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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2015, 05:42:34 PM »
Anyone going? https://richarddawkins.net/dinnerwithrichard/
Knowing how the antitheists here think I am so obsessed with the man I expect them to move heaven and earth to secure me a place at table.

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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2015, 05:44:13 PM »
We don't have to think it Vlad; your posting record tells the story eloquently all by itself ;)
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2015, 10:19:45 PM »
Anyone going? https://richarddawkins.net/dinnerwithrichard/
In view of the thread title, I was surprised to see who the chance referred to.  I'd be asking to be paid to attend a meal with RD; I would far rather dine with Prof. Brian Cox, or Stephen Hawking.
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2015, 10:27:35 PM »
If it's Hawking, take sandwiches and a flask. You're going to be there a while.

Interesting that you choose Cox and Hawking, neither of them religion-friendly to say the least.
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2015, 10:31:33 PM »
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Attending this dinner qualifies you as a Dawkins Circle member and a VIP of the foundation

It's as though Dawkins has read this forum and decided that, if Vlad is accusing him of religion, he might as well live up to it.
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2015, 04:26:12 AM »
Anyone going? https://richarddawkins.net/dinnerwithrichard/

'A brief candlelight dinner in the dark' sounds rather odd doesn't really sell it does it. Sounds somewhat odd.

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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2015, 08:40:39 AM »
Anyone going? https://richarddawkins.net/dinnerwithrichard/

'A brief candlelight dinner in the dark' sounds rather odd doesn't really sell it does it. Sounds somewhat odd.
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2015, 08:42:18 AM »

“Creepy” is the word.

A little touch of Dick by candlelight?

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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2015, 09:15:22 AM »
Anyone going? https://richarddawkins.net/dinnerwithrichard/
Knowing how the antitheists here think I am so obsessed with the man I expect them to move heaven and earth to secure me a place at table.

Strawboy, you are not under the delusion that people like you? Not that I'm anti-theist. :)
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2015, 09:20:12 AM »
Interesting that you choose Cox and Hawking, neither of them religion-friendly to say the least.
Shaker, does one have to only eat a meal with people who are in agreement with you?  Hawking is, from all I've read and heard of his material, far more honest than Dawkins, willing to treat others with different views as reasonable human beings, unlike the far more dogmatic, single-minded (in this respect) RD who seems to treat those who disagree with him with a degree of disdain.
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2015, 09:24:39 AM »
Hawking is, from all I've read and heard of his material, far more honest than Dawkins
On what basis is Dawkins "far more" dishonest than Hawking? Evidence?

Hawking, remember, considers religious beliefs to be fairy tales for adult children afraid of the dark, i.e. death. Those are his exact words, by the way, not my paraphrase. That's honest and accurate to him and to me as well. Is that honest enough for you? That doesn't sound very much different to anything Dawkins might say. So on what basis do you consider Hawking to be "far more" honest than Dawkins? About what has Dawkins been or is he dishonest? Dishonesty, you'll remember, is a specific thing - not holding an opinion you disagree with, not being accidentally factually incorrect, but conscious and deliberate deception - so I think we'll be needing to see your evidence for this smear.

Obviously none will be forthcoming, as we know of old that you're not in the backing-up-your-assertions business, but you won't be able to say you weren't given the opportunity.

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willing to treat others with different views as reasonable human beings
Even when they're not. Dawkins is one of that band of people who, outside of clinical psychiatry, has probably met more downright unreasonable people than most. There's filmed evidence for many of them.
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unlike the far more dogmatic, single-minded (in this respect) RD who seems to treat those who disagree with him with a degree of disdain.
Examples?

Not that I have any great problem with disdain for disdain-worthy ideas and attitudes, you understand.
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2015, 10:50:15 AM »
Anyone going? https://richarddawkins.net/dinnerwithrichard/

'A brief candlelight dinner in the dark' sounds rather odd doesn't really sell it does it. Sounds somewhat odd.

Sounds to me like an invite from Mrs Bucket.

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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2015, 02:39:41 PM »
According to the link "Spaces are extremely  limited".

You'd think that for what they're charging you'd at least get a decent sized chair...
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2015, 02:40:23 PM »
Doh ::)
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2015, 06:02:49 PM »
If it's Hawking, take sandwiches and a flask. You're going to be there a while.

Interesting that you choose Cox and Hawking, neither of them religion-friendly to say the least.

I would never have dinner with Cox..................knife and fork or chopsticks at a pinch.

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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2015, 06:04:59 PM »
Anyone going? https://richarddawkins.net/dinnerwithrichard/
Knowing how the antitheists here think I am so obsessed with the man I expect them to move heaven and earth to secure me a place at table.

Strawboy, you are not under the delusion that people like you? Not that I'm anti-theist. :)

People tend to........... antitheists like ''no fucker.''

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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2015, 07:49:39 PM »
Anyone going? https://richarddawkins.net/dinnerwithrichard/

'A brief candlelight dinner in the dark' sounds rather odd
I thought so too - the word is candlelit :)
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2015, 09:10:46 PM »
Anyone going? https://richarddawkins.net/dinnerwithrichard/

'A brief candlelight dinner in the dark' sounds rather odd
I thought so too - the word is candlelit :)

I think candlelight is more common in America than candlelit - but both really infer something a bit more romantic than I think it will turn out to be!


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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2015, 09:11:20 PM »
Oh, you never know ;)
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2015, 10:10:51 PM »
OMG. That is beyond parody.

The grand a night thing and the 'exclusive VIP circle' membership is straight out of the USA Life Coaching manual for flogging people a personality cult. Richard's obviously hired himself a marketing guru Stateside.

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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2015, 11:33:31 AM »
According to the link "Spaces are extremely  limited".

You'd think that for what they're charging you'd at least get a decent sized chair...
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2015, 03:19:52 PM »
Examples?
The very filmed evidence you refer to earlier in the post.  I have now seen about half a dozen of them, and I haven't always been in any form of agreement with his opponent, but he has always been pretty unpleasant and rude. 
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Re: A chance to meet "the world's greatest thinker".
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2015, 04:41:45 PM »
I can't call to mind a single example of where he's been unpleasant and rude, not even in situations where it would have been entirely understandable.
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