

[Shaker]

I don't remember having dreamed anything since childhood. I presume that I do dream, it seems universal, but I don't remember any of them.

Wonder what that means?

O.

IIRC you only remember a dream if you wake up (for whatever reason) while you're in one of those 15-minute periods of REM or dreaming sleep that recur every 90 minutes or so as long as you're asleep. In other words, you have to wake up while you're still dreaming to remember the dream. It seems odd in the extreme that you say you can't remember any of your dreams since childhood. Are you sure? Not at all?

[Outrider]

IIRC you only remember a dream if you wake up (for whatever reason) while you're in one of those 15-minute periods of REM or dreaming sleep that recur every 90 minutes or so as long as you're asleep. In other words, you have to wake up while you're still dreaming to remember the dream. It seems odd in the extreme that you say you can't remember any of your dreams since childhood. Are you sure? Not at all?

I occasionally wake up with the sensation that I've woken up from a dream - not often - but not what the content of the dream was.

O.

[SweetPea]

Re the OP:

Well, Jack, I'm with Gonners and Rose in that Christians here haven't come forward with their accounts of their relationship with God because it is so personal. But I can see you are genuine with your enquiry and so will share some of my experiences.

Having started out a Christian, I wondered away and into new age philosophy. Here everything was wonderful and 'we are gods'. Huge red flag. This was the lie told to Eve in the garden of Eden. At the same time I was drawn to pantheism which (my own belief, now) is all part of the deception. Lucifer will do anything to draw folk away from the knowledge of the true Creator, Ahayah (God).

At some point, I met someone online that was a great help in showing me how I had been deceived. Then I had a dream that I was in a lake, and standing at the edge was Jesus and three others that I seemed to know were some of the disciples but I didn't know which ones. Jesus held out his hand to me and pulled me out of the water. In the distance was a huge white mansion that appeared to be glowing, radiantly. All very symbolic. I woke the next morning and knew something had changed.

Another account, perhaps more about faith. Many years ago, I was walking home alone and about to be confronted by a group of drunkard youths. I offered up a silent prayer and just surrendered. Almost immediately a rush of wind entered through the top of my head and exited through the area of my chest in the direction of the youths. It was a split second action and I most certainly felt and almost heard the 'whoosh'. To my relief, the group of lads turned in another direction. I haven't experienced anything like that before or since, but it was very real at the time.


(If you have any questions, I have to go out now - grandchild- minding and probably won't be able to get back to you until sometime over the weekend.)

[ippy]

I don't remember having dreamed anything since childhood. I presume that I do dream, it seems universal, but I don't remember any of them.

Wonder what that means?

O.

It means you're probably suffering from memory loss, anything to help that's my nature.

ippy

[Outrider]

I don't remember having dreamed anything since childhood. I presume that I do dream, it seems universal, but I don't remember any of them.

Wonder what that means?

O.

It means you're probably suffering from memory loss, anything to help that's my nature.

ippy

I think someone told me that once before... maybe I dreamed it?

O.

[ippy]

I don't remember having dreamed anything since childhood. I presume that I do dream, it seems universal, but I don't remember any of them.

Wonder what that means?

O.

It means you're probably suffering from memory loss, anything to help that's my nature.

ippy

I think someone told me that once before... maybe I dreamed it?

O.

No that's not right, you wouldn't have remembered if it was in a dream, you must have remembered it from elsewhere.

ippy

[Jack Knave]

I had a dream this morning; my old working partner and I were putting up a few cupboards in, I've no idea who's kitchen and they were having the railway brought up to the back door of the house, it gets better, the rails had to be at least 4 feet up and I was arguing with my partner about the strength of the breeze blocks he wanted to use and I was pointing out to him that they wouldn't be able to support the weight of a fully loaded railway train; all the way up to the back kitchen door, it was very real at the time.

When you think about it there's a lot of people having the trains pulling up to their back doors these days and a lot of people jumping on when they stop, so that can do their commute to work? Why the 4 foot up? 

