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Biofield
« on: October 19, 2015, 08:38:38 AM »
Hi everyone,

I have discussed this before....I think its time to reiterate it.

We all have an energy field in and around us that is commonly referred to as the Aura. It is now called the biofield.  This is like the magnetic field around the earth and may other bodies. Nothing 'supernatural' about it. Its as natural as our body.

Yoga and tantra philosophies deal with such matters.

This biofield forms a part of our mind and our feelings and it influences the body, brain, other organs and glands to secrete chemicals that make the body respond suitably.

Its the biofield that is divided into many vortices that are called chakras (wheels) in Hinduism. These are places around the body  where these energies flow in vortices or wheel like. There are many layers to this biofield which are broadly identified with the seven colours of the visible spectrum. 

Each chakra beginning from the bottom is identified with a specific colour...red for the one at the bottom of the spine, orange for the sex area, yellow for the navel, green for the solar plexus, blue for the heart, indigo for the throat, violet for the forehead and white for the crown.   

Our feelings and reactions are largely influenced by these energy flows and the balance in these chakras. These chakras could get filled in or depleted or congested etc depending on the energy flow and our interactions and reactions.

If the heart chakra for example, gets filled with positive energy, we feel happy and fulfilled, if it is depleted, we feel unhappy and sad.  If the solar plexus gets filled with energy we could feel envious or jealous...and so on. 

Our health is also largely determined by the biofield and the flow of energy in the chakras. Faith healing, reiki, pranic healing and so on use these systems for healing.  The healing experience that Floo had in her agricultural field is also probably related to the same biofield and energy flows.

In other words...when we feel something in our heart...it relates to the heart chakra and when we feel something in the pit of our stomach, it relates to the relevant chakra and its energy flows at that time. 

What is the proof?  Its all experiential and we can observe the flow of energies in ourselves. Who ever wants objective evidence that can be observed by the five senses, should find some way of experimenting and finding objective evidence for it. There is no other way.

Just some thoughts.

Cheers.

Sriram 
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Re: Biofield
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2015, 09:33:56 AM »
Sriram you are stating as a fact, something you might believe to be true, but for which you have no evidence!

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Re: Biofield
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2015, 09:48:41 AM »
Whatever it is, if there is something in this concept, it is not "energy". If it was "energy" then we could easily measure it and convert it between different forms and so on.

I've no problem with people proposing various hypotheses or models to explain aspects of mind or biology, but misusing scientific terms in everyday use will not help in establishing such theories.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2015, 10:56:04 AM »
There is no real evidence to support synthesia being the explanation for auras. There seemed to be a lot of misreporting of some studies into this but in reality the hypothesis wasn't supported by the studies.

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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2015, 11:01:47 AM »
I have a friend who says she sees auras. She doesn't claim anything 'special' for it - she doesn't claim to be psychic, or try to make money, or even just tell people what she sees. I've no reason to think she's lying, whether what she sees is an 'aura' or not.

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Re: Biofield
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2015, 01:57:24 PM »
Sriram you are stating as a fact, something you might believe to be true, but for which you have no evidence!

Evidence?!  YOU are the evidence!  You had a cure that you or anyone else is unable to explain. And yet you have a problem accepting that it is not a normal cure.

Millions of others like you have had such experiences.  There are many people who actually work professionally (not in a religious environment) to heal people using the biofield /chakras etc....and it works very well! 

The biofield is something anyone who is sensitive enough will be able to feel around them. Its as simple as that.

In any case no one is going to 'prove' anything to anyone and hand it on a platter. 
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Re: Biofield
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2015, 02:02:24 PM »
While reading up about auras I came across something interesting

https://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/syne.html

It's called synesthesia


The biofield has nothing to do with synesthesia. Synesthesia is about perceptional issues and the associations that some people seem to make with numbers and colours etc. 

I am talking about a biofield which surrounds all living beings....and which is part of the mind and which influences the body also. Its not just about seeing colours.

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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2015, 03:35:38 PM »
Sriram you are stating as a fact, something you might believe to be true, but for which you have no evidence!

Evidence?!  YOU are the evidence!  You had a cure that you or anyone else is unable to explain. And yet you have a problem accepting that it is not a normal cure.

Millions of others like you have had such experiences.  There are many people who actually work professionally (not in a religious environment) to heal people using the biofield /chakras etc....and it works very well! 

The biofield is something anyone who is sensitive enough will be able to feel around them. Its as simple as that.

In any case no one is going to 'prove' anything to anyone and hand it on a platter.

I am not evidence, I explained my so called 'cure'!

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Re: Biofield
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2015, 03:45:20 PM »
I seem to remember there was a lot of discussion about Kirlian photography and auras a number of years ago.

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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2015, 04:05:41 PM »
I regularly see auras...mind you, mine are migraine related.
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Re: Biofield
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2015, 04:42:46 PM »
Sriram you are stating as a fact, something you might believe to be true, but for which you have no evidence!

