The more I read this board the more I believe I need a....

[floo]

Floo,
Something stinks that you forbid the talking of that subject in your home. Yet you spew your hate for the Christian faith of your family members from your home computer constantly.

We don't forbid it, we just don't talk about it. When our kids were young we let them decide for themselves about matters of faith, we didn't influence them either way.

I make no apology for my hatred of the evil 'born again' dogma which spoilt my childhood. I also make no apology for my dislike of that b*tch of a paternal grandmother who gave me nightmares by describing the tortures of hell to me from the age of two. That evil woman beat religion into her own children screaming, 'spare the rod and spoil the child'. She would probably be prosecuted today!

Floo

Sounds awful and I don't think you need to apologise to anyone.

It sounds like it's you, that needs to be apologised to.

Unfortunately there is an unpleasant side to Christianity and it certainly sounds like you got far to much of it.

Presumably you don't have an issue with basic Christian ethics?

Not all Christians seem to put an emphasis on the ethics though, it's about being born again and being saved.

My childhood experiences make me want to challenge extreme Christians who believe if you don't get 'saved' you go to hell and suffer for all eternity. I know children, the vulnerable and gullible are still suffering that sort of emotional abuse to day, and it is SO wrong, It should be illegal especially as there is not one iota of evidence any of it is true.

On the now defunct BBC  forum there was an American woman poster who boasted that she told her kids their grandmother, of whom they were fond, was burning in hell because she was an unbeliever! You have to be sick in the head to do that!

[Rhiannon]

Yes. I knew a woman who prayed with her little children every night 'for daddy to find Jesus so he doesn't go to hell.'

[floo]

Yes. I knew a woman who prayed with her little children every night 'for daddy to find Jesus so he doesn't go to hell.'

Sick!

[Aruntraveller]

Because the powers that be, won't allow it.

I was only reading yesterday that they are making a new series of the X files.

Doo-dodo-doo.

[Sassy]

In Chester the Roman Garrison based their had records of them crucifying Christ.

Would be interested in seeing more about that Sassy. Where does that info come from?

Something you will never get to see. Just as the Nails, the shroud and the spear kept as a witness. People don't keep things like that if they are not real.

They would if they believed they were real.

It came from the Armed forces. But because of the fraility of the records they won't show it publicly.

Sorry - what do you mean by it came from the Armed forces?

Documents can be photographed so even if they are fragile their contents can be seen by researchers. Why isn't this possible?

Because you cannot photograph what only exists in Sassy's imagination?

You would have to get yourself and imagination before you can comment; that is an imagination free from your own fueled one sided outlook.

Talk about the pot calling the ketlle black!

Sassy - living proof that there are none so blind as those who will not see!

You are so far back in the closet of denial you are in Narnia.
No proof of anything you claim in my posts. There is simply your angst and bial showing through. I feel sorry for you that you cannot move past your own feelings to actually learn the truth with an open mind.

[floo]

Sass you have no more idea of the 'truth' than any other human!

[Nearly Sane]

'you can't handle the truth'

[Maeght]

No proof of anything you claim in my posts.

If you can provide the proof to support your claims tah would help. Applies on all 'sides' though of course.

[Rhiannon]

I've found one reference on the web to a legend about Longinus (the centurion with the spear at the crucifixion) later joining the garrison at Chester. It's in a book on Celtic mysteries by a poet and Druid mystic.

[ippy]

I've found one reference on the web to a legend about Longinus (the centurion with the spear at the crucifixion) later joining the garrison at Chester. It's in a book on Celtic mysteries by a poet and Druid mystic.

Didn't Longinus end up in Switzerland?

ippy

[Rhiannon]

You mean he made watches in his retirement?

Actually he seems to have gone to quite a few places, given the number of True Spears that there have been.

[Owlswing]

'you can't handle the truth'

Nice one!

[Owlswing]

In Chester the Roman Garrison based their had records of them crucifying Christ.

Would be interested in seeing more about that Sassy. Where does that info come from?

