Christians a few tips in your daily walk

[bluehillside Retd.]

TW,

Wrong I ask a question which you say is based on fact,but then I find you cannot support the fact.

Do you want to unscramble that into some kind of comprehensible sentence?

[jeremyp]

TW,

Wrong I ask a question which you say is based on fact,but then I find you cannot support the fact.

Do you want to unscramble that into some kind of comprehensible sentence?

Of course he doesn't. He is the proverbial empty vessel and he thinks being incomprehensible stops people from realising that.

[~TW~]

TW,

Wrong I ask a question which you say is based on fact,but then I find you cannot support the fact.

Do you want to unscramble that into some kind of comprehensible sentence?

 Yes try this, when did nothing start to evolve.

   ~TW~

[BeRational]

TW,

Wrong I ask a question which you say is based on fact,but then I find you cannot support the fact.

Do you want to unscramble that into some kind of comprehensible sentence?

 Yes try this, when did nothing start to evolve.

   ~TW~

Around the time your god was created.

[Sebastian Toe]

TW,

Wrong I ask a question which you say is based on fact,but then I find you cannot support the fact.

Do you want to unscramble that into some kind of comprehensible sentence?

 Yes try this, when did nothing start to evolve.

   ~TW~

you'd just move to another question until you got to a "dunno" and then proclaim again, "Ha! It must be God then" whereas in fact a "don't know" implies no such thing.

If ever you could grasp the fallacious argument you're relying on it would save everyone here an awful lot of time.

blue, if you would be so kind as to supply us with six numbers between 1 and 59 before 7.30 Saturday, please?

[~TW~]

Leave it for the girls to sort out,these people remind me of the JW.s

                   ~TW~

[2Corrie]

Leave it for the girls to sort out,these people remind me of the JW.s

                   ~TW~

Good morning TW and we are left with this

 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

[floo]

Leave it for the girls to sort out,these people remind me of the JW.s

                   ~TW~

Good morning TW and we are left with this

 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

What a b*stard your version of the deity is!

[bluehillside Retd.]

TW,

Yes try this, when did nothing start to evolve.

That's new - usually you just confuse the origin of life itself with evolution (which applies to life once it's started), but now you've added another confusion by including "nothing" into your misunderstanding. I guess that's what you get when you rely for your knowledge of science on a 100+ year old book of nonsense authored by a vicar with no apparent scientific knowledge of any kind.

Briefly, evolution is well understood in a theory and massively supported by evidence and it concerns speciation.

The origin of life on the other hand is a different matter, and we're getting closer to understanding that too - for example with the recent discovery of the spontaneous formation in the right circumstances of RNA (the precursor to DNA). 

Why there is something rather than nothing on the other hand is a different matter entirely, and there are competing hypotheses about that but as yet no conclusive answer.

None of which you're actually interested in, and none of which has anything to do with your basic mistake in reasoning - namely that you think that when the answer is "don't know" that allows in your answer of "god" despite no definition of the term, no evidence of any kind for it and no meaningful logic to support it.

That doesn't mean necessarily that there is no god of course, but it does mean that your attempt at reasoning your way to it is hopeless.   

[bluehillside Retd.]

Seb,

blue, if you would be so kind as to supply us with six numbers between 1 and 59 before 7.30 Saturday, please?

I know - spooky eh?

What's disheartening about TW is that not only does he not understand the question(s) he's attempting, he doesn't understand the stupidity of asking them as a means to establish his god either.

Ah well.

[Leonard James]

Seb,

blue, if you would be so kind as to supply us with six numbers between 1 and 59 before 7.30 Saturday, please?

I know - spooky eh?

What's disheartening about TW is that not only does he not understand the question(s) he's attempting, he doesn't understand the stupidity of asking them as a means to establish his god either.

Ah well.

Minds addled by religious indoctrination can understand nothing but their programming.

[floo]

I can never quite work out if TW is a wind up merchant, and is having a 'larf' when we take his nonsense seriously, or he really believes it to be true? Either way it is rather sad.

[~TW~]

Why don't you lot take an early bath.Evolution is the height of insanity.

 ~TW~

 

[floo]

Why don't you lot take an early bath.Evolution is the height of insanity.

 ~TW~

If you really believe that to be true, I suggest you seek urgent help of the medical kind! 

[ippy]

Why don't you lot take an early bath.Evolution is the height of insanity.

