Biofield

[ekim]

As regards sensitivity to, so called,  'auras' or energy fields, I don't see any reason why there shouldn't be people who have such sensitivity.  It may be that those who don't, have simply become desensitised or refuse to be open to the possibility.

[Udayana]

Yes, but what use can it be if you can't tell who can sense "auras" and those who can't but just pretend to?

[Maeght]

I seem to remember there was a lot of discussion about Kirlian photography and auras a number of years ago.

Yes, for any 'evidence' seekers, look at Kirlian photography.

This is certainly claimed as evidence - but if you do enough reading around the subject this tends to fall apart. To support auras and biofield there would need to be a lot stronger evidence than that SweetPea.

[King Oberon]

Surely old Sriram has read this?

http://www.lightstalking.com/what-is-kirlian-photography-the-science-and-the-myth-revealed/

 

[BashfulAnthony]

wouldn't rule out everything.

Good, fancy buying a bridge I have for sale?

A bridge?

What would I do with a bridge?

LOL

I wouldn't buy one - it would be a bridge too far!   

[Maeght]

Surely old Sriram has read this?

http://www.lightstalking.com/what-is-kirlian-photography-the-science-and-the-myth-revealed/

 

It was SweatPea who mentioned Kirlan photography. Would certainly be a good idea to take a look.

[floo]

I have a photo of my husband taken in the early part of this century, he is gardening and bending over a flower bed, there is a blue 'aura' all down his back. I thought it weird until he pointed out he was wearing a white T shirt, and it was a trick of the light. Some idiot unhelpfully suggested a few years later after his devastating brain haemorrhage, that the 'aura' was a sign of things to come!

[ekim]

Yes, but what use can it be if you can't tell who can sense "auras" and those who can't but just pretend to?

The only thing I can say to that is if I were open to the possibility, I might find it sufficiently interesting enough to explore it by attempting to develop a sensitivity to it myself.  Provided I don't pretend to myself, the experience will indicate to me whether it is an actuality of just remains on the possibility list.

[jeremyp]

I seem to remember there was a lot of discussion about Kirlian photography and auras a number of years ago.

Yes, for any 'evidence' seekers, look at Kirlian photography.

That can't be it. The thread title is "Biofield". You can make Kirlian photographs of non biological objects, like coins.

In fact Killian photographs are evidence of nothing more than good old scientific electric fields.

[Nearly Sane]

Kirlian.

[Sriram]

Hi everyone,

Its odd that something that is so personal and so much a part of our mind and personality as the biofield, needs external and objective 'proof' in the form of photographs to be even known & acknowledged as existing!

But that's the problem even with our own bodies. We would never know that we have a brain, liver, kidneys, lungs, pancreas and so on if they didn't teach us that in biology class. We can live our entire lives knowing nothing about our internal organs though we use them every day!

If anyone takes the trouble to learn some advanced Yoga (beyond the postures) or Pranic healing they will be taught to actually feel the biofield and the chakras.  Meanwhile, every time you look at a little baby and feel your heart expanding...know that it is your heart chakra expanding. Or if you hear a thud downstairs at night and feel fear grip your heart know that it is your heart chakra contracting.  Or you feel envious and feel a burning in your solar plexus know that its your solar plexus chakra reacting. And many more such feelings that are nothing but our chakras expanding and contracting.

Also such experiences as healing due to prayer, faith, Reiki, Floo type of healing....are all due to the biofield getting regulated.

Most psychosomatic problems are also due to the problems in the biofield and the chakras. Most mental problems such as depression, schizophrenia  etc. are related to biofield and chakra problems.

Cheers.

Sriram 

[Maeght]

Of course that's what you believe Sriram but you state it all as facts which they are not.

[Harrowby Hall]

I seem to remember there was a lot of discussion about Kirlian photography and auras a number of years ago.

Yes, for any 'evidence' seekers, look at Kirlian photography.

Sweet Pea

Why is it that you will uncritically accept concepts like Kirlian photography yet scorn the idea that you can see the Andromeda galaxy with the naked eye?

[SweetPea]

I seem to remember there was a lot of discussion about Kirlian photography and auras a number of years ago.

Yes, for any 'evidence' seekers, look at Kirlian photography.

Sweet Pea

Why is it that you will uncritically accept concepts like Kirlian photography yet scorn the idea that you can see the Andromeda galaxy with the naked eye?

I don't scorn the idea that you can see the Andromeda galaxy with the naked eye. I just find it an amazing phenomena.

I'm not rushing to criticise Kirlian photography because I have seen the aura (biofield) around my own hands and know people that can see auras; and isn't photography well-known to be able to catch things that are not always visible to the naked eye.

Here, have a look at Kirlian's link:

http://tinyurl.com/qf6lhpr

What does a Kirlian Photography capture?

Kirlian photography equipment captures a subtle field of electromagnetic energy that radiates from all living things, otherwise known as an aura. In Western religious traditions, you can often see it portrayed in art as a halo surrounding saints or Deity. In Eastern religious traditions, it is thought to emanate from the chakras—or centers of energy within the body—and is often depicted as a multi-colored body of light surrounding a person.

For centuries, specialists who have been able to “see” auras without the help of an aura photo have explained that the colors exhibited in the aura have specific meanings. As a result, Kirlian Photography has been used to reveal important information about a person’s emotional energetic state—such as identifying the signs of rising energy-stress, allowing you to address the issue before physical symptoms arise.


The link goes on to say how Kirlian photography works.

[jeremyp]

Hi everyone,

Its odd that something that is so personal and so much a part of our mind and personality as the biofield, needs external and objective 'proof' in the form of photographs to be even known & acknowledged as existing!

