Paganism

[ippy]

Non-religious people often say that we don't know the first thing about Paganism, well they're wrong we do know a lot about it, as follows:

Ram's horns, an animal skin tied over one shoulder, a crude wooden club, a crude tripod and caldron suspended over a smoky fire, Stonehenge on midsummer's day or any other stone circle that can be found, as long as it's old, daisy chains in the hair, long cloaks with a hoodie tied together with an old length of rope knotted at each end, crude hand made sandals, oh and one of those chairs suspended on two rough hewn poles with four blokes shouldering someone sitting in the chair, all the women are dressed as earth mothers flowing skirts and all that, naked dancing in the dark, (probably best in the dark),  Carl Orff's music played on a tin whistle like flute in the background, second hand Dennis Wheatly books on offer, chalks for drawing mystic symbols, Dennis Price, everything happening in a film noir like atmosphere, all sorts of sacrifice you name it they have it and lots of chanting.

ippy

[Rhiannon]

Spot on, Ippy. You know so much you could almost be one.

[Nearly Sane]

Spot on, Ippy. You know so much you could almost be one.

Surely he has missed out The Wicker Man?

[Shaker]

Spot on, Ippy. You know so much you could almost be one.

Surely he has missed out The Wicker Man?

Best documentary on paganism I've seen so far.

[Owlswing]

Non-religious people often say that we don't know the first thing about Paganism, well they're wrong we do know a lot about it, as follows:

Ram's horns, an animal skin tied over one shoulder, a crude wooden club, a crude tripod and caldron suspended over a smoky fire, Stonehenge on midsummer's day or any other stone circle that can be found, as long as it's old, daisy chains in the hair, long cloaks with a hoodie tied together with an old length of rope knotted at each end, crude hand made sandals, oh and one of those chairs suspended on two rough hewn poles with four blokes shouldering someone sitting in the chair, all the women are dressed as earth mothers flowing skirts and all that, naked dancing in the dark, (probably best in the dark),  Carl Orff's music played on a tin whistle like flute in the background, second hand Dennis Wheatly books on offer, chalks for drawing mystic symbols, Dennis Price, everything happening in a film noir like atmosphere, all sorts of sacrifice you name it they have it and lots of chanting.

ippy

I wish!

[ippy]

Spot on, Ippy. You know so much you could almost be one.

Surely he has missed out The Wicker Man?

Blast!

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[ippy]

Spot on, Ippy. You know so much you could almost be one.

Thanks for that Rhi, a lot of people would say that I'm just another silly old sod but they're the ones that don't realise that It takes the really intelligent few like yourself to appreciate the difference. 

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[Udayana]

So, Paganism is basically a matter of dressing up and acquiring a bunch of 70s cliché or gothic cultural paraphernalia?

[Samuel]

So, Paganism is basically a matter of dressing up and acquiring a bunch of 70s cliché or gothic cultural paraphernalia?

Yeah... what's your point?

[Rhiannon]

Patchouli oil...you forgot something, Ippy.

[ippy]

Patchouli oil...you forgot something, Ippy.

Sorry I'm not effluent in Greek is that wot the oil's for.

ippy

[ippy]

So, Paganism is basically a matter of dressing up and acquiring a bunch of 70s cliché or gothic cultural paraphernalia?

And reading a lot of Dennis Wheatly; you really are clueless Uday.

ippy

[Owlswing]

So, Paganism is basically a matter of dressing up and acquiring a bunch of 70s cliché or gothic cultural paraphernalia?

Yeah... what's your point?

Actually, and I hate to say this Ippy, but what you have described is the stereotypical witch beloved of Christians and other non-pagans just about everywhere, but at the least sensational end of the scale.

Now, I am not going to detail each and every thing that is in error in your post.

I have tried, more times than I care to think about, to describe what the actuality is - and it has been treated with nothing but ridicule and abuse. Rhiannon's paganism and mine are two entirely different things and this again has attracted dismissal of our beliefs because our detractots cannot see that they are part of the same belief They are, purely because Paganism is an umbrella term that covers an awfully large area of belief.

Now, I am going to take a chance that your OP was posted rather tongue-in-cheek for reasons that I, at present, cannot fathom. If you were being funny - then fine, and I will not post further. If you were not - then ask questions to which you would like answers from someone who is a Pagan of many years standing and a member of a Wiccan Coven, Priest and Witch in the Second Degree, and who would welcome intelligent enquiries from someone who really seeks knowledge rather than interminable questions, stupid questions to me, hilarious questions to them, and my answers being followed by pathetic, idiotic, and peurile comments from the WUM's and trolls, and I will answer them to the best of my ability.

To the horror or disgust of at least one poster, if I do not know the answer, I may search Google or ask fellow witches in order to try and answer you fiully.