Point is Rhi dreams, mine was very real at the time and I'm in my seventies, youngsters and imagination? Lot more of it when any of us are youngsters.   

Imagination.

ippy

P S I really did have that dream this morning, where on Earth did all that lot come from?

Firstly, the emotional content of the dream should be noted. How did you feel in the dream. Secondly, what else was there, if anything; things in the background, and so forth.

Have you had dreams like this before? And nothing can really be said about it until a whole series of dreams are analysed, but may be your missing being at work and useful, and all that(?).

 I can tell you my wife and I had a good laugh about it.

I'm looking forward to seeing my working partner soon to find out why he thought breeze blocks would be strong enough; he should know better than that?

My wife has her A levels in psychology,  my niece is a Dr of psychology and so between them they say the current thinking on this subject is that crudly it's the brain clearing it's self of unwanted rubbish, I have no idea, except dreams like that are not a bother to me in fact they're rather funny.

ippy

Laughter is a sign of shallowness and fear. Like those ignorant sorts who laugh at people who read books and educate themselves but really they laugh because they feel threatened.

The fact that you had to show off that some of your family had psychology qualifications says it all as this is a defence mechanism of the flight reflex.

You keep on laughing, Ippy.   

[ippy]

I had a dream this morning; my old working partner and I were putting up a few cupboards in, I've no idea who's kitchen and they were having the railway brought up to the back door of the house, it gets better, the rails had to be at least 4 feet up and I was arguing with my partner about the strength of the breeze blocks he wanted to use and I was pointing out to him that they wouldn't be able to support the weight of a fully loaded railway train; all the way up to the back kitchen door, it was very real at the time.

When you think about it there's a lot of people having the trains pulling up to their back doors these days and a lot of people jumping on when they stop, so that can do their commute to work? Why the 4 foot up? 

Point is Rhi dreams, mine was very real at the time and I'm in my seventies, youngsters and imagination? Lot more of it when any of us are youngsters.   

Imagination.

ippy

P S I really did have that dream this morning, where on Earth did all that lot come from?

Firstly, the emotional content of the dream should be noted. How did you feel in the dream. Secondly, what else was there, if anything; things in the background, and so forth.

Have you had dreams like this before? And nothing can really be said about it until a whole series of dreams are analysed, but may be your missing being at work and useful, and all that(?).

 I can tell you my wife and I had a good laugh about it.

I'm looking forward to seeing my working partner soon to find out why he thought breeze blocks would be strong enough; he should know better than that?

My wife has her A levels in psychology,  my niece is a Dr of psychology and so between them they say the current thinking on this subject is that crudly it's the brain clearing it's self of unwanted rubbish, I have no idea, except dreams like that are not a bother to me in fact they're rather funny.

ippy

Laughter is a sign of shallowness and fear. Like those ignorant sorts who laugh at people who read books and educate themselves but really they laugh because they feel threatened.

The fact that you had to show off that some of your family had psychology qualifications says it all as this is a defence mechanism of the flight reflex.

You keep on laughing, Ippy. 

Strange post?

ippy

[Jack Knave]

Re the OP:

Well, Jack, I'm with Gonners and Rose in that Christians here haven't come forward with their accounts of their relationship with God because it is so personal. But I can see you are genuine with your enquiry and so will share some of my experiences.

Having started out a Christian, I wondered away and into new age philosophy. Here everything was wonderful and 'we are gods'. Huge red flag. This was the lie told to Eve in the garden of Eden. At the same time I was drawn to pantheism which (my own belief, now) is all part of the deception. Lucifer will do anything to draw folk away from the knowledge of the true Creator, Ahayah (God).

At some point, I met someone online that was a great help in showing me how I had been deceived. Then I had a dream that I was in a lake, and standing at the edge was Jesus and three others that I seemed to know were some of the disciples but I didn't know which ones. Jesus held out his hand to me and pulled me out of the water. In the distance was a huge white mansion that appeared to be glowing, radiantly. All very symbolic. I woke the next morning and knew something had changed.

