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'Witchcraft' abuse cases on the rise in the UK
« on: October 11, 2015, 11:54:01 AM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34475424

It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraft and should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2015, 12:33:48 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34475424

It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraft and should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

I agree: it is a nasty, pagan-type practice, and should be shunned, along with such things as poltergeist "visions."

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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2015, 12:38:34 PM »
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It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraft and should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

Belief in spirits, bad or good, is the stuff of fairy tales, swallowed only by the credulous.

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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2015, 12:44:32 PM »
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It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraft and should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

Belief in spirits, bad or good, is the stuff of fairy tales, swallowed only by the credulous.

Which is why we have always looked for a natural explanation when faced with something weird!

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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2015, 12:46:11 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34475424

It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraft and should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

Belief in spirits, bad or good, is the stuff of fairy tales, swallowed only by the credulous.

Which is why we have always looked for a natural explanation when faced with something weird!

And there will always be one, Roses, no matter how long it takes to surface.

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2015, 12:51:44 PM »
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It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraft and should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

Belief in spirits, bad or good, is the stuff of fairy tales, swallowed only by the credulous.

Which is why we have always looked for a natural explanation when faced with something weird!

I don't think you have the credibility to say such a thing!   ;)

By the way, what is "natural."
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2015, 01:36:29 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34475424

It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraft and should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

Belief in spirits, bad or good, is the stuff of fairy tales, swallowed only by the credulous.

Which is why we have always looked for a natural explanation when faced with something weird!

I don't think you have the credibility to say such a thing!   ;)

By the way, what is "natural."

It's natural to have a number of people that believe in unfounded nonsense, like you do BA.

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2015, 01:38:59 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34475424

It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraft and should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

Belief in spirits, bad or good, is the stuff of fairy tales, swallowed only by the credulous.

Which is why we have always looked for a natural explanation when faced with something weird!

I don't think you have the credibility to say such a thing!   ;)

By the way, what is "natural."

It's natural to have a number of people that believe in unfounded nonsense, like you do BA.

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It's also natural to be surrounded by uninformed semi-literate, or indeed, illiterate people in religious terms, such as you.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2015, 01:44:02 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34475424

It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraft and should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

Belief in spirits, bad or good, is the stuff of fairy tales, swallowed only by the credulous.

Which is why we have always looked for a natural explanation when faced with something weird!

And there will always be one, Roses, no matter how long it takes to surface.

I agree. Science will get there in the end. What we take for granted today would have seemed supernatural a few hundred years ago, like electricity for instance.


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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2015, 01:45:11 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34475424

It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraft and should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

Belief in spirits, bad or good, is the stuff of fairy tales, swallowed only by the credulous.

Which is why we have always looked for a natural explanation when faced with something weird!

And there will always be one, Roses, no matter how long it takes to surface.

I agree. Science will get there in the end. What we take for granted today would have seemed supernatural a few hundred years ago, like electricity for instance.

And that applies to all things religious as well;  and even to poltergeists!
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2015, 01:51:36 PM »

I agree. Science will get there in the end. What we take for granted today would have seemed supernatural a few hundred years ago, like electricity for instance.

And that applies to all things religious as well;  and even to poltergeists!

Quite! You are surprisingly sensible at times, Tony.  ;D

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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2015, 01:53:40 PM »

I agree. Science will get there in the end. What we take for granted today would have seemed supernatural a few hundred years ago, like electricity for instance.

And that applies to all things religious as well;  and even to poltergeists!

Quite! You are surprisingly sensible at times, Tony.  ;D

Well, how kind  -  but it's true, though I would suggest, "all the time."   
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2015, 01:55:17 PM »


Well, how kind  -  but it's true, though I would suggest, "all the time."

Well, that is a tad conceited of you, my boy. Even I can be wrong sometimes!  ;)

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Well, how kind  -  but it's true, though I would suggest, "all the time."

Well, that is a tad conceited of you, my boy. Even I can be wrong sometimes!  ;)

Actually, conceit is not really a fault of mine; in fact, I have no faults, except perhaps, modesty.   :)
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2015, 02:10:23 PM »

Actually, conceit is not really a fault of mine; in fact, I have no faults, except perhaps, modesty.   :)

Touché!

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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2015, 02:33:45 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34475424

It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraft and should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

Belief in spirits, bad or good, is the stuff of fairy tales, swallowed only by the credulous.

Which is why we have always looked for a natural explanation when faced with something weird!

I don't think you have the credibility to say such a thing!   ;)

By the way, what is "natural."

It's natural to have a number of people that believe in unfounded nonsense, like you do BA.

ippy

It's also natural to be surrounded by uninformed semi-literate, or indeed, illiterate people in religious terms, such as you.

I couldn't help noticing that you held back on the abuse there BA, much appreciated.

I take it by your kind response that you still, as yet, just like Hope haven't managed to find anything that would evidentially support your religious beliefs anymore than these 'Witchcraft' people, are able to evidentially support their nonsense and this made me wonder; have you found any verifiable evidence that might support you religious beliefs yet?

Thing is your evaluation of how to define what is in fact natural and what isn't, would gain some at least some credibility if you were able to verify there is more to your beliefs than you are able quantify at the moment, only at present your handicap is showing you have quite a severe lack of ability in this area.

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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2015, 02:37:53 PM »

Thing is your evaluation of how to define what is in fact natural and what isn't, would gain some at least some credibility if you were able to verify there is more to your beliefs than you are able quantify at the moment, only at present your handicap is showing you have quite a severe lack of ability in this area.

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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2015, 02:40:41 PM »
What gets me is that people who condemn people playing at being witches, and the subsequent mumbo jumbo which goes with that silliness, can't see that some practices associated with Christianity are equally daft.

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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2015, 02:44:20 PM »

Thing is your evaluation of how to define what is in fact natural and what isn't, would gain some at least some credibility if you were able to verify there is more to your beliefs than you are able quantify at the moment, only at present your handicap is showing you have quite a severe lack of ability in this area.

ippy

You can't get blood from a stone, Ippy.

I was more thinking of a 25foot crank, if you're with me?

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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2015, 02:46:16 PM »
What gets me is that people who condemn people playing at being witches, and the subsequent mumbo jumbo which goes with that silliness, can't see that some practices associated with Christianity are equally daft.

The way most Christian leaders dress themselves up for their rituals is quite idiotic ... but they wear some lovely colours!  ;D

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Re: 'Witchcraft' abuse cases on the rise in the UK
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2015, 02:47:02 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34475424

It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraftand should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

Explanation of your basis for the highlighted please.
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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2015, 02:48:40 PM »


I was more thinking of a 25foot crank, if you're with me?

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'Fraid not, Ippy, but I haven't been following the thread much.

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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2015, 02:49:26 PM »
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It is so sick that extremist faith merchants accuse people of witchcraft and seek to have them exorcised, which is abusive. I believe that is what happened to that poor little girl, Victoria Climbie, before she was killed by her evil aunt some years ago. Exorcisms are daft mumbo jumbo, no different to witchcraft and should be totally illegal if kids and the vulnerable are subjected to them.

I agree: it is a nasty, pagan-type practice, and should be shunned, along with such things as poltergeist "visions."

In what way is thge OP describing a "pagan type practice"?
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2015, 03:02:24 PM »


I agree: it is a nasty, pagan-type practice, and should be shunned, along with such things as poltergeist "visions."

You should have read the article. It's about people accusing others of witchcraft, not about witchcraft itself.
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2015, 03:03:37 PM »


It's also natural to be surrounded by uninformed semi-literate, or indeed, illiterate people in religious terms, such as you.

Anthony breaks his own rules again.
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