Why is it odd that people require you to provide evidence of your claims? It seems odd to me that you expect people to believe any old rubbish and then you protest when we challenge you. What do you expect us to do?

[Harrowby Hall]

I seem to remember there was a lot of discussion about Kirlian photography and auras a number of years ago.

Yes, for any 'evidence' seekers, look at Kirlian photography.

Sweet Pea

Why is it that you will uncritically accept concepts like Kirlian photography yet scorn the idea that you can see the Andromeda galaxy with the naked eye?

I don't scorn the idea that you can see the Andromeda galaxy with the naked eye. I just find it an amazing phenomena.

I'm not rushing to criticise Kirlian photography because I have seen the aura (biofield) around my own hands and know people that can see auras; and isn't photography well-known to be able to catch things that are not always visible to the naked eye.

Here, have a look at Kirlian's link:

http://tinyurl.com/qf6lhpr

What does a Kirlian Photography capture?

Kirlian photography equipment captures a subtle field of electromagnetic energy that radiates from all living things, otherwise known as an aura. In Western religious traditions, you can often see it portrayed in art as a halo surrounding saints or Deity. In Eastern religious traditions, it is thought to emanate from the chakras—or centers of energy within the body—and is often depicted as a multi-colored body of light surrounding a person.

For centuries, specialists who have been able to “see” auras without the help of an aura photo have explained that the colors exhibited in the aura have specific meanings. As a result, Kirlian Photography has been used to reveal important information about a person’s emotional energetic state—such as identifying the signs of rising energy-stress, allowing you to address the issue before physical symptoms arise.


The link goes on to say how Kirlian photography works.

The link neither explains what Kirlian photography is nor how it works. It is simply an elaborate advertisement devised on the P T Barnum principle of there being a sucker born every minute.

[Rhiannon]

I had an aura photo done once. What it photographed I have no idea, but the interpretation of the colours was a load of shite.

[Sriram]

Of course that's what you believe Sriram but you state it all as facts which they are not.

You don't get it.  The biofield is not a belief. You don't ask for proof of your kidneys do you even though you have never seen them?!

 

[Red Giant]

It should not be the crude insistence on 'seeing' or measuring through some instrument. That is soo... 'physics'!! 

Science isn't about lab coats and meters.  It's about asking the right questions.

Suppose it were possible to cross the optic nerves of two people, so each would see through the other's eyes.  If one of those people sees auras, who will see them after the crossing?

(Analogy - if you could cross the aural nerves of two people, who would have the tinnitus?)

[Maeght]

Of course that's what you believe Sriram but you state it all as facts which they are not.

You don't get it.  The biofield is not a belief. You don't ask for proof of your kidneys do you even though you have never seen them?!

I've seen my kidney's via a CT scan and we know humans have kidneys from dissectio, operations etc so unless I am unlike other humans I think it is safe to assume I do actually have kidneys. All the stuff about chakras and imbalances in the biofield are beliefs - not like our kidneys at all.

[Red Giant]

Some more questions.

1.  If two aura-seers are in the same room, but not allowed to communicate, and they both report what auras they see, will their reports be similar, or totally different?

2.  Some people hear voices.  Does anybody claim the voices are real sounds, inaudible to most people, but some people's ears can pick them up?

[Rhiannon]

2. Is known as being clairaudient.

[SweetPea]

I seem to remember there was a lot of discussion about Kirlian photography and auras a number of years ago.

Yes, for any 'evidence' seekers, look at Kirlian photography.

Sweet Pea

Why is it that you will uncritically accept concepts like Kirlian photography yet scorn the idea that you can see the Andromeda galaxy with the naked eye?

I don't scorn the idea that you can see the Andromeda galaxy with the naked eye. I just find it an amazing phenomena.

I'm not rushing to criticise Kirlian photography because I have seen the aura (biofield) around my own hands and know people that can see auras; and isn't photography well-known to be able to catch things that are not always visible to the naked eye.

Here, have a look at Kirlian's link:

http://tinyurl.com/qf6lhpr

What does a Kirlian Photography capture?

Kirlian photography equipment captures a subtle field of electromagnetic energy that radiates from all living things, otherwise known as an aura. In Western religious traditions, you can often see it portrayed in art as a halo surrounding saints or Deity. In Eastern religious traditions, it is thought to emanate from the chakras—or centers of energy within the body—and is often depicted as a multi-colored body of light surrounding a person.

For centuries, specialists who have been able to “see” auras without the help of an aura photo have explained that the colors exhibited in the aura have specific meanings. As a result, Kirlian Photography has been used to reveal important information about a person’s emotional energetic state—such as identifying the signs of rising energy-stress, allowing you to address the issue before physical symptoms arise.


The link goes on to say how Kirlian photography works.

The link neither explains what Kirlian photography is nor how it works. It is simply an elaborate advertisement devised on the P T Barnum principle of there being a sucker born every minute.

Ok, tell me why ancient artists should draw what is known as a 'halo' around saints or deity.

[Harrowby Hall]

What has that to do with Kirlian photography?

[Sriram]

Hi everyone,

As I have already mentioned...the biofield is not something supernatural.  It is just a natural part of our body/mind system that science has not been able to detect yet. Science doesn't know so many things about our mind/body even now...so no big deal that science does not know about the biofield yet.  It probably will catch up in due course.

That of course does not stop us from having subjective experiences of it and need not stop us from trying to understand it from some people who know something about it. The mindset that it is something dark and dangerous is rubbish. Just some peoples insecurity that makes them think so.

That some mainstream scientists look down their noses at such matters is neither here nor there! They have lot on their hands...what with ...bodies interacting instantaneously across billions of miles...mind influencing quantum states...parallel universes...anthropic principle...NDE's and so on. 

Cheers.

Sriram