Another account, perhaps more about faith. Many years ago, I was walking home alone and about to be confronted by a group of drunkard youths. I offered up a silent prayer and just surrendered. Almost immediately a rush of wind entered through the top of my head and exited through the area of my chest in the direction of the youths. It was a split second action and I most certainly felt and almost heard the 'whoosh'. To my relief, the group of lads turned in another direction. I haven't experienced anything like that before or since, but it was very real at the time.


(If you have any questions, I have to go out now - grandchild- minding and probably won't be able to get back to you until sometime over the weekend.)

From what I gather you aren't a Christian and yet you didn't finish off the Jesus dream and what you thought had changed. If you are not a Christian what did you make of this dream?

Also, what I'm looking for is the personal event that makes people believe what they believe - their outlook on life that takes their God or 'God' to be real. Why do you hold the beliefs you do; what personal experience has given you the internal proof for this?

[Jack Knave]

My experience was a nice little chat with " something"  odd at about age 12.

Who came and sat on my bed in the night and seemed to review my life. ( mentally it was like a video being played through your head at very high speed, so you get just tiny glimpses).

Sort of along the lines of sleep paralysis but without the sleep, or the paralysis.

It was a nice experience and is surprisingly common if you look on the Internet.

Never had anything like that again though.

I wanted to introduce him to my mother, because I thought he was pretty cool but he said no, I shouted for her, he vanished instantly ( she was in the bedroom next door).

My mother freaked at the time and got my father to check all the windows and doors and wanted to call the police, because she thought it was a real man who had somehow gotten in.

About ten years ago she told me she was worried because, before I shouted, she had heard " voices" assumed the other voice was my radio.

It was weird.


But it was a very positive and nice experience, so no probs.

I just don't believe all this negative judgmental hell stuff, religions sometimes spout.

IF ( and it's a big if )  it was real, It was wonderful and not at all judgmental.

 


I have no idea what that was though, but he weighed something, because I felt him sit on my bed.


I wasn't into religion either at 12,   I wondered if he'd got the wrong house.

He had a sense of humour too.

But he never introduced himself or explained why he was there.

Did you 'see' him? or did you only hear him and 'felt' his weight.

No I saw him too.

Judging by the description of the experience I would guess the emotional content of it was fairly good, not scary or fearful?

And I assume your father found all the windows and doors were securely closed?

The video thing sounds familiar. What was on the video, was it just you life to date or was there other material on it? Have you pondered on what he said?

Did it help you in away? Do you know why it occurred, as it doesn't happen to everyone? Has anything over the years shown this to be useful or given credence to it?

Hi Jack

I feel it was a pleasant experience.

Yes all the doors and windows were securely closed.

The video thing I've come across since ( nowadays we have the Internet ) in Judaism.
The only thing is Jewish Angels seem to be spirit only and don't have a body although they seem to do the video bit.

I wouldn't have read about it before the days of the Internet I had no contact with Jews. I lived in the sticks, in deepest Somerset.

The images flashing by appeared to be my future, I remember feeling relief that one day I would get married and be happily married. I also remember being disappointed I wouldn't see a UFO ( which sounds funny, but I was more into space and science fiction and at 12 wanted to see one).

It made me feel justified in binning the whole concept of hell, and also I feel people being exclusive in religion and excluding others have no real authorisation.

I have no idea why it happened, it was a bit like being a human filing cabinet 😉

I think it has made me a universalist.

I think the things that really matter are things like, being a caring person, being kind, being honest, being fair.

I don't think it matters what you believe, I think it's what you do and how you behave.

I think what is out there is too wonderful to discriminate in such an unfair way.

I accept it could  all just originate in my brain as could all religious experiences, however when people discuss religion it's always there.

I think it has helped me, a lot.

