Whites death rate rise.....

[Nearly Sane]

Also, I must point out although it is off-topic, that sickle cell anemia has nothing to do with "in-breeding" either.

Good point

[ippy]

Arrgh, I get it now, I wasn't suggesting anything of the sort, Udayana didn't understand how that various closed groups of us humans like West Indians have inbreed and have a common genetic disorders, likewise the Indian castes interbreed and have their common genetic disorders, each caste having their own kind of disorder, which in tern is giving  genetic research a boost as you can immagine.

I was explaining this to Udayana and as well as explaining this part of genetic research to him I had also suggested that this could be a part the problem of the white population's death rate in the US, certainly not the whole picture; or it might not apply at all, thus suggestion.

I really thought that most of the things I was writing about were more or less common knowledge, the Indian cast boost to genetic research is quite recent news.

Perhaps you can now see how I was wondering what it was you were talking about?

ippy

Nope, that doesn't seem to help. My reading of Udayana's posts is that they understand the concept of closed groups - just not the relevance to the OP in terms of an explanation. What is the relevance to the OP of the caste suytem in India and any genetic effects of it?

Do you often have trouble understanding things?

ippy
 

[Nearly Sane]

Arrgh, I get it now, I wasn't suggesting anything of the sort, Udayana didn't understand how that various closed groups of us humans like West Indians have inbreed and have a common genetic disorders, likewise the Indian castes interbreed and have their common genetic disorders, each caste having their own kind of disorder, which in tern is giving  genetic research a boost as you can immagine.

I was explaining this to Udayana and as well as explaining this part of genetic research to him I had also suggested that this could be a part the problem of the white population's death rate in the US, certainly not the whole picture; or it might not apply at all, thus suggestion.

I really thought that most of the things I was writing about were more or less common knowledge, the Indian cast boost to genetic research is quite recent news.

Perhaps you can now see how I was wondering what it was you were talking about?

ippy

Nope, that doesn't seem to help. My reading of Udayana's posts is that they understand the concept of closed groups - just not the relevance to the OP in terms of an explanation. What is the relevance to the OP of the caste suytem in India and any genetic effects of it?

Do you often have trouble understanding things?

ippy

Only when people refuse to answer relevant questions about what they are trying to say. Are you often this evasive?

[Sriram]

The study given in the OP is for the US. I don't know if any such study has been conducted for the UK. The culture and lifestyle being very similar it is possible that a similar trend is present in the UK also. 

[Owlswing]

The study given in the OP is for the US. I don't know if any such study has been conducted for the UK. The culture and lifestyle being very similar it is possible that a similar trend is present in the UK also.

I would have to disagree.

The big difference between the US and the UK is food intake. It has been commented upon quite frequently by friends who have returned from the US that the size of portions, in places like McDonald's, in the US is markedly larger than the UK and the problem of morbid obesity in the US, with its accompanying health problems, is far greater than in the UK.

[Rhiannon]

Yes, people in the US are much more likely to eat out on a daily basis and the portions are usually huge. And they allow far more in the way of food made with artificial ingredients which probably factors in too.

[Udayana]

It is worth reading the article properly - a pdf of the study itself is also available from PNAS.

The rise in mortality is not reflected in Europe, and is not diet related. It is related to increased drug and alcohol use. There is a high use of prescription painkillers by whites with lower educational achievements, and far higher proportion of imported heroin (eg  from Mexico) is being sold to the white population, rather than the black or hispanic, than in the past.

[Udayana]

Should also say (though I probably mentioned before) even with the rise, figures for the US "white" population are still generally better than for other groups.