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Whites death rate rise.....
« on: November 04, 2015, 06:50:31 AM »
Hi everyone,

The death rate for middle aged white Americans seems to have gone up during the last 15 years......while it has gone down for other groups.

http://us.cnn.com/2015/11/03/health/death-rate-middle-age-white-americans/index.html

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For decades, nearly all Americans -- in every age and racial group -- have seen decreases in death rates. But in the last nearly 15 years, middle-aged white Americans have been left out, according to a study.

Death rates for white Americans ages 45 to 54 climbed half a percent each year between 1999 and 2013, researchers at Princeton University found using mortality data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In the previous two decades, the death rate for this group had dropped by 2% each year. Middle-aged blacks and Hispanics continued to see a 2% annual decline between 1999 and 2013.

"We have come to expect mortality rates in middle age to continue to decline, which they did throughout most of the 20th century...it was really a surprise to see a sustained period when mortality rates actually increased (among middle-aged white Americans)," said Anne Case, professor of economics and public affairs at Princeton University.

Deaths related to drugs, alcohol, suicide and liver disease are the cause of the increase, researchers said.

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Re: Whites death rate rise.....
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2015, 07:23:46 AM »
Deaths related to drugs, alcohol, suicide and liver disease are the cause of the increase, researchers said.
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Re: Whites death rate rise.....
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 08:09:40 AM »
Hi everyone,

The death rate for middle aged white Americans seems to have gone up during the last 15 years......while it has gone down for other groups.

http://us.cnn.com/2015/11/03/health/death-rate-middle-age-white-americans/index.html

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For decades, nearly all Americans -- in every age and racial group -- have seen decreases in death rates. But in the last nearly 15 years, middle-aged white Americans have been left out, according to a study.

Death rates for white Americans ages 45 to 54 climbed half a percent each year between 1999 and 2013, researchers at Princeton University found using mortality data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In the previous two decades, the death rate for this group had dropped by 2% each year. Middle-aged blacks and Hispanics continued to see a 2% annual decline between 1999 and 2013.

"We have come to expect mortality rates in middle age to continue to decline, which they did throughout most of the 20th century...it was really a surprise to see a sustained period when mortality rates actually increased (among middle-aged white Americans)," said Anne Case, professor of economics and public affairs at Princeton University.

Deaths related to drugs, alcohol, suicide and liver disease are the cause of the increase, researchers said.

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For information.

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Re: Whites death rate rise.....
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2015, 08:26:48 AM »
Hi everyone,

The death rate for middle aged white Americans seems to have gone up during the last 15 years......while it has gone down for other groups.

http://us.cnn.com/2015/11/03/health/death-rate-middle-age-white-americans/index.html

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For decades, nearly all Americans -- in every age and racial group -- have seen decreases in death rates. But in the last nearly 15 years, middle-aged white Americans have been left out, according to a study.

Death rates for white Americans ages 45 to 54 climbed half a percent each year between 1999 and 2013, researchers at Princeton University found using mortality data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In the previous two decades, the death rate for this group had dropped by 2% each year. Middle-aged blacks and Hispanics continued to see a 2% annual decline between 1999 and 2013.

"We have come to expect mortality rates in middle age to continue to decline, which they did throughout most of the 20th century...it was really a surprise to see a sustained period when mortality rates actually increased (among middle-aged white Americans)," said Anne Case, professor of economics and public affairs at Princeton University.

Deaths related to drugs, alcohol, suicide and liver disease are the cause of the increase, researchers said.

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For information.

Cheers.

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Give it a rest Sriram your threads are getting a bit of a bore!

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Re: Whites death rate rise.....
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2015, 09:35:35 AM »
Hi everyone,

The death rate for middle aged white Americans seems to have gone up during the last 15 years......while it has gone down for other groups.

http://us.cnn.com/2015/11/03/health/death-rate-middle-age-white-americans/index.html

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For decades, nearly all Americans -- in every age and racial group -- have seen decreases in death rates. But in the last nearly 15 years, middle-aged white Americans have been left out, according to a study.