I think it has influenced my philosophy of life, sort of.

 


I feel sometimes I should make a bigger effort to be a better person less selfish perhaps, I feel I have a responsibility to try harder.

its easier to say, than do though.

Just a thought, the impression of your reaction to your experience reminds me of the type of response someone has after a near death experience....?

[Jack Knave]

I had a dream this morning; my old working partner and I were putting up a few cupboards in, I've no idea who's kitchen and they were having the railway brought up to the back door of the house, it gets better, the rails had to be at least 4 feet up and I was arguing with my partner about the strength of the breeze blocks he wanted to use and I was pointing out to him that they wouldn't be able to support the weight of a fully loaded railway train; all the way up to the back kitchen door, it was very real at the time.

When you think about it there's a lot of people having the trains pulling up to their back doors these days and a lot of people jumping on when they stop, so that can do their commute to work? Why the 4 foot up? 

Point is Rhi dreams, mine was very real at the time and I'm in my seventies, youngsters and imagination? Lot more of it when any of us are youngsters.   

Imagination.

ippy

P S I really did have that dream this morning, where on Earth did all that lot come from?

Firstly, the emotional content of the dream should be noted. How did you feel in the dream. Secondly, what else was there, if anything; things in the background, and so forth.

Have you had dreams like this before? And nothing can really be said about it until a whole series of dreams are analysed, but may be your missing being at work and useful, and all that(?).

 I can tell you my wife and I had a good laugh about it.

I'm looking forward to seeing my working partner soon to find out why he thought breeze blocks would be strong enough; he should know better than that?

My wife has her A levels in psychology,  my niece is a Dr of psychology and so between them they say the current thinking on this subject is that crudly it's the brain clearing it's self of unwanted rubbish, I have no idea, except dreams like that are not a bother to me in fact they're rather funny.

ippy

Laughter is a sign of shallowness and fear. Like those ignorant sorts who laugh at people who read books and educate themselves but really they laugh because they feel threatened.

The fact that you had to show off that some of your family had psychology qualifications says it all as this is a defence mechanism of the flight reflex.

You keep on laughing, Ippy. 

Strange post?

ippy

I wouldn't expect someone of your simple 'down the pub' laughing manner to understand it.

[ippy]

I had a dream this morning; my old working partner and I were putting up a few cupboards in, I've no idea who's kitchen and they were having the railway brought up to the back door of the house, it gets better, the rails had to be at least 4 feet up and I was arguing with my partner about the strength of the breeze blocks he wanted to use and I was pointing out to him that they wouldn't be able to support the weight of a fully loaded railway train; all the way up to the back kitchen door, it was very real at the time.

When you think about it there's a lot of people having the trains pulling up to their back doors these days and a lot of people jumping on when they stop, so that can do their commute to work? Why the 4 foot up? 

Point is Rhi dreams, mine was very real at the time and I'm in my seventies, youngsters and imagination? Lot more of it when any of us are youngsters.   

Imagination.

ippy

P S I really did have that dream this morning, where on Earth did all that lot come from?

Firstly, the emotional content of the dream should be noted. How did you feel in the dream. Secondly, what else was there, if anything; things in the background, and so forth.

Have you had dreams like this before? And nothing can really be said about it until a whole series of dreams are analysed, but may be your missing being at work and useful, and all that(?).

 I can tell you my wife and I had a good laugh about it.

I'm looking forward to seeing my working partner soon to find out why he thought breeze blocks would be strong enough; he should know better than that?

My wife has her A levels in psychology,  my niece is a Dr of psychology and so between them they say the current thinking on this subject is that crudly it's the brain clearing it's self of unwanted rubbish, I have no idea, except dreams like that are not a bother to me in fact they're rather funny.

ippy

Laughter is a sign of shallowness and fear. Like those ignorant sorts who laugh at people who read books and educate themselves but really they laugh because they feel threatened.

