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Shaker

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Re: Angels
« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2015, 01:56:46 PM »
Any musucian who is an atheist and spends time writing religious music, has issues!
Not at all - writing music is a composer's job. That's what they do, for the love of music. That's why they're composers in the first place.

As the editor of The English Hymnal RVW was better placed than most to know just how many supposedly 'religious' songs - hymns and carols - are built upon entirely secular sources such as traditional European folk song, which was RVW's passion. There's at least one hymn in the aforementioned book based on a tune borrowed (or pinched) from Wagner.
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BashfulAnthony

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« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2015, 01:57:28 PM »

And how would you know that, old man?  Perhaps you could elucidate?

Just be reading your posts, dear boy!  :)

Oh well, I suppose you might consider that an answer:  it answers nothing.  If we judged each other by our online persona, we'd be sending for the men in white overalls.
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« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2015, 02:02:52 PM »

Oh well, I suppose you might consider that an answer:  it answers nothing.  If we judged each other byouronline persona, we'd be sending for the men in white overalls.

A typical, ignorant, BA-ism!

Anybody who considers somebody a lunatic simply because they have weird ideas, is a fool.

Some people are merely misguided, not mad.

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« Reply #78 on: November 10, 2015, 02:06:21 PM »

Oh well, I suppose you might consider that an answer:  it answers nothing.  If we judged each other byouronline persona, we'd be sending for the men in white overalls.

A typical, ignorant, BA-ism!

Anybody who considers somebody a lunatic simply because they have weird ideas, is a fool.

Some people are merely misguided, not mad.
 

Who said anything about "mad?"  Do you ever understand anything that's said on here?    And don't call me ignorant:  I've learned more than you could dream of.
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It is my commandment that you love one another."

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« Reply #79 on: November 10, 2015, 02:09:05 PM »

Any musucian who is an atheist and spends time writing religious music, has issues!

Total bollocks.
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« Reply #80 on: November 10, 2015, 02:10:59 PM »

Any musucian who is an atheist and spends time writing religious music, has issues!

Total bollocks.

Excellent, intellectual, response!
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« Reply #81 on: November 10, 2015, 02:12:33 PM »

Excellent, intellectual, response!

Unlike most of your stuff! :)

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« Reply #82 on: November 10, 2015, 02:15:05 PM »

Excellent, intellectual, response!

Unlike most of your stuff! :)

I can't cope with these top-level debaters.  Well, top-level in the junior school, anyway!
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« Reply #83 on: November 10, 2015, 02:20:47 PM »

Excellent, intellectual, response!

Unlike most of your stuff! :)

I can't cope with these top-level debaters.

I know, but you are not completely useless BA. At least you serve as a bad example!

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« Reply #84 on: November 10, 2015, 02:37:22 PM »

As far as the OP goes, I don't really subscribe to the idea of angels; but I keep an open mind.  After all, as Shakespeare wrote, to paraphrase, "we know nothing."
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« Reply #85 on: November 10, 2015, 03:43:01 PM »
Speak for yourself. Oh, you were. Sorry - carry on.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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« Reply #86 on: November 10, 2015, 03:53:50 PM »
Speak for yourself. Oh, you were. Sorry - carry on.

Sorry, "professor" I thought you might understand, but just the usual facetious cheap-shot in return.
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« Reply #87 on: November 10, 2015, 04:04:57 PM »
Speak for yourself. Oh, you were. Sorry - carry on.

Sorry, "professor" I thought you might understand, but just the usual facetious cheap-shot in return.
Oh, I do understand perfectly. It's the standard Socratic line - "The only thing I know is that I know nothing," etc. Well, I don't buy it. It smacks of a sort of faux-pious sanctimony, a Uriah Heep-like veneer of 'umility. Not knowing everything is not the same as knowing nothing.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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« Reply #88 on: November 10, 2015, 04:08:23 PM »
Speak for yourself. Oh, you were. Sorry - carry on.

Sorry, "professor" I thought you might understand, but just the usual facetious cheap-shot in return.
Oh, I do understand perfectly. It's the standard Socratic line - "The only thing I know is that I know nothing," etc. Well, I don't buy it. It smacks of a sort of faux-pious sanctimony, a Uriah Heep-like veneer of 'umility. Not knowing everything is not the same as knowing nothing.

You really do utter the most pompous twaddle!
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« Reply #89 on: November 10, 2015, 05:21:02 PM »
Rather late in coming into this thread but there is an interesting comment concerning angels in a short booklet entitled, ‘Christ on Trial in Zimbabwe-Rhodesia’ written by a man called Tom Barlow.  Set in the time of the bush war in Zimbabwe there is a passage which tells of how some freedom fighters approached a farmhouse late at night, the intention being to attack the property and kill the occupants.  The farming family were Christians.  But the men withdrew without pressing their attack.  When asked later for the reason for their withdrawal their answer was that the farmhouse was completely surrounded by men in white standing guard over it.

"For He will command His angels concerning you, to guard you in all your ways."


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« Reply #90 on: November 10, 2015, 05:36:59 PM »
I remember when Lin and Megan Russell and even their dog were stabbed to death and Josie Russell battered so brutally and left for dead that she received brain damage.

Still, I suppose angels have to nip to the loo or take phone calls the same as the rest of us, right?
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Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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« Reply #91 on: November 10, 2015, 05:49:30 PM »
I remember when Lin and Megan Russell and even their dog were stabbed to death and Josie Russell battered so brutally and left for dead that she received brain damage.

Still, I suppose angels have to nip to the loo or take phone calls the same as the rest of us, right?

It would be unreasonable to expect them to be on duty 24/7!

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« Reply #92 on: November 10, 2015, 06:10:28 PM »
I remember when Lin and Megan Russell and even their dog were stabbed to death and Josie Russell battered so brutally and left for dead that she received brain damage.

Still, I suppose angels have to nip to the loo or take phone calls the same as the rest of us, right?

Indeed.  :(

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« Reply #94 on: November 10, 2015, 06:19:22 PM »
Billy Graham on angels


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK7v2Z_SqxI
The best you can say of that sort of thing is that it's every bit as much worth listening to as anything else he ever said.
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« Reply #95 on: November 10, 2015, 06:25:12 PM »
Billy Graham on angels


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK7v2Z_SqxI
The best you can say of that sort of thing is that it's every bit as much worth listening to as anything else he ever said.

Don't say you're an expert on what Billy Graham said?    :D :D
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« Reply #96 on: November 10, 2015, 06:26:40 PM »
Hardly, though I'm familiar with the type.
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« Reply #97 on: November 10, 2015, 06:28:09 PM »
And he has such a great family too.

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« Reply #98 on: November 10, 2015, 06:31:30 PM »
Hardly, though I'm familiar with the type.

Knowing his "type" isn't the same as knowing precisely what he said.
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« Reply #99 on: November 10, 2015, 07:05:57 PM »
"And he has such a great family too." You would be comparing his to yours then Rhi.