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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2016, 09:49:48 AM »
I am bumping this topic up again as it has been mentioned a few times on another thread.

If it is already being spoken about on another thread, why does this need bumping up?
Why two threads for the same thing. Or do you mean you wanted to suggest you asked the question first so people should discuss it on your thread? Come on be honest what other purpose could there be?
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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2016, 10:47:51 AM »
If it is already being spoken about on another thread, why does this need bumping up?
Why two threads for the same thing. Or do you mean you wanted to suggest you asked the question first so people should discuss it on your thread? Come on be honest what other purpose could there be?

It was off topic on the other thread, that is why!

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2016, 02:45:08 PM »
I will try bumping this topic up again, more in hope than expectation of a sensible answer to the question of who created god if it exists.

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2016, 02:54:50 PM »
I will try bumping this topic up again, more in hope than expectation of a sensible answer to the question of who created god if it exists.
1: We don't know.
2: He has always existed.

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2016, 03:45:41 PM »
1: We don't know.
2: He has always existed.

We don't know is reasonable, he always existed isn't!

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2016, 03:59:21 PM »
We don't know is reasonable, he always existed isn't!
Alright, have it your way then ..... She has always existed. ;)

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« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2016, 04:00:20 PM »
Alright, have it your way then ..... She has always existed. ;)

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2016, 04:15:10 PM »
I will try bumping this topic up again, more in hope than expectation of a sensible answer to the question of who created god if it exists.
The premise for your question is flawed. I can't blame you, as Richard Dawkins makes the same mistake in The God Delusion.

The question has been answered, so there's nothing I can add that hasn't already been said...
I haven't enough faith to be an atheist.

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2016, 04:16:38 PM »
The premise for your question is flawed. I can't blame you, as Richard Dawkins makes the same mistake in The God Delusion.

The question has been answered, so there's nothing I can add that hasn't already been said...

Why is floored, what is the answer to the question?

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2016, 04:18:11 PM »
Sword,

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The premise for your question is flawed. I can't blame you, as Richard Dawkins makes the same mistake in The God Delusion.

No he doesn't. Stop lying.

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The question has been answered, so there's nothing I can add that hasn't already been said...

No it hasn't. Stop lying.
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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2016, 04:23:10 PM »
We don't know is reasonable, he always existed isn't!
Of course it is.

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2016, 04:45:12 PM »
No he doesn't. Stop lying.
Yes he does! His infinite regression argument at the end of Chapter 3 of The God Delusion where he assumes that not only that God was created, but that most thinking people find the answer for themselves regarding the question of "Who created God"
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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2016, 04:48:22 PM »
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The question has been answered, so there's nothing I can add that hasn't already been said...
No it hasn't. Stop lying.
Floo dismissed an aspect of the answer in her opening post, lol!

The first response:
I must have missed that. Are you mixing up "he was always there" with "he had no beginning"?
He had no beginning! Bingo!! Only that which has a beginning needs a cause.

There are more answers, see e.g. this page.

Not liking the answer doesn't mean the question hasn't been answered.

If you are going to keep up this tactic of yours of asking questions then denying people the tools to answer them, I will have to keep on exposing it.
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I haven't enough faith to be an atheist.

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2016, 04:57:13 PM »
Sword,

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Yes he does! His infinite regression argument at the end of Chapter 3 of The God Delusion where he assumes that not only that God was created, but that most thinking people find the answer for themselves regarding the question of "Who created God"

But your claim was that RD makes a mistake. You've yet to demonstrate that mistake.

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Floo dismissed an aspect of the answer in her opening post, lol!

Because it's not an answer - it's just special pleading.

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He had no beginning! Bingo!! Only that which has a beginning needs a cause.

"He had no beginning" is just an assertion. You may as well say the "the universe" had no beginning and apply Occam's razor.

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Not liking the answer doesn't mean the question hasn't been answered.

That's not what's happened.

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If you are going to keep up this tactic of yours of asking questions then denying people the tools to answer them, I will have to keep on exposing it.

There is no such tactic. If you want to attempt answers that are fallacious, you must expect them to be falsified.
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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2016, 05:00:35 PM »
Of course it is.

If you mean it is reasonable to say god always existed, explain why?

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2016, 05:02:04 PM »
The first response:He had no beginning! Bingo!! Only that which has a beginning needs a cause.

This is a reference to the KCA which is, of course, fallacious - so I can see why it might appeal to you.

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If you are going to keep up this tactic of yours of asking questions then denying people the tools to answer them, I will have to keep on exposing it.

Given your success to date I doubt it, though you will undoubtedly fool yourself in the attempt since you seem insightless regarding your repeated use of fallacies.

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2016, 05:02:32 PM »
Floo dismissed an aspect of the answer in her opening post, lol!

The first response:He had no beginning! Bingo!! Only that which has a beginning needs a cause.

There are more answers, see e.g. this page.

Not liking the answer doesn't mean the question hasn't been answered.

If you are going to keep up this tactic of yours of asking questions then denying people the tools to answer them, I will have to keep on exposing it.

What does that mean, 'he had no beginning'? That is no sort of explanation! ::)

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2016, 05:07:26 PM »
Perhaps Sword and the deity are inextricably linked in some kind of quantum entanglement, yeah ,that'll be it  ::)

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2016, 06:14:48 PM »
Why is this thread in the 'Christian Topic' area?  I have no idea who created Floo's deity, but as it clearly isn't the Christian God, shouldn't this be somewhere else?
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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2016, 06:18:58 PM »
I will try bumping this topic up again, more in hope than expectation of a sensible answer to the question of who created god if it exists.
What do you mean by 'a sensible answer', Floo?  One that you accept as fitting your understanding?  In view of the number of times you have dismissed eminently 'sensible answers' to questions you've posed because they don't fit your thinking, I can't think why anyone should bother with this thread.
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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2016, 06:22:43 PM »
 Well pardon me , I didn't realise Christians had their own god. I thought god was everyone's god. well what do I know?

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2016, 08:25:18 PM »

Alright, have it your way then ..... She has always existed. ;)


That is a step in the right direction, but not, of course, if you happen to be Christian.
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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2016, 08:36:24 PM »
I don't mind God being called, "She".  The fact that Jesus referred to God as his father merely reflects the patriarchal culture into which he was born.  God is a spirit and is neither male nor female so "She" is perfectly acceptable.
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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2016, 08:42:15 PM »
Aww Brownie

I wish you'd tell me how you know all this and I don't.

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Re: Who created the deity?
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2016, 05:32:42 AM »
Aww Brownie

I wish you'd tell me how you know all this and I don't.

You don't know all what?
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