The fact that you had to show off that some of your family had psychology qualifications says it all as this is a defence mechanism of the flight reflex.

You keep on laughing, Ippy. 

Strange post?

ippy

I wouldn't expect someone of your simple 'down the pub' laughing manner to understand it.

If were simple and went to the pub or if I went somewhere, anywhere else and had a laugh, it would still, now be two rather strange posts.

ippy

 

[Shaker]

Laughter is a sign of shallowness and fear.

Eeeeh, you learn summat new every day. Round our way it's always been a sign of being amused by something, which is to say, finding something humorous.

Education is a marvelous thing.

[Jack Knave]

I had a dream this morning; my old working partner and I were putting up a few cupboards in, I've no idea who's kitchen and they were having the railway brought up to the back door of the house, it gets better, the rails had to be at least 4 feet up and I was arguing with my partner about the strength of the breeze blocks he wanted to use and I was pointing out to him that they wouldn't be able to support the weight of a fully loaded railway train; all the way up to the back kitchen door, it was very real at the time.

When you think about it there's a lot of people having the trains pulling up to their back doors these days and a lot of people jumping on when they stop, so that can do their commute to work? Why the 4 foot up? 

Point is Rhi dreams, mine was very real at the time and I'm in my seventies, youngsters and imagination? Lot more of it when any of us are youngsters.   

Imagination.

ippy

P S I really did have that dream this morning, where on Earth did all that lot come from?

Firstly, the emotional content of the dream should be noted. How did you feel in the dream. Secondly, what else was there, if anything; things in the background, and so forth.

Have you had dreams like this before? And nothing can really be said about it until a whole series of dreams are analysed, but may be your missing being at work and useful, and all that(?).

 I can tell you my wife and I had a good laugh about it.

I'm looking forward to seeing my working partner soon to find out why he thought breeze blocks would be strong enough; he should know better than that?

My wife has her A levels in psychology,  my niece is a Dr of psychology and so between them they say the current thinking on this subject is that crudly it's the brain clearing it's self of unwanted rubbish, I have no idea, except dreams like that are not a bother to me in fact they're rather funny.

ippy

Laughter is a sign of shallowness and fear. Like those ignorant sorts who laugh at people who read books and educate themselves but really they laugh because they feel threatened.

The fact that you had to show off that some of your family had psychology qualifications says it all as this is a defence mechanism of the flight reflex.

You keep on laughing, Ippy. 

Strange post?

ippy

I wouldn't expect someone of your simple 'down the pub' laughing manner to understand it.

If were simple and went to the pub or if I went somewhere, anywhere else and had a laugh, it would still, now be two rather strange posts.

ippy

You're still missing my point, which doesn't surprise me.

[Jack Knave]

Laughter is a sign of shallowness and fear.

Eeeeh, you learn summat new every day. Round our way it's always been a sign of being amused by something, which is to say, finding something humorous.

Education is a marvelous thing.

That doesn't explain why we laugh, the root cause of it. Different cultures find different thing funny so it isn't the joke per se that is causing it.

[ippy]

I had a dream this morning; my old working partner and I were putting up a few cupboards in, I've no idea who's kitchen and they were having the railway brought up to the back door of the house, it gets better, the rails had to be at least 4 feet up and I was arguing with my partner about the strength of the breeze blocks he wanted to use and I was pointing out to him that they wouldn't be able to support the weight of a fully loaded railway train; all the way up to the back kitchen door, it was very real at the time.

When you think about it there's a lot of people having the trains pulling up to their back doors these days and a lot of people jumping on when they stop, so that can do their commute to work? Why the 4 foot up? 

Point is Rhi dreams, mine was very real at the time and I'm in my seventies, youngsters and imagination? Lot more of it when any of us are youngsters.   

Imagination.

ippy

P S I really did have that dream this morning, where on Earth did all that lot come from?

Firstly, the emotional content of the dream should be noted. How did you feel in the dream. Secondly, what else was there, if anything; things in the background, and so forth.

