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Sassy

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Re: 'The Rapture'
« Reply #150 on: October 01, 2015, 11:42:27 PM »
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Wearing clean underwear would be a bonus, too. Especially if wearing a skirt.

That applies only to Jesus, of course. He's the one you will be staring up at.  ;)

Well, I was thinking of all those people shooting up into the clouds, and the unfortunate view for those left behind...

They will be too busy crying and gritting their teeth to notice. Best buying a gum sheild... :-X

Didn't I hear a Christian call you a heretic, you'll be doing the crying. :)

If you don't know why you should not have written the above then you are not as smart as you think you are.

A Christian as defined by what....

You need to stay within your depth...
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Re: 'The Rapture'
« Reply #151 on: October 01, 2015, 11:46:00 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on October 01, 2015, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: Hope on September 29, 2015, 09:09:37 AM
Quote from: Floo on September 29, 2015, 08:50:44 AM
He gave the impression he would return in the lifetime of his disciples, 'this generation will not pass away', etc.
Unfortunately, Floo, the Greek word that some translators translate as 'generation' in English doesn't necessarily have the same meaning as in English. In Greek, it referred to 'race, family or generation'.
In context, it clearly means "generation". The other meanings are bullshit designed to avoid embarrassment.

I see you kept the banana skin and through the banana away....

The Kingdom being the focus point. Upon his death and resurrection the Kingdom was established even before that generation passed.
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Re: 'The Rapture'
« Reply #152 on: October 02, 2015, 12:00:42 AM »
Quote from: Sassy on October 01, 2015, 11:46:00 PM

The Kingdom being the focus point. Upon his death and resurrection the Kingdom was established even before that generation passed.

Where is it then?
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Re: 'The Rapture'
« Reply #153 on: October 02, 2015, 08:29:01 AM »
Quote from: Sassy on October 01, 2015, 11:46:00 PM
Quote from: jeremyp on October 01, 2015, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: Hope on September 29, 2015, 09:09:37 AM
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He gave the impression he would return in the lifetime of his disciples, 'this generation will not pass away', etc.
Unfortunately, Floo, the Greek word that some translators translate as 'generation' in English doesn't necessarily have the same meaning as in English. In Greek, it referred to 'race, family or generation'.
In context, it clearly means "generation". The other meanings are bullshit designed to avoid embarrassment.

I see you kept the banana skin and through the banana away....

The Kingdom being the focus point. Upon his death and resurrection the Kingdom was established even before that generation passed.

A meaningless statement! ::)
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Re: 'The Rapture'
« Reply #154 on: October 05, 2015, 11:52:09 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on October 02, 2015, 12:00:42 AM
Quote from: Sassy on October 01, 2015, 11:46:00 PM

The Kingdom being the focus point. Upon his death and resurrection the Kingdom was established even before that generation passed.

Where is it then?

It is within....
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Re: 'The Rapture' alias 'second coming'
« Reply #155 on: October 06, 2015, 08:09:23 AM »
Quote from: Andy on September 29, 2015, 11:44:50 AM
You all claim different things, Alan. That there is no Christian consensus is not my fault or my problem, but yours. So instead of the brush off, why not explain what you mean.
Andy, unlike many religions where an adherent's relationship is with a set of rules, Christianity is all about a relationship with a sentient being - the Creator. 

As I am sure you will accept, that type of relationship is always far more diverse and personal than any relationship with sets of rules.  I doubt that, if those of us with siblings were to explain our and our siblings' relationships with our parents, we would say that the relationship was identical for each of us.
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Re: 'The Rapture'
« Reply #156 on: October 06, 2015, 08:43:02 AM »
Quote from: Sassy on October 05, 2015, 11:52:09 PM
Quote from: jeremyp on October 02, 2015, 12:00:42 AM
Quote from: Sassy on October 01, 2015, 11:46:00 PM

The Kingdom being the focus point. Upon his death and resurrection the Kingdom was established even before that generation passed.

Where is it then?

It is within....

All in the mind! ;D
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Re: 'The Rapture' alias 'second coming'
« Reply #157 on: October 06, 2015, 08:53:57 AM »
Quote from: Hope on October 06, 2015, 08:09:23 AM
Quote from: Andy on September 29, 2015, 11:44:50 AM
You all claim different things, Alan. That there is no Christian consensus is not my fault or my problem, but yours. So instead of the brush off, why not explain what you mean.
Andy, unlike many religions where an adherent's relationship is with a set of rules, Christianity is all about a relationship with a sentient being - the Creator. 