Something you will never get to see. Just as the Nails, the shroud and the spear kept as a witness. People don't keep things like that if they are not real.

They would if they believed they were real.

It came from the Armed forces. But because of the fraility of the records they won't show it publicly.

Sorry - what do you mean by it came from the Armed forces?

Documents can be photographed so even if they are fragile their contents can be seen by researchers. Why isn't this possible?

Because you cannot photograph what only exists in Sassy's imagination?

You would have to get yourself and imagination before you can comment; that is an imagination free from your own fueled one sided outlook.

Talk about the pot calling the ketlle black!

Sassy - living proof that there are none so blind as those who will not see!

You are so far back in the closet of denial you are in Narnia.
No proof of anything you claim in my posts. There is simply your angst and bial showing through. I feel sorry for you that you cannot move past your own feelings to actually learn the truth with an open mind.

No-one, not even Hope has amind as closed as yours - if it ain't in the Bible it dodn't exists as far as you are concerened.

If your delusion wasn't put forward as religion you would end up in psychiatric care.

[ippy]

You mean he made watches in his retirement?

Actually he seems to have gone to quite a few places, given the number of True Spears that there have been.

Was he on watch?

ippy

[Sassy]

Sass you have no more idea of the 'truth' than any other human!

How come when you write clanging gongs come to mind...

[Sassy]

In Chester the Roman Garrison based their had records of them crucifying Christ.

Would be interested in seeing more about that Sassy. Where does that info come from?

Something you will never get to see. Just as the Nails, the shroud and the spear kept as a witness. People don't keep things like that if they are not real.

They would if they believed they were real.

It came from the Armed forces. But because of the fraility of the records they won't show it publicly.

Sorry - what do you mean by it came from the Armed forces?

Documents can be photographed so even if they are fragile their contents can be seen by researchers. Why isn't this possible?

Because you cannot photograph what only exists in Sassy's imagination?

You would have to get yourself and imagination before you can comment; that is an imagination free from your own fueled one sided outlook.

Talk about the pot calling the ketlle black!

Sassy - living proof that there are none so blind as those who will not see!

You are so far back in the closet of denial you are in Narnia.
No proof of anything you claim in my posts. There is simply your angst and bial showing through. I feel sorry for you that you cannot move past your own feelings to actually learn the truth with an open mind.

No-one, not even Hope has amind as closed as yours - if it ain't in the Bible it dodn't exists as far as you are concerened.

If your delusion wasn't put forward as religion you would end up in psychiatric care.

There goes the voice of misrepresentation and someone who has dug themselves into a hole.

[floo]

Sass you have no more idea of the 'truth' than any other human!

How come when you write clanging gongs come to mind...

Your clanging gong is the loudest on this forum!

[floo]

In Chester the Roman Garrison based their had records of them crucifying Christ.

Would be interested in seeing more about that Sassy. Where does that info come from?

Something you will never get to see. Just as the Nails, the shroud and the spear kept as a witness. People don't keep things like that if they are not real.

They would if they believed they were real.

It came from the Armed forces. But because of the fraility of the records they won't show it publicly.

Sorry - what do you mean by it came from the Armed forces?

Documents can be photographed so even if they are fragile their contents can be seen by researchers. Why isn't this possible?

Because you cannot photograph what only exists in Sassy's imagination?

You would have to get yourself and imagination before you can comment; that is an imagination free from your own fueled one sided outlook.

Talk about the pot calling the ketlle black!

Sassy - living proof that there are none so blind as those who will not see!

You are so far back in the closet of denial you are in Narnia.
No proof of anything you claim in my posts. There is simply your angst and bial showing through. I feel sorry for you that you cannot move past your own feelings to actually learn the truth with an open mind.

No-one, not even Hope has amind as closed as yours - if it ain't in the Bible it dodn't exists as far as you are concerened.

If your delusion wasn't put forward as religion you would end up in psychiatric care.

There goes the voice of misrepresentation and someone who has dug themselves into a hole.