Have you had dreams like this before? And nothing can really be said about it until a whole series of dreams are analysed, but may be your missing being at work and useful, and all that(?).

 I can tell you my wife and I had a good laugh about it.

I'm looking forward to seeing my working partner soon to find out why he thought breeze blocks would be strong enough; he should know better than that?

My wife has her A levels in psychology,  my niece is a Dr of psychology and so between them they say the current thinking on this subject is that crudly it's the brain clearing it's self of unwanted rubbish, I have no idea, except dreams like that are not a bother to me in fact they're rather funny.

ippy

Laughter is a sign of shallowness and fear. Like those ignorant sorts who laugh at people who read books and educate themselves but really they laugh because they feel threatened.

The fact that you had to show off that some of your family had psychology qualifications says it all as this is a defence mechanism of the flight reflex.

You keep on laughing, Ippy. 

Strange post?

ippy

I wouldn't expect someone of your simple 'down the pub' laughing manner to understand it.

If were simple and went to the pub or if I went somewhere, anywhere else and had a laugh, it would still, now be two rather strange posts.

ippy

You're still missing my point, which doesn't surprise me.

Three somewhat strange posts.

ippy

[Rhiannon]

Re the OP:

Well, Jack, I'm with Gonners and Rose in that Christians here haven't come forward with their accounts of their relationship with God because it is so personal. But I can see you are genuine with your enquiry and so will share some of my experiences.

Having started out a Christian, I wondered away and into new age philosophy. Here everything was wonderful and 'we are gods'. Huge red flag. This was the lie told to Eve in the garden of Eden. At the same time I was drawn to pantheism which (my own belief, now) is all part of the deception. Lucifer will do anything to draw folk away from the knowledge of the true Creator, Ahayah (God).

At some point, I met someone online that was a great help in showing me how I had been deceived. Then I had a dream that I was in a lake, and standing at the edge was Jesus and three others that I seemed to know were some of the disciples but I didn't know which ones. Jesus held out his hand to me and pulled me out of the water. In the distance was a huge white mansion that appeared to be glowing, radiantly. All very symbolic. I woke the next morning and knew something had changed.

Another account, perhaps more about faith. Many years ago, I was walking home alone and about to be confronted by a group of drunkard youths. I offered up a silent prayer and just surrendered. Almost immediately a rush of wind entered through the top of my head and exited through the area of my chest in the direction of the youths. It was a split second action and I most certainly felt and almost heard the 'whoosh'. To my relief, the group of lads turned in another direction. I haven't experienced anything like that before or since, but it was very real at the time.


(If you have any questions, I have to go out now - grandchild- minding and probably won't be able to get back to you until sometime over the weekend.)

I'd have put money on someone 'showing you where you'd been led astray' Sweeatpea. If you want to know where the evil leading you astray is, look to them; the ideas they have passed onto you lead to persecution of pagans throughout society. I've encountered enough of them in everyday life and on the  Internet -including this forum - to know the damage they do; they are up there with the worst of Christian persecutors of gay people. They work through fear. They do more damage to perfectly innocent people than you can imagine.

Although I'm not New Age I've hung out with enough who are to know that the idea they believe 'we are all gods' is pure fiction. They do often believe that we are all spiritual beings enjoying a physical existence, but that's virtually indistinguishable from the idea of an immortal soul housed in a physical body. But then you still like plenty of New Age things, if I recall correctly from your posts - chakras, quantum stuff, crop circles... why, if it is satanic?

[Jack Knave]

You're still missing my point, which doesn't surprise me.

Three somewhat strange posts.

ippy

Ok, let me put it this way. I'm glad your dreams are keeping you amused and entertained because something has to, even though you don't understand them and they are not intended to be jokes.

I gather that some zoos put TV's in the monkey houses because though the monkeys don't understand what is being shown it keeps them amused and they find them entertaining. Is that clear, Ippy?