Please understand, however, that certain information is, in a Coven, regarded as Oathbound - it may not be spoken of outside the Coven. If this is the case I will tell you so and I ask that you accept that answer as the only one that I can give you.

Over to you!

BB

)O(   
 

Edited for typo's 19:16

[Samuel]

Hmmm... I dunno... it doesn't look like Ippy needs to ask any questions. He seems to have all the fundamentals sorted.

[Udayana]

So, Paganism is basically a matter of dressing up and acquiring a bunch of 70s cliché or gothic cultural paraphernalia?

And reading a lot of Dennis Wheatly; you really are clueless Uday.

ippy

I was just trying to work out what my collection is worth. You could obviously do with a copy of the "The devil rides out". Or to be more up to date ... how about a nice "The Ring" video?

[Owlswing]

Hmmm... I dunno... it doesn't look like Ippy needs to ask any questions. He seems to have all the fundamentals sorted.

. . . what you have described is the stereotypical witch beloved of Christians and other non-pagans just about everywhere, but at the least sensational end of the scale.

Did you read this or are you just taking the piss?

Ram's horns, Stonehenge on midsummer's day or any other stone circle that can be found, as long as it's old, long cloaks with a hood. lots of chanting.

Ippy's post edited to delete the rubbish!

Does that satisfy you? You are now free to laugh out loud at the supid bloody pagan/witch instead of doing it behind your hand!

After all my time on here I really should have known better, shouldn't I?

[ippy]

So, Paganism is basically a matter of dressing up and acquiring a bunch of 70s cliché or gothic cultural paraphernalia?

Yeah... what's your point?

Actually, and I hate to say this Ippy, but what you have described is the stereotypical witch beloved of Christians and other non-pagans just about everywhere, but at the least sensational end of the scale.

Now, I am not going to detail each and every thing that is in error in your post.

I have tried, more times than I care to think about, to describe what the actuality is - and it has been treated with nothing but ridicule and abuse. Rhiannon's paganism and mine are two entirely different things and this again has attracted dismissal of our beliefs because our detractots cannot see that they are part of the same belief They are, purely because Paganism is an umbrella term that covers an awfully large area of belief.

Now, I am going to take a chance that your OP was posted rather tongue-in-cheek for reasons that I, at present, cannot fathom. If you were being funny - then fine, and I will not post further. If you were not - then ask questions to which you would like answers from someone who is a Pagan of many years standing and a member of a Wiccan Coven, Priest and Witch in the Second Degree, and who would welcome intelligent enquiries from someone who really seeks knowledge rather than interminable questions, stupid questions to me, hilarious questions to them, and my answers being followed by pathetic, idiotic, and peurile comments from the WUM's and trolls, and I will answer them to the best of my ability.

To the horror or disgust of at least one poster, if I do not know the answer, I may search Google or ask fellow witches in order to try and answer you fiully.

Please understand, however, that certain information is, in a Coven, regarded as Oathbound - it may not be spoken of outside the Coven. If this is the case I will tell you so and I ask that you accept that answer as the only one that I can give you.

Over to you!

BB

)O(   
 

Edited for typo's 19:16

Bit of a mix really Owl, taking the bung out of myself taking the bung out of the few things I've seen that admittedly only appear to me that they have a connection to paganism.

In serious mode, as far as I'm concerned there is no place any of the supernatural magic and mythical alleged happenings that so many take seriously.

We're now in the 21st century enlightenment happened years ago and anything we don't understand at present doesn't mean we'll never understand.

I find all of these types of belief including paganism, that haven't got any rational reasoned evidence that would support them, candidates for open season.

ippy

 

[Owlswing]

So, Paganism is basically a matter of dressing up and acquiring a bunch of 70s cliché or gothic cultural paraphernalia?

Yeah... what's your point?

Actually, and I hate to say this Ippy, but what you have described is the stereotypical witch beloved of Christians and other non-pagans just about everywhere, but at the least sensational end of the scale.

Now, I am not going to detail each and every thing that is in error in your post.

I have tried, more times than I care to think about, to describe what the actuality is - and it has been treated with nothing but ridicule and abuse. Rhiannon's paganism and mine are two entirely different things and this again has attracted dismissal of our beliefs because our detractots cannot see that they are part of the same belief They are, purely because Paganism is an umbrella term that covers an awfully large area of belief.

Now, I am going to take a chance that your OP was posted rather tongue-in-cheek for reasons that I, at present, cannot fathom. If you were being funny - then fine, and I will not post further. If you were not - then ask questions to which you would like answers from someone who is a Pagan of many years standing and a member of a Wiccan Coven, Priest and Witch in the Second Degree, and who would welcome intelligent enquiries from someone who really seeks knowledge rather than interminable questions, stupid questions to me, hilarious questions to them, and my answers being followed by pathetic, idiotic, and peurile comments from the WUM's and trolls, and I will answer them to the best of my ability.