Death rates for white Americans ages 45 to 54 climbed half a percent each year between 1999 and 2013, researchers at Princeton University found using mortality data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In the previous two decades, the death rate for this group had dropped by 2% each year. Middle-aged blacks and Hispanics continued to see a 2% annual decline between 1999 and 2013.

"We have come to expect mortality rates in middle age to continue to decline, which they did throughout most of the 20th century...it was really a surprise to see a sustained period when mortality rates actually increased (among middle-aged white Americans)," said Anne Case, professor of economics and public affairs at Princeton University.

Deaths related to drugs, alcohol, suicide and liver disease are the cause of the increase, researchers said.

*********************

For information.

Cheers.

Sriram

Give it a rest Sriram your threads are getting a bit of a bore!

Geting?

A bit?
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2015, 12:05:14 PM »
Hi everyone,

The death rate for middle aged white Americans seems to have gone up during the last 15 years......while it has gone down for other groups.

http://us.cnn.com/2015/11/03/health/death-rate-middle-age-white-americans/index.html

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For decades, nearly all Americans -- in every age and racial group -- have seen decreases in death rates. But in the last nearly 15 years, middle-aged white Americans have been left out, according to a study.

Death rates for white Americans ages 45 to 54 climbed half a percent each year between 1999 and 2013, researchers at Princeton University found using mortality data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In the previous two decades, the death rate for this group had dropped by 2% each year. Middle-aged blacks and Hispanics continued to see a 2% annual decline between 1999 and 2013.

"We have come to expect mortality rates in middle age to continue to decline, which they did throughout most of the 20th century...it was really a surprise to see a sustained period when mortality rates actually increased (among middle-aged white Americans)," said Anne Case, professor of economics and public affairs at Princeton University.

Deaths related to drugs, alcohol, suicide and liver disease are the cause of the increase, researchers said.

*********************

For information.

Cheers.

Sriram

Give it a rest Sriram your threads are getting a bit of a bore!

Geting?

A bit?

I was trying to be polite! ;D

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Re: Whites death rate rise.....
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2015, 12:14:40 PM »
It's an interesting post. I don't think it makes a specific negative point about the 'west'. I think people are rearing their own prejudices about Sriram into that.

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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2015, 12:15:05 PM »
It's an interesting post. I don't think it makes a specific negative point about the 'west'. I think people are rearing their own prejudices about Sriram into that.

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2015, 12:25:22 PM »
I wonder if there is something related to the question of standard of living being relatively flat for that group and no longer improving. For non Caucasians their standards are still likely to be improving due to better, even if not equal, race equality.


There could be an element of a regression to a mean if there is some form of plateauing in the averages.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2015, 12:42:38 PM »
It's an interesting post. I don't think it makes a specific negative point about the 'west'. I think people are rearing their own prejudices about Sriram into that.

It refers to "whites" - is that not sufficiently "West"?
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2015, 12:45:32 PM »
The USA is a place where consumption rules. And this applies as much to food as to anything else.

The son of my former next door neighbour - a teacher - went on a year's exchange to the USA and then decided to stay. When my neighbour visited him she found that he had put on considerable weight.

She found it strange that he and his new wife (also built on a heroic scale) never did any cooking. They ate virtually all their meals, including breakfast, in restaurants (cafes, diners ... you name it). She said that usually the portions were large - far too large for her - but they ate every morsel.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:

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More than one-third (34.9% or 78.6 million) of U.S. adults are obese.

Obesity-related conditions include heart disease, stroke, type 2 diabetes and certain types of cancer, some of the leading causes of preventable death.

The estimated annual medical cost of obesity in the U.S. was $147 billion in 2008 U.S. dollars; the medical costs for people who are obese were $1,429 higher than those of normal weight.

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Among non-Hispanic black and Mexican-American men, those with higher incomes are more likely to have obesity than those with low income.

Higher income women are less likely to have obesity than low-income women.

There is no significant relationship between obesity and education among men. Among women, however, there is a trend—those with college degrees are less likely to have obesity compared with less educated women.

In many places in the world people are dying from starvation. In the USA they are dying, more slowly, from gluttony.

But it is not a Whites only phenomenon.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2015, 12:47:04 PM »
So you regard the black and Hispanic population of the U.S. whose death rates are improving as not part of the West? That's a bit odd.



