Rise the Christian Right

[jakswan]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06g59c3/we-want-our-country-back

Documentary about Britain First party. Just starting watching, it started with one of their supporters shouting 'we are a Christian country'.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06g59c3/we-want-our-country-back

Documentary about Britain First party. Just starting watching, it started with one of their supporters shouting 'we are a Christian country'.

Yes Jak, and toilets have ''Gentlemen'' written on them when the word ''men'' is far more appropriate.

Secondly this hasn't been a ''christian'' country for decades.

[jakswan]

Wow you said something I agree with Srawboy!

Finished watching it, two sad individuals who are utterly deluded. 

[Aruntraveller]

Wow you said something I agree with Srawboy!

Finished watching it, two sad individuals who are utterly deluded.

Yes - I watched this and that was the conclusion I came to. The woman certainly seemed to me to be very vulnerable.

[Anchorman]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06g59c3/we-want-our-country-back

Documentary about Britain First party. Just starting watching, it started with one of their supporters shouting 'we are a Christian country'.

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If BF are Christian, then I'm a chicken curry.

[Outrider]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06g59c3/we-want-our-country-back

Documentary about Britain First party. Just starting watching, it started with one of their supporters shouting 'we are a Christian country'.

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If BF are Christian, then I'm a chicken curry.

Strange. Of all the ridiculous shite they spout, their religious affiliation is something I'm quite prepared to accept.

O.

[Anchorman]

Eh?
Exactly which Christ-like qualities have that bunch of neo-Nazis shown, Outrider?

[Outrider]

Eh?
Exactly which Christ-like qualities have that bunch of neo-Nazis shown, Outrider?

They believe in Jesus is the son of God, that makes them Christian.

O.

[Rhiannon]

A cat has for legs, my dog has four legs, therefore my dog is a cat?

[floo]

Sadly Christianity seems to host the sublime to the ridiculous and evil!

[Outrider]

A cat has for legs, my dog has four legs, therefore my dog is a cat?

If that's the only criterion you have, then yes, all quadrupeds are cats. What are the criteria for being a Christian? Where's the 'official' check-list? On what are we basing the judgment?

What is more defining for Christianity than accepting that Jesus is the son of God?

O.

[Rhiannon]

Depends who you ask.

[jakswan]

Eh?
Exactly which Christ-like qualities have that bunch of neo-Nazis shown, Outrider?

I know some Christians who are nationalist.

[Anchorman]

Eh?
Exactly which Christ-like qualities have that bunch of neo-Nazis shown, Outrider?

They believe in Jesus is the son of God, that makes them Christian.

O.

"By this shall all men know that you are My disciples...that  you love one another."
"Love your neighbour as you love yourself."

"Forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors."

"Turn the other cheek"
"For as much as you did these things to these, the least of My brothers, you did them for Me".....


Jesus Christ.


Qualities the BF seem to lack in abundance.

[Anchorman]

Eh?
Exactly which Christ-like qualities have that bunch of neo-Nazis shown, Outrider?

I know some Christians who are nationalist.

And I know many Christians who are both nationalist and internationalist.

[Outrider]

Eh?
Exactly which Christ-like qualities have that bunch of neo-Nazis shown, Outrider?

They believe in Jesus is the son of God, that makes them Christian.

O.

"By this shall all men know that you are My disciples...that  you love one another."
"Love your neighbour as you love yourself."

"Forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors."

"Turn the other cheek"
"For as much as you did these things to these, the least of My brothers, you did them for Me".....


Jesus Christ.


Qualities the BF seem to lack in abundance.

And the Westboro Baptists, and the Roman Catholics... that's your definition of Christianity, other people would claim that your version isn't 'truly' Christian, and there's is.

From the outside you're all equally (in)valid claimants. How am I to judge which of you is genuinely Christian when I don't think the claim has any justification in the first place?

O.

[Anchorman]

Eh?
Exactly which Christ-like qualities have that bunch of neo-Nazis shown, Outrider?

They believe in Jesus is the son of God, that makes them Christian.

O.

"By this shall all men know that you are My disciples...that  you love one another."
"Love your neighbour as you love yourself."

"Forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors."

"Turn the other cheek"
"For as much as you did these things to these, the least of My brothers, you did them for Me".....


Jesus Christ.


Qualities the BF seem to lack in abundance.

And the Westboro Baptists, and the Roman Catholics... that's your definition of Christianity, other people would claim that your version isn't 'truly' Christian, and there's is.

From the outside you're all equally (in)valid claimants. How am I to judge which of you is genuinely Christian when I don't think the claim has any justification in the first place?

O.

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I'd suggest that those who are not Christian judge those who claim to be by their adherance to not only the words, but the deeds of the one they claim to follow - namely Jesus.

[Outrider]

I'd suggest that those who are not Christian judge those who claim to be by their adherance to not only the words, but the deeds of the one they claim to follow - namely Jesus.

That's a judgment, perhaps, on whether they are 'good' at Christianity, but are bad Christians still not Christians?

O.

[Sassy]

Eh?
Exactly which Christ-like qualities have that bunch of neo-Nazis shown, Outrider?

According to the Bible, 666 is an evil number, and represents the beast, or the anti-Christ. But to Muslims, this is a holy number.Which interpretation do you choose?

Whatever is said makes no difference... God wins in the end.

[jakswan]

Eh?
Exactly which Christ-like qualities have that bunch of neo-Nazis shown, Outrider?

I know some Christians who are nationalist.

And I know many Christians who are both nationalist and internationalist.

Well one could argue 'Christ-like' qualities would preclude any form of nationalism. Actually I have no idea what 'Christ-like' qualities are so perhaps you could explain that first. 

[Anchorman]

Eh?
Exactly which Christ-like qualities have that bunch of neo-Nazis shown, Outrider?

I know some Christians who are nationalist.

And I know many Christians who are both nationalist and internationalist.

Well one could argue 'Christ-like' qualities would preclude any form of nationalism. Actually I have no idea what 'Christ-like' qualities are so perhaps you could explain that first.

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I'd have thought that any reading of the words, deeds and actions of Jesus would do the explaining for me.

[Outrider]

Eh?
Exactly which Christ-like qualities have that bunch of neo-Nazis shown, Outrider?

I know some Christians who are nationalist.

And I know many Christians who are both nationalist and internationalist.

Well one could argue 'Christ-like' qualities would preclude any form of nationalism. Actually I have no idea what 'Christ-like' qualities are so perhaps you could explain that first.

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I'd have thought that any reading of the words, deeds and actions of Jesus would do the explaining for me.

We'd think that, too, but then there wouldn't be thousands of different sects of the cult... and yet there are.

O.

[jeremyp]

Eh?
Exactly which Christ-like qualities have that bunch of neo-Nazis shown, Outrider?

I think it's the Christian-like qualities of intolerance and bigotry...

[Hope]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06g59c3/we-want-our-country-back

Documentary about Britain First party. Just starting watching, it started with one of their supporters shouting 'we are a Christian country'.

Can a country be 'Christian'?  Can it be Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, Pagan, ...?

[Outrider]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06g59c3/we-want-our-country-back

Documentary about Britain First party. Just starting watching, it started with one of their supporters shouting 'we are a Christian country'.

Can a country be 'Christian'?  Can it be Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, Pagan, ...?

It can be, where the fact that it has official faith which is written into the legislature, where religious figures are explicitly part of the political system and so on - currently I believe that means it's just Saudi Arabia and the UK... although I suspect ISIS would like to be included, but I don't think anyone's recognising them as a country at the moment.

O.