To the horror or disgust of at least one poster, if I do not know the answer, I may search Google or ask fellow witches in order to try and answer you fiully.

Please understand, however, that certain information is, in a Coven, regarded as Oathbound - it may not be spoken of outside the Coven. If this is the case I will tell you so and I ask that you accept that answer as the only one that I can give you.

Over to you!

BB

)O(   
 

Edited for typo's 19:16

Bit of a mix really Owl, taking the bung out of myself taking the bung out of the few things I've seen that admittedly only appear to me that they have a connection to paganism.

In serious mode, as far as I'm concerned there is no place any of the supernatural magic and mythical alleged happenings that so many take seriously.

We're now in the 21st century enlightenment happened years ago and anything we don't understand at present doesn't mean we'll never understand.

I find all of these types of belief including paganism, that haven't got any rational reasoned evidence that would support them, candidates for open season.

ippy

Thanks for at least being honest with me!.

[Samuel]

Hmmm... I dunno... it doesn't look like Ippy needs to ask any questions. He seems to have all the fundamentals sorted.

. . . what you have described is the stereotypical witch beloved of Christians and other non-pagans just about everywhere, but at the least sensational end of the scale.

Did you read this or are you just taking the piss?

Ram's horns, Stonehenge on midsummer's day or any other stone circle that can be found, as long as it's old, long cloaks with a hood. lots of chanting.

Ippy's post edited to delete the rubbish!

Does that satisfy you? You are now free to laugh out loud at the supid bloody pagan/witch instead of doing it behind your hand!

After all my time on here I really should have known better, shouldn't I?

Don't look for enemies behind every post. I was taking the piss, yes, but conspiratorially. It was an attempt to laugh with you, not at you. A sarcastic dig at ippys toung in cheek OP.

if I unintentionally upset you then I appologise

[Walt Zingmatilder]

So, Paganism is basically a matter of dressing up and acquiring a bunch of 70s cliché or gothic cultural paraphernalia?

Yeah... what's your point?

Actually, and I hate to say this Ippy, but what you have described is the stereotypical witch beloved of Christians and other non-pagans just about everywhere, but at the least sensational end of the scale.

Now, I am not going to detail each and every thing that is in error in your post.

I have tried, more times than I care to think about, to describe what the actuality is - and it has been treated with nothing but ridicule and abuse. Rhiannon's paganism and mine are two entirely different things and this again has attracted dismissal of our beliefs because our detractots cannot see that they are part of the same belief They are, purely because Paganism is an umbrella term that covers an awfully large area of belief.

Now, I am going to take a chance that your OP was posted rather tongue-in-cheek for reasons that I, at present, cannot fathom. If you were being funny - then fine, and I will not post further. If you were not - then ask questions to which you would like answers from someone who is a Pagan of many years standing and a member of a Wiccan Coven, Priest and Witch in the Second Degree, and who would welcome intelligent enquiries from someone who really seeks knowledge rather than interminable questions, stupid questions to me, hilarious questions to them, and my answers being followed by pathetic, idiotic, and peurile comments from the WUM's and trolls, and I will answer them to the best of my ability.

To the horror or disgust of at least one poster, if I do not know the answer, I may search Google or ask fellow witches in order to try and answer you fiully.

Please understand, however, that certain information is, in a Coven, regarded as Oathbound - it may not be spoken of outside the Coven. If this is the case I will tell you so and I ask that you accept that answer as the only one that I can give you.

Over to you!

BB

)O(   
 

Edited for typo's 19:16

Bit of a mix really Owl, taking the bung out of myself taking the bung out of the few things I've seen that admittedly only appear to me that they have a connection to paganism.

In serious mode, as far as I'm concerned there is no place any of the supernatural magic and mythical alleged happenings that so many take seriously.

We're now in the 21st century enlightenment happened years ago and anything we don't understand at present doesn't mean we'll never understand.

I find all of these types of belief including paganism, that haven't got any rational reasoned evidence that would support them, candidates for open season.

ippy

couple clichés in this

''were in the 21st century''
''Enlightenment happened years ago''

[Owlswing]

So, Paganism is basically a matter of dressing up and acquiring a bunch of 70s cliché or gothic cultural paraphernalia?

Yeah... what's your point?

Actually, and I hate to say this Ippy, but what you have described is the stereotypical witch beloved of Christians and other non-pagans just about everywhere, but at the least sensational end of the scale.

Now, I am not going to detail each and every thing that is in error in your post.

I have tried, more times than I care to think about, to describe what the actuality is - and it has been treated with nothing but ridicule and abuse. Rhiannon's paganism and mine are two entirely different things and this again has attracted dismissal of our beliefs because our detractots cannot see that they are part of the same belief They are, purely because Paganism is an umbrella term that covers an awfully large area of belief.

