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torridon

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Re: Red meat alert
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2015, 07:28:29 AM »
I suppose most life on this planet is cannabilistic in a sense.  I might draw the line at eating grandma, or my enemies, but now we know that cabbage on the plate is actually a distant cousin. It's only the photosynthesisers that can have a truly clean conscience, they eat noone but they get munched by the herbivores. Dull but nice.

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Re: Red meat alert
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2015, 07:47:09 AM »

Hi everyone,

We have to slowly give up meat and become vegetarians.

Cheers.

Sriram

NO. NO. NO.

No we do NOT "have to"!

Where do you get the idea that you can force anyone to comply with your values? Suddenly the Veggie Mafia decides what I can and cannot eat?

No way!
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Re: Red meat alert
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2015, 08:44:46 AM »

Hi everyone,

I believe all this is a part of our evolution into a 'higher' consciousness. Yeah...yeah..I know you people don't believe in anything 'higher' and 'lower' and so on.  But I do! 

There is now a new normal. People couldn't live without meat decades/centuries ago. Now it is different. We have to slowly give up meat and become vegetarians. This will happen more and more over the next few decades and centuries.

All part of the growing humanism, compassion, non-violence, universal thinking.. that is expected of us. You don't do it willingly...it'll be forced on you.  You can see the trend so clearly....its amazing!


And yet earlier you said 'I post about Britain and America because that's what is relevant to you people on here. I have no opinions on most of those issues because they do not concern me '

This is why I asked for your views on another thread because you do have views on the things you post otherwise you wouldn't select those items to post about. Why not say what your views are upfront and as to why you posted that story?

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Re: Red meat alert
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2015, 06:11:04 AM »
Hi everyone,

Judaism, Christianity and Islam traditionally treat animals as though they are 'created for human consumption'.   Though some fables do use animals to outline human conditions and moral messages....generally animals did not form a part of 'Gods' plan'.

After the theory of evolution humans realized that animals are our cousins and possibly share our feelings of sorrow and happiness.

Walt Disney took this to a different level and brought animals to almost human levels.  Then came the animal rights movement and the veggie and vegan movements. Now its being taken to the next level where meat consumption could be reduced significantly over the next several decades.  Good going IMO!

We then need to realize that animals also have 'souls' and are a part of the spiritual evolution of life. 

All part of the human learning and development process I suppose!

 
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Leonard James

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Re: Red meat alert
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2015, 06:41:54 AM »

We then need to realize that animals also have 'souls' and are a part of the spiritual evolution of life.   
 

Whilst vegetables, of course, don't, even though they are an integral and indispensable part of the same process!  ::)

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All part of the human learning and development process I suppose! 

More correctly, "all part of the human delusionary process".

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Re: Red meat alert
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2015, 06:59:33 AM »
Judaism, Christianity and Islam traditionally treat animals as though they are 'created for human consumption'.   
Since long before any of those existed, food production was about 99% of the economy.  There were 2 cultures, the growers and the pastoralists.  For the pastoralists, the keeping and slaughtering and cooking and eating of animals was obviously a dominant preoccupation and of course they developed a self-serving point of view.

As it happens, it seems to have been a school of hereditary slaughtermen who evolved into the Jewish priesthood.

In other parts of the world, the religion of the growers became dominant.  These things just happen.  The winners aren't necessarily right.

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Re: Red meat alert
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2015, 11:09:13 AM »
Research links cancer to fruit and vegetables
 :'(

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/feb/17/medicalscience.research
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torridon

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Re: Red meat alert
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2015, 11:17:58 AM »
The only safe thing to do is stop eating food.

And breathing air.

Oh, hang on a minute ...

Leonard James

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Re: Red meat alert
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2015, 11:23:56 AM »
The only safe thing to do is stop eating food.

And breathing air.

Oh, hang on a minute ...

Lucky is the man who has access to unadulterated food and uncontaminated air, but I fear those are very few. :(

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Re: Red meat alert
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2015, 12:51:08 PM »
Research links cancer to fruit and vegetables
 :'(

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/feb/17/medicalscience.research

Whatever the danger from nitrates in fruit and veg, it will be worse in meat as it accumulates.
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Re: Red meat alert
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2015, 02:41:02 PM »
I'm allergic to formaldehyde (proper allergy, diagnosed in hospital). Apples break down into methane during digestion which releases formaldehyde into the body. There's more formaldehyde released into the body from eating fruit and veg than from drinking water from plastic bottles.

Thankfully I can still eat food. But most people avoid formaldehyde not because they are allergic but because it is believed to be carcinogenic. We don't really seem to have a clue about these things.

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