The Meek Will Inherit the Earth

[Outrider]

Well...if meekness is a necessary quality required to inherit the Earth there wont be many I have spoken to on here who will be amongst that number.

Says the man that comes here and announces that he, and he alone, has the understanding of Jesus Dynamic Energy solution for an as yet unevidenced condition...

Still, there may still be time. Put on meekness as Jesus Christ put on meekness and you can all be saved.

Why would I screw over people that I have a reasonable reason to think exist in this world by adopting the recommendations of the New Testament in order to get into an alleged afterlife for which you've no evidence?

We have already learnt that Jesus was teaching us about an indestructible force behind the creation of galaxies, stars, atoms and life and it is only a stepping stone more to realise that our level of health is incorporated in his teaching too.

No, you've already claimed this. No-one has 'learnt' it, you may have come up with it yourself or accepted based on desire from someone else, but it's not something that can be learnt because there's nothing to base that learning upon.

Early days yet but for those who can follow Jesus by his meek and righteous laws they will come to know what causes all bodily malfunctions. Oh, and how to repair them.

We already know many, and can repair some of them - we did this through actual science, not religious credulity. If you want to see where blind acceptance of religious tenets get you, go to Paris today.

This is the power of Jesus' way, his truth and his life.

I'm underwhelmed, to say the least.

O.

[Owlswing]

I can say this boldly because modern science and the Holy Bible are unified by this truth.

This is arrant nonsense!

There are so mony things in the bible that modern science has DISproved.

One of the most important of these is, of coure, the myth of the creation in seven, sorry, six days; others are the resurrection and the flood.

You attachment to the bible is, to my mind, delusional - it proves nothing except that people who are gullible will believe just about anything. 

[NicholasMarks]

Outrider, Owlswing:


The delusional are those who believe that a dot, smaller than an atom, exploded and created everything. That is what your entire scientific community seem to think even though they have calculated that there is a surplus energy with a sum value of 93% of the known mass in the universe and cannot make the connection.

Now, according to the laws of energy conservation this material must have always been and so you can take this as an introduction to Almighty God who also tells us he has always been to.

Your problems are that you think your power of comprehension is greater than the being who told us a few thousand years ago that he made every star out of his superabundant, indestructible, mighty power....millions have found great fulfilment in that source of knowledge...and, it seems, they are to be proven right.


 

[Gonnagle]

Dear World,

First quote is Srirams, the second quote is NicholasMarks.

I think the statement 'meek shall inherit the earth' is quite correct.  We are as a species becoming more meek every day. That's what tolerance, PC, patience, non violence,  understanding the other point of view etc. is all about.  Being more 'civilized' in fact.

100 years from today humans are likely to be more 'meek' than now. The Bible is right on this one IMO!

You are making the mistake of thinking that meek, here, means weak, indecisive, of no significance but Jesus is talking about the wise, the cautious, the considerate, the caring...You see these are the characteristics of those who are repairing their genetic health via God's righteous science...the science that Jesus delivered and the same one that expounds itself from the other side of the 'unified field forces' which is where Almighty God resides and invites the meek to share it with him.

Gonnagle.

[floo]

We have already learnt that Jesus was teaching us about an indestructible force behind the creation of galaxies, stars, atoms and life

Who is this WE who have apready learnt?

You have been told Owlswing and that means you have learnt an indesputible truth whether you reject it or not will not make it any less a truth that not even your very best scientists can dispute.

I can say this boldly because modern science and the Holy Bible are unified by this truth.

You can say it as boldly as you like, it doesn't mean your statement has any credibility!

[NicholasMarks]

We have already learnt that Jesus was teaching us about an indestructible force behind the creation of galaxies, stars, atoms and life

Who is this WE who have apready learnt?

You have been told Owlswing and that means you have learnt an indesputible truth whether you reject it or not will not make it any less a truth that not even your very best scientists can dispute.

I can say this boldly because modern science and the Holy Bible are unified by this truth.

