'The Rapture'

[BeRational]

And when and how do you think the guy will put in an appearance?

When he is ready.

He's nearly 2,000 years late. When are you going to give it up as a bad job?

How long does it take for him to apply his make up?

[Alien]

And when and how do you think the guy will put in an appearance?

When he is ready.

Well he isn't in any hurry!

So what?

[Alien]

And he's still not ready after two thousand years? I've known people like that.

It might be that he doesn't feel that humanity are yet ready for his return.  It could be that, in his love, he doesn't want anyone to ' be left behind' to use the phraseology that has been used before, so he is waiting until everyone believes in him.

I hope we don't get zombies again, scary stuff.

Matthew 27
The tombs also were opened. And many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised, and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many.

Wow! The 2015 Nobel Prize for tenuous links goes to jakswan. (Round of applause).

[Alien]

And he's still not ready after two thousand years? I've known people like that.

It might be that he doesn't feel that humanity are yet ready for his return.  It could be that, in his love, he doesn't want anyone to ' be left behind' to use the phraseology that has been used before, so he is waiting until everyone believes in him.

He'll have a fucking long wait for that, the way things are going.

What a shower of piss-poor madey-uppy excuses. Really. Aren't you people embarrassed to be seen coming out with this stuff?

If that mouthful came from one or two other atheists on this board, I could take it seriously, but you from you, ippy, nope.

[Alien]

What a shower of piss-poor madey-uppy excuses. Really. Aren't you people embarrassed to be seen coming out with this stuff?

Well, 'you people' seem to want to be allowed to change your minds after your deaths.  Is that any less of a 'piss-poor madey-uppy excuse'?

If I'm alive after I'm dead I'll die of shock.

[Alien]

And when and how do you think the guy will put in an appearance?

When he is ready.

He's nearly 2,000 years late. When are you going to give it up as a bad job?

Why should I? It's unlikely he will come back in my lifetime, IMO. I'll probably live, what, 30-40 years more, so why should I think there will be a time when I should give up on it?

Why do you say he is "nearly 2000 years late"?

[Alien]

And when and how do you think the guy will put in an appearance?

When he is ready.

He's nearly 2,000 years late. When are you going to give it up as a bad job?

How long does it take for him to apply his make up?

Wow, this discussion is attracting some really intellectual posts.

Oops.

[BeRational]

And when and how do you think the guy will put in an appearance?

When he is ready.

He's nearly 2,000 years late. When are you going to give it up as a bad job?

How long does it take for him to apply his make up?

Wow, this discussion is attracting some really intellectual posts.

Oops.

Well it's a pretty silly thing to believe in the first place.

There is nothing intelligent about it. In fact the opposite is true.

[Shaker]

And he's still not ready after two thousand years? I've known people like that.

It might be that he doesn't feel that humanity are yet ready for his return.  It could be that, in his love, he doesn't want anyone to ' be left behind' to use the phraseology that has been used before, so he is waiting until everyone believes in him.

He'll have a fucking long wait for that, the way things are going.

What a shower of piss-poor madey-uppy excuses. Really. Aren't you people embarrassed to be seen coming out with this stuff?

If that mouthful came from one or two other atheists on this board, I could take it seriously, but you from you, ippy, nope.

Am I supposed to be impressed?

[Shaker]

And when and how do you think the guy will put in an appearance?

When he is ready.

He's nearly 2,000 years late. When are you going to give it up as a bad job?

How long does it take for him to apply his make up?

Wow, this discussion is attracting some really intellectual posts.

Oops.

I was just thinking that the discussion is pretty well up to the intellectual level of the subject matter, if not more so.

[Alan Burns]

Christ has died
Christ is risen
Christ will come again

I firmly believe this with all my heart and soul.

Aleluia!

[Leonard James]

Christ has died
Christ is risen
Christ will come again

I firmly believe this with all my heart and soul.

Aleluia!

No harm in that, Alan, if it makes you happy.

[ippy]

I only asked which Christians believed in the rapture, that I believe to mean the so called 'second coming'.

The Rapture and the 2nd Coming, whilst interconnected, aren't theologically synonymous, Floo.  That's why I asked for the clarification.  As a result, this 'explanation' doesn't actually provide any clarification. 

There is millennialism:

Millennialism (from millennium, Latin for "thousand years"), or chiliasm in Greek, is a belief held by some Christian denominations that there will be a Golden Age or Paradise on Earth in which "Christ will reign" for 1000 years prior to the final judgment and future eternal state (the "World to Come" of the New Heavens and New Earth). This belief is derived primarily from Revelation 20:1–6. Millennialism is a specific form of millenarianism.

Similarities to millennialism are found in Zoroastrianism. It held that there were successive thousand-year periods, each of which will end in a cataclysm of heresy and destruction, until the final destruction of evil and of the spirit of evil by a triumphant king of peace at the end of the final millennial age (supposed by some to be the year 2000). "Then Saoshyant makes the creatures again pure, and the resurrection and future existence occur" (Zand-i Vohuman Yasht 3:62).