[floo]

You're still missing my point, which doesn't surprise me.

Three somewhat strange posts.

ippy

Ok, let me put it this way. I'm glad your dreams are keeping you amused and entertained because something has to, even though you don't understand them and they are not intended to be jokes.

I gather that some zoos put TV's in the monkey houses because though the monkeys don't understand what is being shown it keeps them amused and they find them entertaining. Is that clear, Ippy?

Did the one in your cage keep you amused?

[ippy]

You're still missing my point, which doesn't surprise me.

Three somewhat strange posts.

ippy

Ok, let me put it this way. I'm glad your dreams are keeping you amused and entertained because something has to, even though you don't understand them and they are not intended to be jokes.

I gather that some zoos put TV's in the monkey houses because though the monkeys don't understand what is being shown it keeps them amused and they find them entertaining. Is that clear, Ippy?

Did the one in your cage keep you amused?

Five.

ippy.

[SweetPea]

Re the OP:

Well, Jack, I'm with Gonners and Rose in that Christians here haven't come forward with their accounts of their relationship with God because it is so personal. But I can see you are genuine with your enquiry and so will share some of my experiences.

Having started out a Christian, I wondered away and into new age philosophy. Here everything was wonderful and 'we are gods'. Huge red flag. This was the lie told to Eve in the garden of Eden. At the same time I was drawn to pantheism which (my own belief, now) is all part of the deception. Lucifer will do anything to draw folk away from the knowledge of the true Creator, Ahayah (God).

At some point, I met someone online that was a great help in showing me how I had been deceived. Then I had a dream that I was in a lake, and standing at the edge was Jesus and three others that I seemed to know were some of the disciples but I didn't know which ones. Jesus held out his hand to me and pulled me out of the water. In the distance was a huge white mansion that appeared to be glowing, radiantly. All very symbolic. I woke the next morning and knew something had changed.

Another account, perhaps more about faith. Many years ago, I was walking home alone and about to be confronted by a group of drunkard youths. I offered up a silent prayer and just surrendered. Almost immediately a rush of wind entered through the top of my head and exited through the area of my chest in the direction of the youths. It was a split second action and I most certainly felt and almost heard the 'whoosh'. To my relief, the group of lads turned in another direction. I haven't experienced anything like that before or since, but it was very real at the time.


(If you have any questions, I have to go out now - grandchild- minding and probably won't be able to get back to you until sometime over the weekend.)

From what I gather you aren't a Christian and yet you didn't finish off the Jesus dream and what you thought had changed. If you are not a Christian what did you make of this dream?

Also, what I'm looking for is the personal event that makes people believe what they believe - their outlook on life that takes their God or 'God' to be real. Why do you hold the beliefs you do; what personal experience has given you the internal proof for this?

Due to what I mentioned in my comment, it could be said I'm a 'born again'. This has all happened relatively recently, so perhaps that's what has caused the confusion. There wasn't any more to the 'Jesus' dream. What did it mean? Well, I'm no expert on interpreting dreams but I thought the water connection could be significant as a form of baptism. What had changed? That's something I can't put into words, it was like an awakening and everything suddenly became very clear. Up until then, I would read my Bible and the text was just 'words', now the passages are leaping out at me and resonating in a way they never have before.

I believe there is a Creator and His Creation:
Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning (that’s TIME) God (that’s FORCE) created (that’s ACTION) the heavens (that’s SPACE) and the earth (that’s MATTER). In the first verse of the bible, God said plainly what man didn’t catalogue until the 19th century. All that exists in the universe can be contained in 5 categories: TIME; FORCE; ACTION; SPACE & MATTER, in that sequence.

Throughout my teens I was poorly and latterly hospitialised. During that time I gained great comfort and inner strength from my relationship with God through Jesus Christ. It most certainly guided me through some dark times.

This is going to enable some cognitive dissonance, I'm sure, and so I'll leave it there, for now.