Attitudes and behaviour.

[Shaker]

if you like the yes BA forum so much then bugger off to it... just a suggestion (or a hope)

In a nutshell!

Won't happen though - he loves the attention too much. Anybody else ever noticed (1) any thread on which BA appears is instantly derailed by complete and utter irrelevancies (whinging about swearing, etc.) and (2) no actual discussion of religion or ethics takes place?

[Outrider]

if you like the yes BA forum so much then bugger off to it... just a suggestion (or a hope)

In a nutshell!

Won't happen though - he loves the attention too much. Anybody else ever noticed (1) any thread on which BA appears is instantly derailed by complete and utter irrelevancies (whinging about swearing, etc.) and (2) no actual discussion of religion or ethics takes place?

Does anyone else see that you're actually making his exact point for him? He's here discussing the way people are targetted rather than the arguments, and you revert to attacks on his propensity to derail.

I'm not saying that he doesn't, necessarily, but deal with it if and when it happens.

O.

[Shaker]

if you like the yes BA forum so much then bugger off to it... just a suggestion (or a hope)

In a nutshell!

Won't happen though - he loves the attention too much. Anybody else ever noticed (1) any thread on which BA appears is instantly derailed by complete and utter irrelevancies (whinging about swearing, etc.) and (2) no actual discussion of religion or ethics takes place?

Does anyone else see that you're actually making his exact point for him? He's here discussing the way people are targetted rather than the arguments, and you revert to attacks on his propensity to derail.

I'm not saying that he doesn't, necessarily, but deal with it if and when it happens.

O.

No. According to #101 BA doesn't have a problem with "stating an all-too-obvious fact." Which this is. (Even though his example involved the expression of a personal opinion, not a statement of fact). Doing so isn't insulting - he said so. We have BA's example for this one; I don't see the issue.

[Nearly Sane]

Mmm except he is here starting a discussion about people being insulting and in the OP where he says he is opposed to it, insults people. Should the hypocrisy in that be ignored?

[Shaker]

Mmm except he is here starting a discussion about people being insulting and in the OP where he says he is opposed to it, insults people. Should the hypocrisy in that be ignored?

See #99 for details.

[Nearly Sane]

Why #99 when it is in the OP?

[Shaker]

Why #99 when it is in the OP?

The OP is mostly taken up by an overlong and utterly pointless posting of the rules of another forum. (Closer attendance to the rules of this forum would seem to be in order, I'd have thought). #99 seemed to me a clearer example of the sort of hypocrisy which has been noted by several.

[bluehillside Retd.]

NS,

Mmm except he is here starting a discussion about people being insulting and in the OP where he says he is opposed to it, insults people. Should the hypocrisy in that be ignored?

Sort of. I’m fairly relaxed about his hypocrisy – it’s the old thing about the statement “murder is wrong” not being invalidated if it’s said by a murderer. That the speaker doesn’t follow his own advice says nothing to whether or not that advice is sound. 

What is legitimate though is to point out where he commits a logical fallacy – in this case the ignoratio elenchi: he complains about swearing, but whether he’s right or wrong to do so is irrelevant to his complaint in the OP.

As it happens the OP fails in any case because BA (or the quote of which he approves) wrongly conflates attacking the argument with attacking the person who holds the argument dear, and he seems now to be trying to make us look the other way about that by introducing something else.

[Owlswing]

No, he's gone.

Or so he claims.

I merely left for tea.  Some people actually manage to tear them selves away from this fun place.  Besides, I've developed a little interest in paganism.  More later.

This should be fun

😉🌹

For whom? Having been given an idea elsewhere of BA's knowledge of Paganism it is actually likely to be as much bullshit as he is expending trying to back-pedal on his errors in answering the comments on his OP.

[Owlswing]

. . .  then you are an idiot.

What were you saying about calling poster's mental state into question?

[BashfulAnthony]

No, he's gone.

Or so he claims.

I merely left for tea.  Some people actually manage to tear them selves away from this fun place.  Besides, I've developed a little interest in paganism.  More later.

This should be fun

😉🌹

For whom? Having been given an idea elsewhere of BA's knowledge of Paganism it is actually likely to be as much bullshit as he is expending trying to back-pedal on his errors in answering the comments on his OP.

I have answered the comments on my OP, even though they were, in the main, fallacious and absurd.  It's a bit rich, you throwing in your tuppence worth,  you being one of the leading proponents of the vile practice of denigration seen on here. 

[BashfulAnthony]

. . .  then you are an idiot.

What were you saying about calling poster's mental state into question?

Do you ever have any cleat idea what you are talking about?  I don't!

[bluehillside Retd.]

BA,

I have answered the comments on my OP, even though they were, in the main, fallacious and absurd.

No you haven't and no they weren't.

  It's a bit rich, you throwing in your tuppence worth,  you being one of the leading proponents of the vile practice of denigration seen on here.

Can I assume that you won't trouble yourself with giving us some examples of this supposed "vile practices and denigration" - presumably things like calling another poster "an idiot"?

[BashfulAnthony]

. . .  then you are an idiot.

What were you saying about calling poster's mental state into question?

Floo has just used the same word in the topic"Topic for going off topic,"  m227.  So I guess you are doubting her mental state then.

[Owlswing]

BA,

I have answered the comments on my OP, even though they were, in the main, fallacious and absurd.

No you haven't and no they weren't.

  It's a bit rich, you throwing in your tuppence worth,  you being one of the leading proponents of the vile practice of denigration seen on here.

