Deeds not words

[floo]

Floo can't respond as she has nothing to offer past her question.
Her responses are just put-downs. Usually making herself look even more uneducated about the things she claims to know.

And your posts aren't put downs? Oh for pity's sake don't make yourself look even more silly than you are.

[Brownie]

It's fair enough, floo, that you wish to respond as you choose.  I can't help feeling that I wasted time and thought answering your question, not just on here but on the ''prayiing to saints' thread.  I thought you genuinely wanted some answers.

Many of us said quite a bit about 'deeds not words', a sentiment with which I concur - so broadly speaking I agree with you on this one.  The majority said we don't talk about what we do which is quite right, our right hand doesn't need to know what our left is doing.

[Hope]

Just to return to the thread title; how does one perform deeds on an internet forum like this when its very lifeblood is words?

[ippy]

Just to return to the thread title; how does one perform deeds on an internet forum like this when its very lifeblood is words?

By turning people on to the path of righteousness and away from the mythical, magical, superstitious religions.

ippy 

[Brownie]

Just to return to the thread title; how does one perform deeds on an internet forum like this when its very lifeblood is words?

That's a good point Hope.

We can't do anything physically but we can try to be patient and kind or at least courteous.  Also not chime in for the sake of it, sometimes keeping quiet is the best option (sez moi!).  It's not cowardly to walk away from an argument.

Something I've noticed on forums over the years, not here really but other places, is that posters will sometimes unburden themselves about a problem.  It may concern them or a member of their family; their anguish is palpable.  What they need is for people to listen and be sympathetic to how they are feeling but very often unasked for advice is dished out.  So I would say never give advice unless qualified to do so and it is specifically requested.

In the words of Bill and Ted, ''Be excellent to eachother''.

[floo]

Just to return to the thread title; how does one perform deeds on an internet forum like this when its very lifeblood is words?

I don't think one can count forums as the place to perform good deeds. I have tried on occasions over the years, and from time to time it has come back to haunt me. As far as I am concerned forums are the place to express one's opinions and challenge the views of others. Of course one should not be racist, homophobic or threatening.

[Dicky Underpants]

That's a good point Hope.

We can't do anything physically but we can try to be patient and kind or at least courteous.  Also not chime in for the sake of it, sometimes keeping quiet is the best option (sez moi!).  It's not cowardly to walk away from an argument.

Something I've noticed on forums over the years, not here really but other places, is that posters will sometimes unburden themselves about a problem.  It may concern them or a member of their family; their anguish is palpable.  What they need is for people to listen and be sympathetic to how they are feeling but very often unasked for advice is dished out.  So I would say never give advice unless qualified to do so and it is specifically requested.

In the words of Bill and Ted, ''Be excellent to eachother''.

Aaargh! You be the wise woman, that you be (with a apologies to Blackadder). I do not speak in jest.

[SweetPea]

I agree, DU and I think it deserves a place elsewhere on the forum.

Hang on a mo.....

[Nearly Sane]

That's a good point Hope.

We can't do anything physically but we can try to be patient and kind or at least courteous.  Also not chime in for the sake of it, sometimes keeping quiet is the best option (sez moi!).  It's not cowardly to walk away from an argument.

Something I've noticed on forums over the years, not here really but other places, is that posters will sometimes unburden themselves about a problem.  It may concern them or a member of their family; their anguish is palpable.  What they need is for people to listen and be sympathetic to how they are feeling but very often unasked for advice is dished out.  So I would say never give advice unless qualified to do so and it is specifically requested.

In the words of Bill and Ted, ''Be excellent to eachother''.

A year or so ago I posted something of a cri de couer and I got a reply from Gabriella that I described as a long drink of cold water. But as with many things there are both sides on this.

[Brownie]

Well when we post from the heart, especially giving details about ourselves, I suppose we deserve what we get in response.  I've done it in the past and received goodness knows what in return for it!  Well meant of course but not what I needed as I had only wanted to unload.  Since then I decided to be a bit more careful about what I say or how I say it; you live and learn.  However my previous post was aimed more at those of us who might feel inclined to chime in with advice, which was not asked for. It's easy to fall into that (I can think of two specific occasions when I did and to this day I feel very embarrassed to remember), especially if we know something about the issue. However we don't really know the people concerned and haven't witnessed the situation, we aren't in a position to advise - but we can be kind and concerned.

[floo]

Revealing too much about ourselves on forum is a BIG MISTAKE! It has come back to bite me many times over the years. A couple of posters on this forum take great delight in reminding me of what I am supposed to have said in the past, sometimes exaggerating or putting a spin on it which wasn't intended by me.

[Brownie]

We do live and learn floo, it's quite cringeworthy when we remember some of the things we've shared in the past.  Some of what we have said too.

I'm gonna make a general apology for anything tactless or pointless that I've said in response to someone else's anguish.  Also, I will ignore any advice given to me  , very politely, thanking the person, and will divert the conversation.

[Leonard James]

Revealing too much about ourselves on forum is a BIG MISTAKE! It has come back to bite me many times over the years. A couple of posters on this forum take great delight in reminding me of what I am supposed to have said in the past, sometimes exaggerating or putting a spin on it which wasn't intended by me.

Ignore them, Roses, or just spit in their eye!  Nobody's perfect, and time teaches us to make the most of what we have.

[Sassy]

Revealing too much about ourselves on forum is a BIG MISTAKE! It has come back to bite me many times over the years. A couple of posters on this forum take great delight in reminding me of what I am supposed to have said in the past, sometimes exaggerating or putting a spin on it which wasn't intended by me.