There is amillennialism:

Amillennialism (Greek: a- "no" + millennialism), in Christian eschatology, involves the rejection of the belief that Jesus will have a literal, thousand-year-long, physical reign on the earth. This rejection contrasts with premillennial and some postmillennial interpretations of chapter 20 of the Book of Revelation.

And then there are premillennialism and postmillennialism:

Premillennialism, in Christian eschatology, is the belief that Jesus will physically return to the earth before the Millennium, a literal thousand-year golden age of peace. This return is referred to as the Second Coming.

the doctrine that the Second Coming of Christ will be the culmination of the prophesied millennium of blessedness

(All quotes from wikipedia)

Like it matters.

ippy

[ippy]

If Floo were to get involved in a discussion with you Hope about her version/understanding of rapture, ...

By posing the question that she did in her OP, she had already got 'involved  in a discussion about her version/understanding of rapture,' ippy

Should have read a pointless discussion about her version/understanding of rapture.

ippy

[Shaker]

Christ has died
Christ is risen
Christ will come again

I firmly believe this with all my heart and soul.

Aleluia!

Hm, doubtless you do.

[ippy]

It would be good if I could get the addresses of the Jesus lot here on this thread and send them to topnotchsigns.co hopefully there would be a bit of commission for me I can see them now walking up and down the various high-streets with the a boards on, some with the overhead slogan board too, others with all of that plus the loud hailers.

What a bunch, conjures up a marvelous picture.

ippy   

[Leonard James]

It would be good if I could get the addresses of the Jesus lot here on this thread and send them to topnotchsigns.co hopefully there would be a bit of commission for me I can see them now walking up and down the various high-streets with the a boards on, some with the overhead slogan board too, others with all of that plus the loud hailers.

What a bunch, conjures up a marvelous picture.

ippy

But nowhere near as spectacular as the pride marches. 

[floo]

Christ has died
Christ is risen
Christ will come again

I firmly believe this with all my heart and soul.

Aleluia!

Bully for you! As has been said on a number of occasions, just because you believe something fanciful to be true doesn't make it so!

[jakswan]

And he's still not ready after two thousand years? I've known people like that.

It might be that he doesn't feel that humanity are yet ready for his return.  It could be that, in his love, he doesn't want anyone to ' be left behind' to use the phraseology that has been used before, so he is waiting until everyone believes in him.

I hope we don't get zombies again, scary stuff.

Matthew 27
The tombs also were opened. And many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised, and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many.

Wow! The 2015 Nobel Prize for tenuous links goes to jakswan. (Round of applause).

I think the zombie theme is apt, have you not heard Jesus is alleged to have said 'unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you'.

Thanks for Nobel Prize though!

[Alien]

And he's still not ready after two thousand years? I've known people like that.

It might be that he doesn't feel that humanity are yet ready for his return.  It could be that, in his love, he doesn't want anyone to ' be left behind' to use the phraseology that has been used before, so he is waiting until everyone believes in him.

He'll have a fucking long wait for that, the way things are going.

What a shower of piss-poor madey-uppy excuses. Really. Aren't you people embarrassed to be seen coming out with this stuff?

If that mouthful came from one or two other atheists on this board, I could take it seriously, but you from you, ippy, nope.

Am I supposed to be impressed?

I'm not expecting you to, no.

[Shaker]

Good, because I'm not.

[Leonard James]

It might be that he doesn't feel that humanity are yet ready for his return.  It could be that, in his love, he doesn't want anyone to ' be left behind' to use the phraseology that has been used before, so he is waiting until everyone believes in him.

Then you must give up hope of him ever returning, my friend, because the day will never come when everyone believes in him ... unless somebody invents a mind-control apparatus.

And I am unanimous about that affirmation! (with apologies to Mrs Slocombe)

[~TW~]

So Floo it seems to me you watched the channel 5 film Left Behind which is incorrect and wrong so Floo what rapture are you bloating on about and a scripture might be useful.

  ~TW~

[floo]

So Floo it seems to me you watched the channel 5 film Left Behind which is incorrect and wrong so Floo what rapture are you bloating on about and a scripture might be useful.

  ~TW~

I haven't watched the film, I have read some of those idiot books. For rapture read second coming, which is a nonsense scenario!

[~TW~]

So Floo it seems to me you watched the channel 5 film Left Behind which is incorrect and wrong so Floo what rapture are you bloating on about and a scripture might be useful.

  ~TW~

I haven't watched the film, I have read some of those idiot books. For rapture read second coming, which is a nonsense scenario!

 Well that is wonderful news it shows your brain can see how daft it is,now we must hope that you and your friends might start to see you can produce,no evidence for other life in the universe,and no evidence for nothing producing life.So the good news is their is hope for you .

                ~TW~