Now, I am going to take a chance that your OP was posted rather tongue-in-cheek for reasons that I, at present, cannot fathom. If you were being funny - then fine, and I will not post further. If you were not - then ask questions to which you would like answers from someone who is a Pagan of many years standing and a member of a Wiccan Coven, Priest and Witch in the Second Degree, and who would welcome intelligent enquiries from someone who really seeks knowledge rather than interminable questions, stupid questions to me, hilarious questions to them, and my answers being followed by pathetic, idiotic, and peurile comments from the WUM's and trolls, and I will answer them to the best of my ability.

To the horror or disgust of at least one poster, if I do not know the answer, I may search Google or ask fellow witches in order to try and answer you fiully.

Please understand, however, that certain information is, in a Coven, regarded as Oathbound - it may not be spoken of outside the Coven. If this is the case I will tell you so and I ask that you accept that answer as the only one that I can give you.

Over to you!

BB

)O(   
 

Edited for typo's 19:16

Bit of a mix really Owl, taking the bung out of myself taking the bung out of the few things I've seen that admittedly only appear to me that they have a connection to paganism.

In serious mode, as far as I'm concerned there is no place any of the supernatural magic and mythical alleged happenings that so many take seriously.

We're now in the 21st century enlightenment happened years ago and anything we don't understand at present doesn't mean we'll never understand.

I find all of these types of belief including paganism, that haven't got any rational reasoned evidence that would support them, candidates for open season.

ippy

couple clichés in this

''were in the 21st century''
''Enlightenment happened years ago''

One word is missing - 'were [sic] in the 21st century' AND 'enlightenment happened years ago'.

[ippy]

So, Paganism is basically a matter of dressing up and acquiring a bunch of 70s cliché or gothic cultural paraphernalia?

Yeah... what's your point?

Actually, and I hate to say this Ippy, but what you have described is the stereotypical witch beloved of Christians and other non-pagans just about everywhere, but at the least sensational end of the scale.

Now, I am not going to detail each and every thing that is in error in your post.

I have tried, more times than I care to think about, to describe what the actuality is - and it has been treated with nothing but ridicule and abuse. Rhiannon's paganism and mine are two entirely different things and this again has attracted dismissal of our beliefs because our detractots cannot see that they are part of the same belief They are, purely because Paganism is an umbrella term that covers an awfully large area of belief.

Now, I am going to take a chance that your OP was posted rather tongue-in-cheek for reasons that I, at present, cannot fathom. If you were being funny - then fine, and I will not post further. If you were not - then ask questions to which you would like answers from someone who is a Pagan of many years standing and a member of a Wiccan Coven, Priest and Witch in the Second Degree, and who would welcome intelligent enquiries from someone who really seeks knowledge rather than interminable questions, stupid questions to me, hilarious questions to them, and my answers being followed by pathetic, idiotic, and peurile comments from the WUM's and trolls, and I will answer them to the best of my ability.

To the horror or disgust of at least one poster, if I do not know the answer, I may search Google or ask fellow witches in order to try and answer you fiully.

Please understand, however, that certain information is, in a Coven, regarded as Oathbound - it may not be spoken of outside the Coven. If this is the case I will tell you so and I ask that you accept that answer as the only one that I can give you.

Over to you!

BB

)O(   
 

Edited for typo's 19:16

Bit of a mix really Owl, taking the bung out of myself taking the bung out of the few things I've seen that admittedly only appear to me that they have a connection to paganism.

In serious mode, as far as I'm concerned there is no place any of the supernatural magic and mythical alleged happenings that so many take seriously.

We're now in the 21st century enlightenment happened years ago and anything we don't understand at present doesn't mean we'll never understand.

I find all of these types of belief including paganism, that haven't got any rational reasoned evidence that would support them, candidates for open season.

ippy

couple clichés in this

''were in the 21st century''
''Enlightenment happened years ago''

we're in the 21st century enlightenment happened years ago.

Owl, please be content I wrote in the OP as a bit of fun, a bung taking exercise, expecting and deserving any bung taking given in return, the rest, well I've already said. 

ippy

[ippy]

Just a thought do any of you Pagans want me to tell you any more than you don't already know about your Paganism, before this thread is consigned, just let me know and I'll get back to you?

ippy

[Owlswing]

Just a thought do any of you Pagans want me to tell you any more than you don't already know about your Paganism, before this thread is consigned, just let me know and I'll get back to you?

ippy

HO HO Effing HO!

[ippy]

Just a thought do any of you Pagans want me to tell you any more than you don't already know about your Paganism, before this thread is consigned, just let me know and I'll get back to you?

ippy

HO HO Effing HO!

Why are you giving me the impression that you think paganism shouldn't be subjected to ridicule, why's that?

ippy