You can say it as boldly as you like, it doesn't mean your statement has any credibility!

My credibility isn't my main concern...There have been many scientists whose credibility has been ridiculed but proven to be correct long after they have been besmirched.

What no one has tried to work out is why a superabundant, invisible force described by modern science and Almighty God couldn't spin up by some wonderful scientific laws and create every star and every atom just as described within the Holy Bible...and if you can't understand this how can you possibly understand the fine detail it presents.

Best for you to just follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ.

[Owlswing]

We have already learnt that Jesus was teaching us about an indestructible force behind the creation of galaxies, stars, atoms and life

Who is this WE who have apready learnt?

You have been told Owlswing and that means you have learnt an indesputible truth whether you reject it or not will not make it any less a truth that not even your very best scientists can dispute.

I can say this boldly because modern science and the Holy Bible are unified by this truth.

You can say it as boldly as you like, it doesn't mean your statement has any credibility!

My credibility isn't my main concern...There have been many scientists whose credibility has been ridiculed but proven to be correct long after they have been besmirched.

What no one has tried to work out is why a superabundant, invisible force described by modern science and Almighty God couldn't spin up by some wonderful scientific laws and create every star and every oly Bible.atom in thbible...and if you can't understand this how can you possibly understand the fine detail it presents.e universe via a route that exposes the true nature of science and which is paralleled from within the Holy Bible...and if you can't understand this how can tou possibly understand the fine detail it exposes.

Best for you to just follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ.

I tried it for fifteen years and gave it up. It works for you - great! It didn't for me! Accept it, and accept that, if your view is right I will accept it at the appropriate time.

I wish that I could ever see you making the same statement.

[Outrider]

Well...if meekness is a necessary quality required to inherit the Earth there wont be many I have spoken to on here who will be amongst that number. Still, there may still be time. Put on meekness as Jesus Christ put on meekness and you can all be saved.

If I had any reason to think that there was a means by which anyone would 'inherit the Earth' or any reason to think that meekness was a part of that I might be worried. That you fail to appreciate the arrogance in your own manner whilst decrying the questions of others just further undermines your position.

We have already learnt that Jesus was teaching us about an indestructible force behind the creation of galaxies, stars, atoms and life and it is only a stepping stone more to realise that our level of health is incorporated in his teaching too.

Nobody has 'learnt' that. You've claimed it, you've offered nothing to support the assertion.

Early days yet but for those who can follow Jesus by his meek and righteous laws they will come to know what causes all bodily malfunctions. Oh, and how to repair them.

We've covered this. Modern medicine has discovered the basis of many (but not all) 'bodily malfunctions', and how to repair or remedy some of those. As yet I've not seen a paper that includes 'meekness' or 'righteousness' as part of the treatment of any of them, but I'm sure in your extensive knowledge of science you can point me in the right direction?

This is the power of Jesus' way, his truth and his life.

And, as ever, that power fails to move.

O.

[Outrider]

The delusional are those who believe that a dot, smaller than an atom, exploded and created everything. That is what your entire scientific community seem to think even though they have calculated that there is a surplus energy with a sum value of 93% of the known mass in the universe and cannot make the connection.

That's what the available evidence shows. How is it delusional to accept the deduction from the available evidence, but perfectly rational to accept one unsubstantiated claim from a primitive society's book of fairy-tales, whilst arbitrarily ignoring all of the other primitive fairy-tales?

Now, according to the laws of energy conservation this material must have always been and so you can take this as an introduction to Almighty God who also tells us he has always been to.

No. According to the law of conservation of energy, if this apparently matter-positive universe erupted from the quantum foam, there must be an equal amount of anti-matter (or an energy equivalent) somewhere else. It may be that dark matter/energy will turn out to be that, or it may be that it's somewhere outside of this universe - the evidence isn't yet available to make the determination. We don't know, and that's fine, we don't have to pretend we have answers.

