I thought I left room for atheists who do not prefer the cariciture presentations
of Christians as hellfire merchants to escape any generalisation.
Its not a 'caricature' since there are Christians who are hell fire merchants.
you have misunderstood my post.
As a matter of interest what model of hell do you think Christians typically hold?
I don't think there is a typical view, Christians believe in sorts of hell.
Also there must be reasons why you think what Jesus is irrelevant. Although you are quite at liberty not to share it us I think it makes you look a bit snipey.
I never said he was irrelevant.