You mean like discussing your daughter being a vicar on the BBC forum then complaining when someone brought her into the discussion?

There is no exageration is what they reproduced was there. An atheist praying or something like that...
Double standards come back to bite your butt.
But we have to  because you will even argue as you do above that it is exaggerated or a different spin.
A new definition of truth by your standards, Floo. Now I am smiling...

[Sassy]

Ignore them, Roses, or just spit in their eye!  Nobody's perfect, and time teaches us to make the most of what we have.

Be careful of her thorns you never know when you will get a nasty prick from them.

[Leonard James]

Be careful of her thorns you never know when you will get a nasty prick from them.

Sass, my dear, I have lived a lifetime of nasty pricks (no pun intended), and have long since ceased to take any of them seriously.

They simply show up the people they come from as indoctrinated bigots. 

[floo]

Two 'Christian' posters on this forum spend their time condemning the ungodly and other Christians who don't see it their way. If they are the sort of people god wishes to hangout with in heaven, then it would be no sort of paradise, but one filled with highly unpleasant folk, with god as the Psycho in Chief.

Once again I wish to commend Alan Burns for never appearing to take umbrage when we challenge his faith POV. Whilst I will never see it his way I have respect for him.

[Hope]

Two 'Christian' posters on this forum spend their time condemning the ungodly and other Christians who don't see it their way.

Seem to remember you making a similatr comment some months ago, only for it to become clear that you were referring to people who weren't even members of 'extreme' Christian groups, but were JWs.  Who is it now?

[floo]

Seem to remember you making a similatr comment some months ago, only for it to become clear that you were referring to people who weren't even members of 'extreme' Christian groups, but were JWs.  Who is it now?

JWs are one of the nastiest cults, imo. But actually I am not sure I was referring to JWs back then, there were a couple of other 'Christian posters', now banned, whom I thought  were beyond the pale.

BTW whilst I dislike intensely your views on homosexuality, I believe you do a lot of good for Twam, the charity you support.

[Sassy]

Sass, my dear, I have lived a lifetime of nasty pricks (no pun intended), and have long since ceased to take any of them seriously.

They simply show up the people they come from as indoctrinated bigots. 

Good word 'indoctrinated' is it big enough to keep hiding behind. Before you die you shall return to the LORD, and you will repent because you will see a light and you will know that God never stopped loving you. He never let you go, just gave your body over to the flesh. Nothing like Gods love can be found in man or flesh. Your own heart will see this in time. You will again come to the truth before you time to cast off this mortal coil.

You never once spoke bad words about Christ or God. You have denied the existence of God and yet you still cannot insult them. Have you ever wondered why?
Even live your life on the basis of do no harm. A sheep in wolves clothing...

[floo]

As I have said previously, I strongly disagree with Hope's take on faith, but at least he appears to be putting his faith to a practical use where his TWAM charity is concerned.

Sass and TW berate non believers and condemn us to hell, but what to what practical use do they put their faith to make the lives of others better?

[Sassy]

As I have said previously, I strongly disagree with Hope's take on faith, but at least he appears to be putting his faith to a practical use where his TWAM charity is concerned.

Sass and TW berate non believers and condemn us to hell, but what to what practical use do they put their faith to make the lives of others better?

I have never berated a person simply because they are a none believer. I have told the truth things about yourself.
Example: You making remarks in IGNORANCE OF THE FACTS because you never read the bible but feel yourself educated enough about the bibles cover to comment on the inside. This post of yours show yourself to be guilty of berating believers so you are falsely accusing others of doing what you yourself do.

I have spent the last half of this year getting on to mp's electric boards and water people to get the facilities back for a woman in a wheel chair left with none. We prayed to God and was answered. But where were your prayers or concern for this woman... Not a Christian so cannot be bothered to be concerned or offer any thoughts. Had you bothered to read the topic you would know what we Christians get up to.

http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=11643.0

Looking after my own disabled daughter and running after my sister also now ill and needing a wheelchair.
I have helped others run them for hospital appointments. Took someone to local shops and other places like the hospital and yesterday, having done my own housework and a meal for my family, I spent the afternoon at jb's washing her fridge freezer out and pulling it out to hoover and scrub behind. Hoovered the chalet throughout and I also took her a cooked meal up as I have done the last few days.. Including Yoghurts and fruit as she has absolutely no money.

What have you done ye atheist? Besides sit at home and berate Christians who get of their backside and help people for just two reasons.  Love of God and him leading us to help them and a real heartfelt care for others.
You see like our God we are given a heart to really care. We personally do not normally tell others about all the things we do,
For us, it is doing what is really what we should all be doing as normal course.
People do not deserve praise for doing what is the right thing. But God does  because since February when I contacted the people including mp and chased them, he made sure she got her electric supply. Just waiting for water now. Perhaps you might want to add a comment of support and prayer on the thread. 

[floo]

Sass your posts certainly don't do your faith any favours at all, they are most off putting, but maybe that is your intention.

[Aruntraveller]

As I have said previously, I strongly disagree with Hope's take on faith, but at least he appears to be putting his faith to a practical use where his TWAM charity is concerned.

Sass and TW berate non believers and condemn us to hell, but what to what practical use do they put their faith to make the lives of others better?

Maybe they don't want to talk about it on here?

Some people like to do good without shouting it out to the world. (That btw is not some kind of attack on those like Hope that do let us know - it's just the way different people work)

[floo]

Maybe they don't want to talk about it on here?

Some people like to do good without shouting it out to the world. (That btw is not some kind of attack on those like Hope that do let us know - it's just the way different people work)

Maybe, but one does have to wonder why some present their faith in a manner which brings it into disrepute?