Evidence?!  YOU are the evidence!  You had a cure that you or anyone else is unable to explain. And yet you have a problem accepting that it is not a normal cure.

Millions of others like you have had such experiences.  There are many people who actually work professionally (not in a religious environment) to heal people using the biofield /chakras etc....and it works very well! 

The biofield is something anyone who is sensitive enough will be able to feel around them. Its as simple as that.

In any case no one is going to 'prove' anything to anyone and hand it on a platter.

I am not evidence, I explained my so called 'cure'!

You did not explain anything. You merely said that there is probably a natural explanation. I didn't say it was unnatural or supernatural either.

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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2015, 04:55:48 PM »
Sriram you are stating as a fact, something you might believe to be true, but for which you have no evidence!

Evidence?!  YOU are the evidence!  You had a cure that you or anyone else is unable to explain. And yet you have a problem accepting that it is not a normal cure.

Millions of others like you have had such experiences.  There are many people who actually work professionally (not in a religious environment) to heal people using the biofield /chakras etc....and it works very well! 

The biofield is something anyone who is sensitive enough will be able to feel around them. Its as simple as that.

In any case no one is going to 'prove' anything to anyone and hand it on a platter.

I am not evidence, I explained my so called 'cure'!

You did not explain anything. You merely said that there is probably a natural explanation. I didn't say it was unnatural or supernatural either.

Well I think the pleasant vibes emanating from our field had a placebo effect.

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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2015, 05:16:56 PM »
Sriram, I can see you have enabled much cognitive dissonance with this thread. It's not really surprising though, is it, knowing the members of the forum.
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Re: Biofield
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2015, 05:57:38 PM »


You did not explain anything. You merely said that there is probably a natural explanation. I didn't say it was unnatural or supernatural either.

Well I think the pleasant vibes emanating from our field had a placebo effect.


What 'pleasant vibes'? Don't you get pleasant vibes anywhere else? LOL!

And what do you mean by a 'placebo' effect? Does anyone actually understand what the placebo effect is? I hope you realize that its not just a psychological conditioning or deception.

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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2015, 05:58:56 PM »
Sriram, I can see you have enabled much cognitive dissonance with this thread. It's not really surprising though, is it, knowing the members of the forum.

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Re: Biofield
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2015, 10:46:37 PM »
Hi everyone,

I have discussed this before....I think its time to reiterate it.

We all have an energy field in and around us that is commonly referred to as the Aura. It is now called the biofield.  This is like the magnetic field around the earth and may other bodies. Nothing 'supernatural' about it. Its as natural as our body.


How come we can't detect it with a compass then?

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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2015, 10:58:22 PM »
This is totally off topic but every time I see this thread title James Bond pops into my mind.

Carry on..............
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2015, 11:13:05 PM »
This is totally off topic but every time I see this thread title James Bond pops into my mind.

Carry on..............
Ha! That's exactly what I thought, especially with the new film coming out soon.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2015, 06:58:16 AM »

Millions of others like you have had such experiences.  There are many people who actually work professionally (not in a religious environment) to heal people using the biofield /chakras etc....and it works very well! 
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2015, 02:03:44 AM »
I wouldn't mind, but the human condition has been fairly wretched for most of human existence, and woo has been the main obstacle to progress.

If this biofield thing is a falsifiable hypothesis, let's just predict some consequences and test them.

If it isn't, then it's worthless at best.



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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2015, 05:04:26 AM »
I wouldn't mind, but the human condition has been fairly wretched for most of human existence, and woo has been the main obstacle to progress.

If this biofield thing is a falsifiable hypothesis, let's just predict some consequences and test them.

If it isn't, then it's worthless at best.

Yes....that's right. I agree about the testing the hypothesis.

I am not sure about 'falsifiability'....(and how relevant that is to prove any hypothesis)...but certainly some process has to be designed such that these phenomena can be understood better.  It should not be the crude insistence on 'seeing' or measuring through some instrument. That is soo... 'physics'!! 

Here are people who themselves have had personal experiences that indicate the presence of such phenomena...but they are very quick to dismiss it. No one wants to go out of their comfort zone and find out what exactly is happening. They find it so much easier to get back to their basic mindset....instead of finding something new and learning something more about this world.

And everyone believes they are very objective and scientific and clever nevertheless.   ::) 

It'll take another generation perhaps....but it will happen!


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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2015, 07:33:49 AM »
Such faith in woo by the pseudo science poeple.
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2015, 08:32:31 AM »
wouldn't rule out everything.

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Re: Biofield
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2015, 10:18:59 AM »
I seem to remember there was a lot of discussion about Kirlian photography and auras a number of years ago.

Yes, for any 'evidence' seekers, look at Kirlian photography.
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2015, 10:21:13 AM »
I've not been convinced by it tbh. But when I have felt the biofields of things it's been by touch anyway.