Stress!

[Sriram]

Hi everyone,

Try this video. Its good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-V9q5ZemS0

[Sriram]

Anyone actually viewed the video? Its fairly short...about 2-3 minutes.

[SusanDoris]

So what is its message? I will not try and watch unless I know more.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Susan,

All about context ( I think ).

One analogy used, three men working on a building site, one man thinks I hate this job, another thinks I am only doing this because I am hungry and need the money and the last one thinks I am very lucky to be helping to build such a magnificent structure.

But I am sure Sriram will explain it better.

Gonnagle.

[Sriram]

Dear Susan,

All about context ( I think ).

One analogy used, three men working on a building site, one man thinks I hate this job, another thinks I am only doing this because I am hungry and need the money and the last one thinks I am very lucky to be helping to build such a magnificent structure.

But I am sure Sriram will explain it better.

Gonnagle.

Hi Gonnagle,

There is nothing to explain really. Its pretty straight forward. It just requires some self analysis.

Cheers.

Sriram

[Rhiannon]

Sounds like a recommendation for CBT to me.

[Enki]

Just some musings:

I think that a certain amount of stress is useful and beneficial, especially when we are able to choose the situations that give rise to the elements of stress that are a part of our nature. It seems to me that the problems arise when there is conflict within us associated with the circumstances that we find we are in and our own nature, and especially when we cannot easily control events. This is often exacerbated by the feelings(real or not) that the demands made upon us by outside events are too excessive.

Sometimes, as the video suggests, if we can change our attitude to go some way in resolving that conflict, then the stress diminishes.

Sometimes, by taking away the circumstances, the stress diminishes.

And sometimes, by being in more control of events, the stress diminishes.

[Rhiannon]

There are some things that are going to be stressful and upsetting - right now I'm getting divorced, selling my home, trying to find a new home for my kids, and dealing with a back problem. Luckily I have learned some tools for managing the stress that comes with these things.

[Owlswing]

Sounds like a recommendation for CBT to me.

CBT? Please expand as the only thing that I recognise this as the abbreviation for is certainly something that I would not associate with the Lady Rhi!

[Owlswing]

There are some things that are going to be stressful and upsetting - right now I'm getting divorced, selling my home, trying to find a new home for my kids, and dealing with a back problem. Luckily I have learned some tools for managing the stress that comes with these things.

Mead in large quantities helps - the problems and stress do not go away - you just no longer give a toss!

[Nearly Sane]

Sounds like a recommendation for CBT to me.

CBT? Please expand as the only thing that I recognise this as the abbreviation for is certainly something that I would not associate with the Lady Rhi!

Cognitive Behavioural Therapy.


And if I and CMG are thinking about the same alternative acronym then anyone else can go google (except for Bash, because he thinks that is evil)

[Harrowby Hall]

Several decades ago, I was a member of a university research team investigating stress. I later moved away from that area to consumer behaviour.

One of the major problems with "stress" is that the word tends to mean what whatever its user likes. And, depending upon one's academic discipline, there are further shadings in meaning. I once went to a talk on "stress" given by a medical practitioner for whom the most important factor was dietary salt. He saw stress as being manifest in elevated blood pressure levels.

One lay interpretation of stress is that it is an external stimulus  which causes a sense of distress. An alternative is that stress is the response to external events.

A third interpretation, proposed by Hans Selye, is that stress is the non-specific physiological response of the body to any demand made upon it. This interpretation, known as the general adaptation syndrome, suggests that low levels of stress are beneficial but beyond a certain level may become damaging.

Yet another interpretation of stress is that it is the result of an imbalance in the appraisal between the perceived demand of a situation and the individual's perception of his own capability to perform the task. It seems to me that a very simplified version of this is what is being described by the ghuru.

CBT is an appropriate method to deal with such stressful events because it requires the client to consider his own perceptions and responses and to appraise the consequences of actions and feedback the results of the appraisal in an attempt to modify the original appraisal. It can be a very therapeutic  method.

[Owlswing]

Sounds like a recommendation for CBT to me.

CBT? Please expand as the only thing that I recognise this as the abbreviation for is certainly something that I would not associate with the Lady Rhi!

Cognitive Behavioural Therapy.


And if I and CMG are thinking about the same alternative acronym then anyone else can go google (except for Bash, because he thinks that is evil)

Thank you, Sir
.

[OH MY WORLD!]

See Matty,
Good people are happy to tell others what the acronym stands for. No games like, figure it out for yourself.

[Owlswing]

See Matty,
Good people are happy to tell others what the acronym stands for. No games like, figure it out for yourself.

I knew what the acronym stood for but not in the context of this thread! Which, if you read the context instead of making yet another pathetic comment, you would have realised.

[Sriram]

Several decades ago, I was a member of a university research team investigating stress. I later moved away from that area to consumer behaviour.

One of the major problems with "stress" is that the word tends to mean what whatever its user likes. And, depending upon one's academic discipline, there are further shadings in meaning. I once went to a talk on "stress" given by a medical practitioner for whom the most important factor was dietary salt. He saw stress as being manifest in elevated blood pressure levels.

One lay interpretation of stress is that it is an external stimulus  which causes a sense of distress. An alternative is that stress is the response to external events.

