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Rhiannon

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Terror attacks in Paris.
« on: November 13, 2015, 10:57:03 PM »
Just about to go to bed and saw this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34814203

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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2015, 12:02:27 AM »
Watching BBC news right now. This one's going to run solidly throughout the night and into tomorrow  :(
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2015, 12:34:21 AM »
It's as good as certain that this was a coordinated terrorist massacre on central Paris last night, with the strong likelihood (so far) of at least 140 dead; reserve your bitching and bleating about America's gun mania for another thread. Any other thread.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2015, 01:21:43 AM »
Shocking. And I don't get it... Why France?
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2015, 01:25:21 AM »
Quote from: Samuel on November 14, 2015, 01:21:43 AM
Shocking. And I don't get it... Why France?

Apparently, it may be the same group who have previously committed terrorist attacks in Paris.  And why France?  Just because the murderers happen to live there. 

I pray for those poor souls, and all who will continue to suffer terribly.
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2015, 01:27:11 AM »
Quote from: Samuel on November 14, 2015, 01:21:43 AM
Shocking. And I don't get it... Why France?
Could be a residual effect of the Charlie Hebdo affair, factoring in France's strong secularism (they call it laicite) which is seen by some as anti-Islam.

And also simply that it's a secular liberal Western democracy, I guess. Not France, Italy. Not Italy, Sweden. Not Sweden, Spain. Not Spain ... here.
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2015, 01:55:33 AM »
This one will continue with more details coming in; at present nothing new of substance is being added to what's already known.
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2015, 06:42:47 AM »
Last night's BBC Sports webpages made quite a lot of the events.  With the Euro 2016 finals being held in France, could that have been at least part of the target?  Sort of as warning/reminder?
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2015, 06:53:08 AM »
Just saw the Amazon home page. Impressed.
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2015, 08:15:07 AM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on November 14, 2015, 06:53:08 AM
Just saw the Amazon home page. Impressed.
I went to have a look. A very tasteful, understated gesture.
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2015, 08:24:51 AM »
Quote from: Shaker on November 14, 2015, 08:15:07 AM
I went to have a look. A very tasteful, understated gesture.
Quite agree.

Just been watching the extended coverage on BBC 1, and whilst I don't want to raise fears, I was surprised when one of the commentators being intereviewed seemed to suggest that, whilst the UK are involved in the Midde East, they re 'less involved' because of not being involved in Syria.  If this was planned by ISIS, and because they don't seem to recognise the Syrian/Iraqi border, do they even think in the sdamer weay sas tyhi commentator?  Surely the 'Caliphate' isd undr attack, in their eyes, regardless of where the bombs are being dropoped?

I am glad that COBRA is meeting later, and I pray that not only do they realise that the UK security status needs to be upped (or is it already as high as it can go), I also pray that the Vienna talks regarding the war in Syria, agin Assad, really come up with a solid proposal.
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2015, 08:37:34 AM »
I was shocked when I heard about this terrible atrocity in Paris on the news this morning! :o
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2015, 08:42:48 AM »
Quote from: Rose on November 14, 2015, 07:28:55 AM

The Islam down the road from me ( mosque) is pretty much peaceful as are its adherents.

But I am getting less tolerant of it.  :o


That might be the underlying aim of the jihadist.
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2015, 08:47:17 AM »


As regards the migrants:  I have long contended that of all these now hundreds of thousands, who appear to be entering Europe without any noticeable security checks, it would be quite remarkable if there are no terrorists amongst them, using the opportunity to enter Europe;  or indeed, any who will be open to radicalisation.
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2015, 08:51:19 AM »
I just hope that all Muslims aren't tarred with the same brush as the extremists, many are good people.
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2015, 08:51:56 AM »
And no doubt will number among the victims too.
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2015, 08:58:27 AM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on November 14, 2015, 08:51:56 AM
And no doubt will number among the victims too.

No doubt, but that won't stop the unintelligent screaming about migrants etc!
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2015, 09:18:36 AM »
Quote from: BashfulAnthony on November 14, 2015, 08:59:43 AM
Quote from: torridon on November 14, 2015, 08:46:03 AM

In contrast to the wars of the last century, Islamic State is profoundly about religion.  The clue is in the name.

Let me enlighten you:  it is done in the name of a perverted "interpretation" of Islam, as all reasonable Muslims  -  the massive majority who are  -  constantly affirm.  Yet another cheap attempt to score points, and at a time when all should be extending sympathy to those poor people.  Shameful!

If we view all such people as nutjobs and random criminals then we fail to grasp the full import of the situation.  This is middle eastern war spilling onto the streets of Europe and the war has political and religious drivers.
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Re: Terror attacks in Paris.
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2015, 09:37:34 AM »


"Ma chère,
Au milieu de la haine, j'ai trouvé qu'il y avait, en moi, un amour invincible.
Dans le milieu des larmes, j'ai trouvé qu'il y avait, en moi, un sourire invincible.
Au milieu du chaos, j'ai trouvé qu'il y avait, en moi, un calme invincible."
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2015, 09:45:10 AM »
Dear Torridon,

A middle Eastern war! Is it?



Dear Rhiannon,

Amazon, very impressed, is this something we should all be doing, how do we all show our solidarity.

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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2015, 10:01:38 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 14, 2015, 09:37:34 AM


"Ma chère,
Au milieu de la haine, j'ai trouvé qu'il y avait, en moi, un amour invincible.
Dans le milieu des larmes, j'ai trouvé qu'il y avait, en moi, un sourire invincible.
Au milieu du chaos, j'ai trouvé qu'il y avait, en moi, un calme invincible."
A fine and tremendously apt quote from a great man. Kudos.
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2015, 11:27:50 AM »
And while what happened in Paris is a tragedy so is what happened in Beirut

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34805466
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2015, 01:36:20 PM »
Isis has now claimed the attacks
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Rhiannon

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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2015, 01:57:34 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 14, 2015, 09:37:34 AM


"Ma chère,
Au milieu de la haine, j'ai trouvé qu'il y avait, en moi, un amour invincible.
Dans le milieu des larmes, j'ai trouvé qu'il y avait, en moi, un sourire invincible.
Au milieu du chaos, j'ai trouvé qu'il y avait, en moi, un calme invincible."

Found this translated, NS, thank you.
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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2015, 02:16:14 PM »
For anybody mystified, a (very) rough translation runs:

"In an atmosphere of hatred, I found that I have within me an invincible love.

In an atmosphere of tears, I found that I have within me an invincible smile.

In an atmosphere of chaos, I found that I have within me an invincible calm."
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