Your problems are that you think your power of comprehension is greater than the being who told us a few thousand years ago that he made every star out of his superabundant, indestructible, mighty power....millions have found great fulfilment in that source of knowledge...and, it seems, they are to be proven right.

No, our problems are people that cleave to outdated superstitions because the feeling of certainty is more reassuring than the reality of partial knowledge. That absolute certainty in the face of contrary evidence, or in the absence of evidence, leads to gunmen rampaging through cities. That's our problem, having consigned the Big Boy's Book of Jewish Bed-Time Stories to the same reject pile as the Qu'ran, the Baghavad Gita, the Odyssey, the Kalevala and the Chronicles of Narnia isn't.

O.

[floo]

We have already learnt that Jesus was teaching us about an indestructible force behind the creation of galaxies, stars, atoms and life

Who is this WE who have apready learnt?

You have been told Owlswing and that means you have learnt an indesputible truth whether you reject it or not will not make it any less a truth that not even your very best scientists can dispute.

I can say this boldly because modern science and the Holy Bible are unified by this truth.

You can say it as boldly as you like, it doesn't mean your statement has any credibility!

My credibility isn't my main concern...There have been many scientists whose credibility has been ridiculed but proven to be correct long after they have been besmirched.

What no one has tried to work out is why a superabundant, invisible force described by modern science and Almighty God couldn't spin up by some wonderful scientific laws and create every star and every atom just as described within the Holy Bible...and if you can't understand this how can you possibly understand the fine detail it presents.

Best for you to just follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ.

But NM you just don't put forward an argument which has any credibility!

As for Jesus, he supposedly told his followers to leave their responsibilities behind and put him first and follow him, NOT SENSIBLE. No one should put their faith before their families, especially if you have kids!

[NicholasMarks]

Who is this WE who have apready learnt?


You have been told Owlswing and that means you have learnt an indesputible truth whether you reject it or not will not make it any less a truth that not even your very best scientists can dispute.

I can say this boldly because modern science and the Holy Bible are unified by this truth.


You can say it as boldly as you like, it doesn't mean your statement has any credibility!



My credibility isn't my main concern...There have been many scientists whose credibility has been ridiculed but proven to be correct long after they have been besmirched.

What no one has tried to work out is why a superabundant, invisible force described by modern science and Almighty God couldn't spin up by some wonderful scientific laws and create every star and every atom just as described within the Holy Bible...and if you can't understand this how can you possibly understand the fine detail it presents.

Best for you to just follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ.


But NM you just don't put forward an argument which has any credibility!

As for Jesus, he supposedly told his followers to leave their responsibilities behind and put him first and follow him, NOT SENSIBLE. No one should put their faith before their families, especially if you have kids!

Jesus said many things and every thing he said had a vital meaning. He was following righteousness and different people received different righteous messages from him. His followers got a different message from those who wanted to serve him...but the overwhelming message here is that we should love Almighty God first and foremost. If we ignore this message we will find that there are many others who will want to capture our minds, our thinking  and exert undue pressure on our lives in a very destructive way. Adolph Hitler is a classic example...most advertisers are others.


 

[floo]

Jesus said many things and every thing he said had a vital meaning. He was following righteousness and different people received different righteous messages from him. His followers got a different message from those who wanted to serve him...but the overwhelming message here is that we should love Almighty God first and foremost. If we ignore this message we will find that there are many others who will want to capture our minds, our thinking  and exert undue pressure on our lives in a very destructive way. Adolph Hitler is a classic example...most advertisers are others.

That is your take on it, to which you are entitled, just as I am entitled to my opinion, which is just as valid as yours.

[Bubbles]

NM was Jesus always cautious, considerate and caring? If the answer is yes then you are not reading the same Bible (NIV) as me!


Jesus was always living by righteousness. This is a code of practice that is guided by supporting our spiritual nature first hence ensuring that no spiritual energy is wasted. This is why  he never sinned so that you can have a role model that fits every occasion and as you know some occasions are drastically worse than stubbing your big-toe on the bath. Some occasions really do demand resurrection to obtain any justice at all...all catered for in God's righteous sciences which you will grow to understand and comply with...if you want to spare yourself the burdens that will cause weeping and gnashing of teeth.