Sass is the mistress of misrepresentation, and her hole is so big she can almost see the centre of the earth!

[Harrowby Hall]

Sass

You have never bothered to explain this:

Contents
1 The beginnings of literature
2 Antiquity
2.1 China
2.2 Hebrew Literature
2.3 Classical antiquity
2.3.1 Greek literature
2.3.2 Latin literature
2.4 India
3 Middle Ages
3.1 Europe
3.2 Islamic world
3.2.1 Arabic literature
3.2.2 Persian literature
3.2.3 Ottoman literature
3.3 Jewish literature
3.4 India
3.5 China
3.6 Japan
4 Renaissance
5 Early modern period
6 Modern literature
6.1 18th century
6.2 19th century
6.3 20th century
7 History of the book
8 See also
9 References
10 External links

What is its relevence to whatever muddled message which you are trying to present?

What is its title? Who wrote it?

[Owlswing]

Sass

You have never bothered to explain this:

Contents
1 The beginnings of literature
2 Antiquity
2.1 China
2.2 Hebrew Literature
2.3 Classical antiquity
2.3.1 Greek literature
2.3.2 Latin literature
2.4 India
3 Middle Ages
3.1 Europe
3.2 Islamic world
3.2.1 Arabic literature
3.2.2 Persian literature
3.2.3 Ottoman literature
3.3 Jewish literature
3.4 India
3.5 China
3.6 Japan
4 Renaissance
5 Early modern period
6 Modern literature
6.1 18th century
6.2 19th century
6.3 20th century
7 History of the book
8 See also
9 References
10 External links

What is its relevence to whatever muddled message which you are trying to present?

What is its title? Who wrote it?

Title - The Christian Book of Religious Rubbish

Author - Sassy

[OH MY WORLD!]

The witches handbook.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HNtIVzBMgc

[Owlswing]

The witches handbook.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HNtIVzBMgc
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Title of said handbook please.

[Sassy]

Sass you have no more idea of the 'truth' than any other human!

How come when you write clanging gongs come to mind...

Your clanging gong is the loudest on this forum!

13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

You lack the love...No love for God or mankind.

[floo]

Sass you have no more idea of the 'truth' than any other human!

How come when you write clanging gongs come to mind...

Your clanging gong is the loudest on this forum!

13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

You lack the love...No love for God or mankind.

I detest the deity portrayed in the Bible that is true. If the deeds attributed to it had any truth in them humans should try to exterminate the evil piece of the proverbial. I try to do my best to help other in need!

[Sassy]

Sass you have no more idea of the 'truth' than any other human!

How come when you write clanging gongs come to mind...

Your clanging gong is the loudest on this forum!

13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

You lack the love...No love for God or mankind.

I detest the deity portrayed in the Bible that is true. If the deeds attributed to it had any truth in them humans should try to exterminate the evil piece of the proverbial. I try to do my best to help other in need!

Do you think mankind has done any better in war times and during history?

What you appear to do is believe that mankind was the same as today. When the things of the old testament came to pass God was dealing with humans who would sacrifice their own children to idols and false gods. When God dealt with the people of the OT it was because their evil surpassed anything we can do today. We still have parents who kill their children or mistreat them. What God did was get rid of such wide spread callousness and so bring mankind to a place where they can be saved and love others.

When we see the evil men did... the bible shows God dealing with evil people in their time. We see him dealing with not so evil people in our time because he got rid of the evil then.

You suggesting child killers; rapist; murderers ad paedos should not be punished?
It was different then because no one cared and no one had any conscience. There is the case where two mothers agree to eat their children.

King James Bible
So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.

You have to be able to reason and understand that they did not have processed food, not tins on shelves in supermarkets. They were horrible times where humans were evil and uncivilised.

God was the one person who in all ages knew the truth about what would eventually happen with these people. I am sure that Gods actions with the people them helped shaped and mold us into the nations we are now. You will always have those who go their own way.But you and I; we need to understand that we have what we have now and our way of life thanks to what God did then.