As I am sure you will accept, that type of relationship is always far more diverse and personal than any relationship with sets of rules.  I doubt that, if those of us with siblings were to explain our and our siblings' relationships with our parents, we would say that the relationship was identical for each of us.
What has this got to do with anything? Something is either true about Jesus or it is not true. That Jesus took you to feed the ducks but played Subbuteo with your brother is of no consequence.
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Re: 'The Rapture' alias 'second coming'
« Reply #158 on: October 06, 2015, 04:09:57 PM »
Just when you think religionists couldn't get any more daft than they are allready?   

'The Rapture', ludicrous.

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Re: 'The Rapture'
« Reply #159 on: October 06, 2015, 08:54:40 PM »
Quote from: Sassy on October 05, 2015, 11:52:09 PM
Quote from: jeremyp on October 02, 2015, 12:00:42 AM
Quote from: Sassy on October 01, 2015, 11:46:00 PM

The Kingdom being the focus point. Upon his death and resurrection the Kingdom was established even before that generation passed.

Where is it then?

It is within....

So it doesn't really exist then.
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Re: 'The Rapture'
« Reply #160 on: October 07, 2015, 09:47:38 AM »
Quote from: Floo on October 06, 2015, 08:43:02 AM
Quote from: Sassy on October 05, 2015, 11:52:09 PM
Quote from: jeremyp on October 02, 2015, 12:00:42 AM
Quote from: Sassy on October 01, 2015, 11:46:00 PM

The Kingdom being the focus point. Upon his death and resurrection the Kingdom was established even before that generation passed.

Where is it then?

It is within....

All in the mind! ;D

It is all in the Words of Christ ...IN THE BIBLE...


King James Bible
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

What you believe you know about the bible is all in your mind as the things you write clearly prove. When do you intend to read it, so you know what it actually teaches?
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Re: 'The Rapture'
« Reply #161 on: October 07, 2015, 11:57:57 AM »
Quote from: Sassy on October 07, 2015, 09:47:38 AM
Quote from: Floo on October 06, 2015, 08:43:02 AM
Quote from: Sassy on October 05, 2015, 11:52:09 PM
Quote from: jeremyp on October 02, 2015, 12:00:42 AM
Quote from: Sassy on October 01, 2015, 11:46:00 PM

The Kingdom being the focus point. Upon his death and resurrection the Kingdom was established even before that generation passed.

Where is it then?

It is within....

All in the mind! ;D

It is all in the Words of Christ ...IN THE BIBLE...


King James Bible
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

What you believe you know about the bible is all in your mind as the things you write clearly prove. When do you intend to read it, so you know what it actually teaches?

Just as everything you write is in your mind too! ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 'The Rapture'
« Reply #162 on: October 07, 2015, 12:01:46 PM »
Quote from: Floo on October 07, 2015, 11:57:57 AM
Quote from: Sassy on October 07, 2015, 09:47:38 AM
Quote from: Floo on October 06, 2015, 08:43:02 AM
Quote from: Sassy on October 05, 2015, 11:52:09 PM
Quote from: jeremyp on October 02, 2015, 12:00:42 AM
Quote from: Sassy on October 01, 2015, 11:46:00 PM

The Kingdom being the focus point. Upon his death and resurrection the Kingdom was established even before that generation passed.

Where is it then?

It is within....

All in the mind! ;D

It is all in the Words of Christ ...IN THE BIBLE...


King James Bible
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

What you believe you know about the bible is all in your mind as the things you write clearly prove. When do you intend to read it, so you know what it actually teaches?

Just as everything you write is in your mind too! ;D ;D ;D

The quotes are from the Bible, not from Sassy's mind.  I thought you'd read it?  You should know then.
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Re: 'The Rapture' alias 'second coming'
« Reply #163 on: October 08, 2015, 09:38:58 AM »
The second coming has been predicted imminently for centuries, and still no show. ::) Why should it be given anymore credence than the idiots who give specific dates for its ending, like Harold Campion and the US pastor who said it would end yesterday?
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Re: 'The Rapture' alias 'second coming'
« Reply #164 on: October 08, 2015, 09:59:24 AM »
Quote from: Floo on October 08, 2015, 09:38:58 AM
The second coming has been predicted imminently for centuries, and still no show. ::) Why should it be given anymore credence than the idiots who give specific dates for its ending, like Harold Campion and the US pastor who said it would end yesterday?

The signs that would come before it, have not yet happened.
We will all know when Christ returns they won't need to predict it, and it cannot be predicted.

As in the days of the floo-d lol... People will carry on doing everything as normal and bam there it is, the end.
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Re: 'The Rapture' alias 'second coming'
« Reply #165 on: October 08, 2015, 10:02:46 AM »
Quote from: Sassy on October 08, 2015, 09:59:24 AM


The signs that would come before it, have not yet happened.

What signs?
Is there a check-list?
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