 ~TW~

If you really believe that to be true, I suggest you seek urgent help of the medical kind! 

Seconded.

ippy

[Spud]

I have a bath on my allotment; I'm expecting life to evolve in it imminently.

[torridon]

I have a bath on my allotment; I'm expecting life to evolve in it imminently.

You can count on it.  Ask any microbiologist, viruses and bacteria evolve at enormous speeds.  Creatures with longer reproduction cycles will obviously take longer 

[Spud]

Torridon, You're right, bacteria evolve from preexisting bacteria. They would already be present in the bath tub.

[~TW~]

Spud for the past 50 years atheist and evolutionist have been listening for signs of life out there so far nothing.

 Sending up cameras to search,so far nothing.Having found nothing they, now kid each other nothing evolved to produce something.

 Not the slightest shred of nothing has been found .

~TW~

[jjohnjil]

Spud for the past 50 years atheist and evolutionist have been listening for signs of life out there so far nothing.

 Sending up cameras to search,so far nothing.Having found nothing they, now kid each other nothing evolved to produce something.

 Not the slightest shred of nothing has been found .

~TW~

It's sad that someone in the 21st Century can still be living in the 16th!  Not a good reflection on whatever school tried to educate TW.  Where did my taxes go to, I feel robbed!   

[Gordon]

Spud for the past 50 years atheist and evolutionist have been listening for signs of life out there so far nothing.

 Sending up cameras to search,so far nothing.Having found nothing they, now kid each other nothing evolved to produce something.

 Not the slightest shred of nothing has been found .

~TW~

The Earth is teeming with life TW and has been for many millions of years, which is quite sufficient to demonstrate that evolution is is fact and that the TofE, which is subject to revision as new evidence becomes available, is the best explanation we have for this fact.

Extra-terrestrial evidence, aside from being impractical as things stand, isn't essential since there is plenty of the terrestrial variety to demonstrate that evolution is a fact.

[bluehillside Retd.]

TW,

Why don't you lot take an early bath.Evolution is the height of insanity.

Yes we’re ware of your personal opinion on the matter, supported as it is by a century-old book written by a scientifically illiterate cleric and a bunch of lying websites but unfortunately ranged against you is overwhelming evidence to the contrary: countless thousands of experiments that have shown evolution to happen in practice; a theory arguably more robust than the theories of gravity and of germs causing disease that’s been exhaustively tested and whose prediction have consistently been shown to be correct; the whole field of medical applications of new treatments that rely precisely on evolutionary theory and practice and that may for all I know already have been used to treat you and yours of your ailments.

Even if you could disentangle your confusions about the origins of matter and energy, the beginning of life itself, and evolution acting on that life; and even if you could grasp that the argument from personal incredulity you’re attempting is logically hopeless – because even if the answers to your questions were “don’t know” that would move you not one micron towards an argument for a god – you would still be confronted by the monolithic body of evidence that shows you to be flatly, unequivocally, categorically wrong.     

Whence then "the height of insanity"?

[bluehillside Retd.]

Spud,

Torridon, You're right, bacteria evolve from preexisting bacteria. They would already be present in the bath tub.

Like TW, you seem entirely unable to grasp that the origin of life itself and speciation are entirely different things, and that evolution is only relevant to the latter.

If you really want to parade your ignorance here could you at least try to identify your target before taking fire? 

[bluehillside Retd.]

TW,

Spud for the past 50 years atheist and evolutionist have been listening for signs of life out there so far nothing.

 Sending up cameras to search,so far nothing.Having found nothing they, now kid each other nothing evolved to produce something.

 Not the slightest shred of nothing has been found .

First, that's not the job of "evolutionists".

Second have you any notion at all of how vanishingly small 50 years is in comparison with the 14 billion + years of the age of the Universe, and of the time it would take for messages from civilisations even in the next galaxy along to get here let alone the time they would take to get here from the 100 billion or so other galaxies out there?

Any notion at all?

Anything?

For all you know the Universe is teeming with life, and 50 years of looking wouldn't be even a fraction of an iota of a drop in the ocean of the places we've been able to investigate so far.

Good grief!     

[Outrider]

Why don't you lot take an early bath.Evolution is the height of insanity.

 ~TW~

No, evolution is an observed phenomenon. What do you think causes anti-biotic resistant strains of bacteria?

O.