Jesus was a mere human and had faults just like the rest of us. He had a temper, he was a vandal, he was arrogant, he indulged in silly hocus pocus like exorcism, he was responsible for animal cruelty by frightening those pigs over the cliff; there is no suggestion that he compensated the farmer for their loss! VERY SINLESS, NOT!

Had Floo been around 2000 years ago, the NT might have read like a script out of the life of Brian.

" you've been a very naughty boy"

Lol 

http://youtu.be/af9EHtQMMc4

[BashfulAnthony]

That is your take on it, to which you are entitled, just as I am entitled to my opinion, which is just as valid as yours.

Opinions are only valid if they can be backed with a sound argument.

[BeRational]

Opinions are only valid if they can be backed with a sound argument.

I agree.

Do you have a sound argument for a god?

[BashfulAnthony]

I agree.

Do you have a sound argument for a god?

Yes.

[BeRational]

Yes.

Can you share it?

All arguments posted to date have all failed on some logical fallacy or simple assertion.

Do you have a sound logical argument free from assertion?

I am guessing not

[Leonard James]

I agree.

Do you have a sound argument for a god?

Yes! Science cannot show us what caused the universe to come into being, so it must have been "God".

That is what religios consider a "sound" argument. 

[Bubbles]

I agree.

Do you have a sound argument for a god?

Do you have a sound argument for there not being one?

Just because you haven't found one, doesn't mean one can't exist.

People can also see evidence of one in science.

I don't see either argument as a sound one, I just see opinion.

Opinion draped around current scientific findings.

[Bubbles]

Yes! Science cannot show us what caused the universe to come into being, so it must have been "God".

That is what religios consider a "sound" argument. 

 I think it is more, something needed to have been involved in the creation of everything from nothing because of cause and effect and of what we already have experience of.

[Leonard James]

I think it is more, something needed to have been involved in the creation of everything from nothing because of cause and effect and of what we already have experience of.

Whether or not there has ever been "nothing" is just guesswork. But pretending that "gods" are responsible for everything that exists is sheer fiction. Guess as much as you like, but don't claim it to be the truth.

[floo]

Whether or not there has ever been "nothing" is just guesswork. But pretending that "gods" are responsible for everything that exists is sheer fiction. Guess as much as you like, but don't claim it to be the truth.

I agree.

As I have said before there is as much evidence to support the existence of any of the gods worshiped by humans as there is to support the existence of fairies, goblins, elves and the like. Of course it is just possible some intelligent designer, who was not omnipotent, put it all together, but was unable to rectify the faults in its design.

[BeRational]

Do you have a sound argument for there not being one?

Just because you haven't found one, doesn't mean one can't exist.

People can also see evidence of one in science.

I don't see either argument as a sound one, I just see opinion.

Opinion draped around current scientific findings.

I do not need a sound argument for there not being a god, because I am NOT saying a god or gods do not exist.

[Outrider]

Do you have a sound argument for there not being one?

Just because you haven't found one, doesn't mean one can't exist.

No it doesn't, but there's no need for one until and unless someone can give any sort of reason to think there might be one. The burden of proof lies on the claimant, otherwise we'd need to accept all of the claimed gods.

People can also see evidence of one in science.

No, they can't. People can see gaps in our current scientific knowledge and fill them with God, people can see versions of God that aren't in opposition to science, but science relies on the testable and God isn't testable.

O.

[Rhiannon]

Do you have a sound argument for there not being one?

Just because you haven't found one, doesn't mean one can't exist.

People can also see evidence of one in science.

I don't see either argument as a sound one, I just see opinion.

Opinion draped around current scientific findings.

As a theist myself I accept that the onus is on me to prove what any kind of god exists. Otherwise the position is that there is no god.