Can I assume that you won't trouble with giving some examples of this supposed "vile practices and denigration" - presumably things like calling another poster "an idiot"?

"Vile practices" probably means his ideas of what pagan rituals are - his ideas being based upon a load of rubbish promoted by those Christians who know (BA COVER YOUR EYES) absolutely fuck all about what pagans actually do.

[BashfulAnthony]

BA,

I have answered the comments on my OP, even though they were, in the main, fallacious and absurd.

No you haven't and no they weren't.

  It's a bit rich, you throwing in your tuppence worth,  you being one of the leading proponents of the vile practice of denigration seen on here.

Can I assume that you won't trouble with giving some examples of this supposed "vile practices and denigration" - presumably things like calling another poster "an idiot"?

"Vile practices" probably means his ideas of what pagan rituals are - his ideas being based upon a load of rubbish promoted by those Christians who know (BA COVER YOUR EYES) absolutely fuck all about what pagans actually do.

Yes, it's very apparent how you never enlighten the forum about your beliefs and practices, but are only too ready to criticise Christianity.  The word,"hypocrite," springs to mind!

[SusanDoris]

It is not insulting to state an all-to-obvious fact.  If you don't like it, mend your attitudes.

What a monumental hypocrite.

I do so agree.
The phrase, 'chip on shoulder' springs inevitably to mind,.

[BashfulAnthony]

It is not insulting to state an all-to-obvious fact.  If you don't like it, mend your attitudes.

What a monumental hypocrite.

I do so agree.
The phrase, 'chip on shoulder' springs inevitably to mind,.

And wrongly!   

[Samuel]

BA,

I have answered the comments on my OP, even though they were, in the main, fallacious and absurd.

No you haven't and no they weren't.

  It's a bit rich, you throwing in your tuppence worth,  you being one of the leading proponents of the vile practice of denigration seen on here.

Can I assume that you won't trouble with giving some examples of this supposed "vile practices and denigration" - presumably things like calling another poster "an idiot"?

"Vile practices" probably means his ideas of what pagan rituals are - his ideas being based upon a load of rubbish promoted by those Christians who know (BA COVER YOUR EYES) absolutely fuck all about what pagans actually do.

Yes, it's very apparent how you never enlighten the forum about your beliefs and practices, but are only too ready to criticise Christianity.  The word,"hypocrite," springs to mind!

Are you serious? Do you actually read CMG's posts? Seems to me he is one of the more explicit about what his beliefs and practices are.

[bluehillside Retd.]

BA,

Yes, it's very apparent how you never enlighten the forum about your beliefs and practices, but are only too ready to criticise Christianity.  The word,"hypocrite," springs to mind!

Even if that was true, it's not what "hypocrite" means.

[BashfulAnthony]

BA,

Yes, it's very apparent how you never enlighten the forum about your beliefs and practices, but are only too ready to criticise Christianity.  The word,"hypocrite," springs to mind!

Even if that was true, it's not what "hypocrite" means.

You're still there!  I'm beginning to feel I'm being stalked here.

[bluehillside Retd.]

BA,

You're still there!  I'm beginning to feel I'm being stalked here.

Further evasion noted.

[Owlswing]

BA,

I have answered the comments on my OP, even though they were, in the main, fallacious and absurd.

No you haven't and no they weren't.

  It's a bit rich, you throwing in your tuppence worth,  you being one of the leading proponents of the vile practice of denigration seen on here.

Can I assume that you won't trouble with giving some examples of this supposed "vile practices and denigration" - presumably things like calling another poster "an idiot"?

"Vile practices" probably means his ideas of what pagan rituals are - his ideas being based upon a load of rubbish promoted by those Christians who know (BA COVER YOUR EYES) absolutely fuck all about what pagans actually do.

Yes, it's very apparent how you never enlighten the forum about your beliefs and practices, but are only too ready to criticise Christianity.  The word,"hypocrite," springs to mind!

Alright, so you're blind as well - look at the pagan topic.

I am always happy to answer direct questions about my beliefs and that does not mean the crap thrown at me in the guise of enquiry by idiots like JC.

I will also not reply to people who dismiss my beliefs as nonsense because I believe in magic.

You want to ask about my beliefs? Go the the Pagan Topic and post your questions.

[Owlswing]

BA,

I have answered the comments on my OP, even though they were, in the main, fallacious and absurd.

No you haven't and no they weren't.

  It's a bit rich, you throwing in your tuppence worth,  you being one of the leading proponents of the vile practice of denigration seen on here.

Can I assume that you won't trouble with giving some examples of this supposed "vile practices and denigration" - presumably things like calling another poster "an idiot"?

"Vile practices" probably means his ideas of what pagan rituals are - his ideas being based upon a load of rubbish promoted by those Christians who know (BA COVER YOUR EYES) absolutely fuck all about what pagans actually do.

Yes, it's very apparent how you never enlighten the forum about your beliefs and practices, but are only too ready to criticise Christianity.  The word,"hypocrite," springs to mind!

Are you serious? Do you actually read CMG's posts? Seems to me he is one of the more explicit about what his beliefs and practices are.

Your servant, Sir. (doffs hat)!

[jeremyp]

You are, then, under the impression that effing and blinding is not personal abuse

If I were to say Bashful Anthony is a fuckwit. That would be personal abuse. If I say "fuck off" that is not personal abuse, it is telling you to go away.

when debating with someone.

If I tell you to fuck off, it is a signal to you that I have stopped debating with you.

and your "debating" standards.

But it's very rare that I lose my patience to the point that I deliver personal insults. For you, however, insults are pretty much all there is.