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Re: Christianity banned from cinemas
« Reply #450 on: November 25, 2015, 03:10:56 PM »
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Does anyone have a cake with 2000+ candles on it planned for their table?  :-\

Only BA I guess, to show how "sincere" he is.

On 25 December I do though plan to call Jesus College Cambridge and to sing "Happy birthday to you". Will that do?
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« Reply #451 on: November 25, 2015, 03:14:42 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on November 25, 2015, 12:57:28 PM
What is specifically Christian about a turkey dinner with roast potatoes , stuffing, pigs in blankets and brussels sprouts  followed by Christmas pudding? Which of those items I listed would Jesus' family have eaten on his birthday?

I reckon someone could probably find a verse in the Bible, which they could imaginatively construe to mean Jesus liked to partake of those food items on his birthday! ;D
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« Reply #452 on: November 25, 2015, 03:21:23 PM »
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What is specifically Christian about a turkey dinner with roast potatoes , stuffing, pigs in blankets and brussels sprouts  followed by Christmas pudding? Which of those items I listed would Jesus' family have eaten on his birthday?

I wouldn't have thought Jesus would have been a big fan of the pigs in blankets at least would he?
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Re: Christianity banned from cinemas
« Reply #453 on: November 25, 2015, 06:07:38 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on November 25, 2015, 12:57:28 PM
What is specifically Christian about a turkey dinner with roast potatoes , stuffing, pigs in blankets and brussels sprouts  followed by Christmas ...

It's not the dinner!!  It's the fact that you celebrate with a dinner on Jesus' birthday.  Thought you'd followed that.
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Re: Christianity banned from cinemas
« Reply #454 on: November 25, 2015, 06:08:49 PM »
Quote from: BashfulAnthony on November 25, 2015, 06:07:38 PM
It's not the dinner!!  It's the fact that you celebrate with a dinner on Jesus' birthday.  Thought you'd followed that.
But we're not celebrating anything to do with Jesus - I thought you had followed that.

As I said before, I eat dinner every day - Christmas isn't exempt.
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Re: Christianity banned from cinemas
« Reply #455 on: November 25, 2015, 06:09:45 PM »
Quote from: Floo on November 25, 2015, 03:14:42 PM
I reckon someone could probably find a verse in the Bible, which they could imaginatively construe to mean Jesus liked to partake of those food items on his birthday! ;D

You're the Bible expert, still reading it, I gather!.  So, you should be able to find such a verse.  Well?
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Re: Christianity banned from cinemas
« Reply #456 on: November 25, 2015, 06:30:56 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on November 25, 2015, 06:08:49 PM
But we're not celebrating anything to do with Jesus - I thought you had followed that.

As I said before, I eat dinner every day - Christmas isn't exempt.

Not only that - most of constitutes the traditional 'Christmas' dinner features on our plates throughout the year: so remember folks, a turkey isn't just for Christmas! 
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« Reply #457 on: November 25, 2015, 06:34:14 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on November 25, 2015, 06:08:49 PM
But we're not celebrating anything to do with Jesus - I thought you had followed that.

As I said before, I eat dinner every day - Christmas isn't exempt.

But why are people having a "special" dinner on 25th. then?  Do they have these special "spreads" every day, then?
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Re: Christianity banned from cinemas
« Reply #458 on: November 25, 2015, 06:36:26 PM »
Quote from: BashfulAnthony on November 25, 2015, 06:34:14 PM
But why are people having a "special" dinner on 25th. then?  Do they have these special "spreads" every day, then?
To celebrate mid winter of course.

Or for whatever other reason is important for folk at that time of year, which may largely involve a long standing traditional opportunity to spend time with friends and family.
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« Reply #459 on: November 25, 2015, 06:38:57 PM »
Quote from: BashfulAnthony on November 25, 2015, 06:07:38 PM
It's the fact that you celebrate with a dinner on Jesus' birthday.
And your evidence that Jesus was born on 25th Dec is exactly. Zero.

Unlike the evidence that 25th Dec was (under Julian calendar before its inaccuracy caused drift) the date of the winter solstice.

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« Reply #460 on: November 25, 2015, 06:41:20 PM »
Quote from: ProfessorDavey on November 25, 2015, 06:36:26 PM
To celebrate mid winter of course.

Or for whatever other reason is important for folk at that time of year, which may largely involve a long standing traditional opportunity to spend time with friends and family.