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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2015, 12:52:39 PM »
Are you asking me, NS?

The CDC report also states:
   
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Non-Hispanic blacks have the highest age-adjusted rates of obesity (47.8%) followed by Hispanics (42.5%), non-Hispanic whites (32.6%), and non-Hispanic Asians (10.8%)
   
Obesity is higher among middle age adults, 40-59 years old (39.5%) than among younger adults, age 20-39 (30.3%) or adults over 60 or above (35.4%) adults.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2015, 12:58:13 PM »
Are you asking me, NS?

The CDC report also states:
   
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Non-Hispanic blacks have the highest age-adjusted rates of obesity (47.8%) followed by Hispanics (42.5%), non-Hispanic whites (32.6%), and non-Hispanic Asians (10.8%)
   
Obesity is higher among middle age adults, 40-59 years old (39.5%) than among younger adults, age 20-39 (30.3%) or adults over 60 or above (35.4%) adults.

No, I was replying to Owlswing.

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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2015, 01:16:08 PM »
So you regard the black and Hispanic population of the U.S. whose death rates are improving as not part of the West? That's a bit odd.

They are improving, therefore Sririam's OP title eexcludes them.
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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2015, 01:40:11 PM »
Yes, I know but how mentioning whites which the report does make it anti 'the West'?

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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2015, 02:35:09 PM »
It's an interesting post. I don't think it makes a specific negative point about the 'west'. I think people are rearing their own prejudices about Sriram into that.

It refers to "whites" - is that not sufficiently "West"?
I suppose it depends on what you regard as the 'West', Matt.  For some, the 'West' is a synonym for the developed world, regardless of skin colour; for others it refers specifically to Europe and N. America; for others it is used to refer to the 'Christian' nations of the world.

At the same time, from what I understand from American friends, the term 'white' is often a shortening of 'white trash' - those Caucasian Americans who live in the depths of poverty and often addictions.
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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2015, 03:24:05 PM »
I wonder Sriram have you looked into the average age of deaths in the differing casts of people in India?

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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2015, 04:25:21 PM »
I wonder Sriram have you looked into the average age of deaths in the differing casts of people in India?

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That could be pretty difficult, ippy, as different Indian states have different levels of recording of such stats.  Anyone trying to do so might have to work at the lower levels or district or even locality.

By the way, they are 'castes' rather than 'casts'.
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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2015, 05:01:40 PM »
I wonder Sriram have you looked into the average age of deaths in the differing casts of people in India?

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That could be pretty difficult, ippy, as different Indian states have different levels of recording of such stats.  Anyone trying to do so might have to work at the lower levels or district or even locality.

By the way, they are 'castes' rather than 'casts'.

So it could be done then, even if difficult?

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2015, 05:20:57 PM »
So it could be done then, even if difficult?
My experience of life in India and the sub-continent is 'perhaps', ippy.  Births and deaths are often not officially recorded in rural areas, let alone ages of and reasons for death.
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2015, 05:40:12 PM »
So it could be done then, even if difficult?
My experience of life in India and the sub-continent is 'perhaps', ippy.  Births and deaths are often not officially recorded in rural areas, let alone ages of and reasons for death.

Well, the caste system is being useful to DNA research, those doing the work in this area seem to be going forward so?

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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2015, 08:39:00 AM »
Well, the caste system is being useful to DNA research, those doing the work in this area seem to be going forward so?
Not sure what you are referring to.  Do you have a reference?  That said, caste is often locational - especially in the case of lower and non-caste people - so doesn't impact on the recording of births and deaths.
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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2015, 09:41:38 AM »

Hope...would you mind not digressing into unrelated issues please?!  This thread is about whites death rate increasing in the past 15 years in the US...and the reasons thereof.  Thanks. 

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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2015, 09:45:53 AM »

Hope...would you mind not digressing into unrelated issues please?!  This thread is about whites death rate increasing in the past 15 years in the US...and the reasons thereof.  Thanks.

Once again, Sririam, you are happy to discuss the deficiencies of the US and UK but refuse to discuss similar deficiencies in your own country!
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