A third interpretation, proposed by Hans Selye, is that stress is the non-specific physiological response of the body to any demand made upon it. This interpretation, known as the general adaptation syndrome, suggests that low levels of stress are beneficial but beyond a certain level may become damaging.

Yet another interpretation of stress is that it is the result of an imbalance in the appraisal between the perceived demand of a situation and the individual's perception of his own capability to perform the task. It seems to me that a very simplified version of this is what is being described by the ghuru.

CBT is an appropriate method to deal with such stressful events because it requires the client to consider his own perceptions and responses and to appraise the consequences of actions and feedback the results of the appraisal in an attempt to modify the original appraisal. It can be a very therapeutic  method.

In the video he is not distinguishing between different events.  He is talking about a basic attitude that makes all events seem different and not stressful.

The same event may be stressful for one person and not to someone else. In moments of happiness as when we are in love..everything seems good. People travel with a knapsack and put up with lot of discomfort and still feel happy. Some religious people give up everything and are still happy.

Stress is due to our reaction to events and not the events themselves. If we react differently it will not be stressful.  That is the point he is making.

[Nearly Sane]

If there is no link from the events to the reaction, then there are no events to trigger the reaction. There is just the action/reaction which is not caused,influenced,, effected by any event rather it exists as a purely new action.

[Rhiannon]

Several decades ago, I was a member of a university research team investigating stress. I later moved away from that area to consumer behaviour.

One of the major problems with "stress" is that the word tends to mean what whatever its user likes. And, depending upon one's academic discipline, there are further shadings in meaning. I once went to a talk on "stress" given by a medical practitioner for whom the most important factor was dietary salt. He saw stress as being manifest in elevated blood pressure levels.

One lay interpretation of stress is that it is an external stimulus  which causes a sense of distress. An alternative is that stress is the response to external events.

A third interpretation, proposed by Hans Selye, is that stress is the non-specific physiological response of the body to any demand made upon it. This interpretation, known as the general adaptation syndrome, suggests that low levels of stress are beneficial but beyond a certain level may become damaging.

Yet another interpretation of stress is that it is the result of an imbalance in the appraisal between the perceived demand of a situation and the individual's perception of his own capability to perform the task. It seems to me that a very simplified version of this is what is being described by the ghuru.

CBT is an appropriate method to deal with such stressful events because it requires the client to consider his own perceptions and responses and to appraise the consequences of actions and feedback the results of the appraisal in an attempt to modify the original appraisal. It can be a very therapeutic  method.

In the video he is not distinguishing between different events.  He is talking about a basic attitude that makes all events seem different and not stressful.

The same event may be stressful for one person and not to someone else. In moments of happiness as when we are in love..everything seems good. People travel with a knapsack and put up with lot of discomfort and still feel happy. Some religious people give up everything and are still happy.

Stress is due to our reaction to events and not the events themselves. If we react differently it will not be stressful.  That is the point he is making.

That's not a million miles from CBT, Sriram. To put it very simply, CBT is about challenging thinking errors through both questioning your thinking and trying things out to see which thoughts are more accurate.

Interestingly I've just discovered that it is also very similar to stoic philosophy. There's nothing new under the sun.

[OH MY WORLD!]

Dear Matty,
But you had to have it explained to you. If YOU understood the context and the acronym you would not have admitted that you only recognize it in a perverted sense.  Thanks for sharing where your mind is.

[Owlswing]

Dear Matty,
But you had to have it explained to you. If YOU understood the context and the acronym you would not have admitted that you only recognize it in a perverted sense.  Thanks for sharing where your mind is.

PDNFCFR

[Hope]

CBT? Please expand as the only thing that I recognise this as the abbreviation for is certainly something that I would not associate with the Lady Rhi!

Compulsory Basic Training?   

[Owlswing]

CBT? Please expand as the only thing that I recognise this as the abbreviation for is certainly something that I would not associate with the Lady Rhi!

Compulsory Basic Training?   

Possibly!

[Sriram]

If there is no link from the events to the reaction, then there are no events to trigger the reaction. There is just the action/reaction which is not caused,influenced,, effected by any event rather it exists as a purely new action.

We have very little control over events. Most of them happen in spite of us. This is the first element. The second element is our mindset during these events. If our mindset is unsuitable, we get stressed due to the events. If our mindset is suitable we will not get stressed.

The proof of this is that different people react differently to the same event and even we ourselves react differently at different times depending on our moods and priorities at that time.

As an extreme example...there are many people who are even uncomfortable with their own bodies. Many 'good looking' and relatively healthy people are unhappy with their own bodies.  But many relatively 'bad looking' and unhealthy people are able to remain very happy with themselves. Its a matter of perception...not one of objective reality.

Many religious people are able to remain happy by abandoning the sense of control.

Happiness depends on perceptions and expectations. If we have realistic expectations and adopt a suitable mindset ...we can reduce our stress. That is the point of the video.

[Harrowby Hall]

Sriram, how - in essence - does this differ from what I have already written but which you have dismissed?

Yet another interpretation of stress is that it is the result of an imbalance in the appraisal between the perceived demand of a situation and the individual's perception of his own capability to perform the task. It seems to me that a very simplified version of this is what is being described by the guru.

[jakswan]

Hey Sriram, watch out! TIGER!

Five minutes later despite the agony of having being eaten alive Sriram assures me he has endured no stress at all and has sustained a 'happy mindset'.