Mid-winter would be on the 21st. or 22nd.  So why the 25th?
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« Reply #461 on: November 25, 2015, 06:45:02 PM »
Quote from: BashfulAnthony on November 25, 2015, 06:34:14 PM
But why are people having a "special" dinner on 25th. then?
Because it's Christmas - a secular public holiday with its roots in ancient pagan midwinter festivities and customs of varying antiquity.
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Do they have these special "spreads" every day, then?
No, as that would be far too much work in the preparation and cooking. Remember that the Christmas lunch is typically cooked by people on holiday, i.e. not at work.
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Re: Christianity banned from cinemas
« Reply #462 on: November 25, 2015, 06:45:52 PM »
Quote from: ProfessorDavey on November 25, 2015, 06:38:57 PM
And your evidence that Jesus was born on 25th Dec is exactly. Zero.

Unlike the evidence that 25th Dec was (under Julian calendar before its inaccuracy caused drift) the date of the winter solstice.

No, we don't know the exact date of His birth, and it certainly wasn't December 25th., but tradition has been the 25th., and that is when we celebrate it.  So why are you joining in the celebration?
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Re: Christianity banned from cinemas
« Reply #463 on: November 25, 2015, 06:46:49 PM »
We're not.
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Re: Christianity banned from cinemas
« Reply #464 on: November 25, 2015, 06:51:31 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on November 25, 2015, 06:46:49 PM
We're not.

Then why don't non-Christians have their "bash" on, say 23rd, 27th., or any other day than 25th?  It's all holiday time.
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« Reply #465 on: November 25, 2015, 06:54:16 PM »
Quote from: BashfulAnthony on November 25, 2015, 06:51:31 PM
Then why don't non-Christians have their "bash" on, say 23rd, 27th., or any other day than 25th?  It's all holiday time.
Because somebody, for whatever reason, decided upon December 25th as Christmas Day, which in itself is hopelessly wrong in any case.

You're forgetting that calendars are human creations - there are all sorts of different ones and are subject to alteration, tweaking and tampering (as happened in 1752 for example).
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Re: Christianity banned from cinemas
« Reply #466 on: November 25, 2015, 06:57:14 PM »
Quote from: BashfulAnthony on November 25, 2015, 06:51:31 PM
Then why don't non-Christians have their "bash" on, say 23rd, 27th., or any other day than 25th?  It's all holiday time.

Because we prefer to have it on Christmas Day of course! It gets the meal bit over on a day when there is no horse-racing that would otherwise be missed.
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« Reply #467 on: November 25, 2015, 06:59:18 PM »
Quote from: BashfulAnthony on November 25, 2015, 06:41:20 PM

Mid-winter would be on the 21st. or 22nd.  So why the 25th?

A tradition which to many has no connection to Jesus.
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« Reply #468 on: November 25, 2015, 06:59:25 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on November 25, 2015, 06:54:16 PM
Because somebody, for whatever reason, decided upon December 25th as Christmas Day.

You're forgetting that calendars are human creations - there are all sorts of different ones and are subject to alteration, tweaking and tampering (as happened in 1752 for example).

Right, some Christian or other, nominally Pope Julius 1.  So, I ask again:  why do you celebrate on that day?
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« Reply #469 on: November 25, 2015, 07:01:47 PM »
It really isn't that much of a puzzle is it BA? We all grew up as kids celebrating Christmas as a fun family time and carry on that tradition. I personally don't go overboard with it and can take it or leave it but do enjoy spending time with the family.
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« Reply #470 on: November 25, 2015, 07:02:56 PM »
Quote from: Maeght on November 25, 2015, 07:01:47 PM
It really isn't that much of a puzzle is it BA?
Seems to be! ::)
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« Reply #471 on: November 25, 2015, 07:03:37 PM »
Quote from: Maeght on November 25, 2015, 06:59:18 PM
A tradition which to many has no connection to Jesus.

So why do people celebrate on the particular day, I ask again.
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« Reply #472 on: November 25, 2015, 07:04:34 PM »
Because we want to.
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« Reply #473 on: November 25, 2015, 07:05:24 PM »
Quote from: BashfulAnthony on November 25, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
So why do people celebrate on the particular day, I ask again.

Because that's the tradition - not that they are really celebrating anything just enjoying time with family, a nice meal and a day off from everyday stuff.
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« Reply #474 on: November 25, 2015, 07:05:34 PM »
Quote from: BashfulAnthony on November 25, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
So why do people celebrate on the particular day, I ask again.
Tradition, we tell you again. It's not the birthdate of Jesus as you have already stated so your insistence that it's a Christian festival is looking pretty tenuous, isn't it?
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