Christianity banned from cinemas

[SusanDoris]

What this Nazrin person said sounds as negative, pessimistic and gloomy as BA's posts!

[BashfulAnthony]

I'm trying to figure out why BA thinks it's so despicable for non-Christians to have a nice time celebrating on Christmas Day.

Nope, can't manage it.

Because it's hypocritical.

[Rhiannon]

Because it's hypocritical.

So your value judgement that it's hypocritical overrides your appreciation of the happiness of others. Nice.

[Shaker]

So her opinion, a widely-travelled and well-thought of atheist, is wrong, and yours, based on I don't know what, is superior!

You accuse me of irrelevance, but what does the fact she is well-travelled (not entirely out of free choice; in fear of her life she was forced into exile) have to do with anything at all? By whom is she thought well of and why does their opinion count?

I've explained why I think she's wrong in several posts on this thread.

be honest (you may need to look that word up), you don't like it because it rings true, for you and all atheists who are hypocritical enough to celebrate Christmas.

Except "ringing true" is the very opposite of the case for me and, I'd go so far as to say, the majority of the population, atheists or not, with regard to Christmas.

I thought you were supposed to be ignoring my posts?

[Shaker]

Because it's hypocritical.

I've asked this question a couple of times before without a response - perhaps it'll be third time lucky.

Bashers, if as you have said my nominally Hindu but actually non-religious neighbours are not hypocrites for sending Christmas cards and marking Christmas, why according to you are atheists in precisely the same position hypocrites when they do exactly the same?

[ProfessorDavey]

She was giving an opinion, no more

Indeed and she is, of course, perfectly entitled to her opinion.

; and one which all but the hypocritical, would agree with  -  which is why you don't agree.

Nope - you are wrong. It is perfectly reasonable to hear her opinion but not to agree with it, as indeed I don't.

That doesn't make me a hypocrite any more than you are a hypocrite for celebrating 'Easter' (although you are a hypocrite for claiming that non christians shouldn't celebrate Christmas, but think it's fine for non pagans to celebrate Easter).

[BashfulAnthony]

Indeed and she is, of course, perfectly entitled to her opinion.
Nope - you are wrong. It is perfectly reasonable to hear her opinion but not to agree with it, as indeed I don't.

That doesn't make me a hypocrite any more than you are a hypocrite for celebrating 'Easter' (although you are a hypocrite for claiming that non christians shouldn't celebrate Christmas, but think it's fine for non pagans to celebrate Easter).

Easter?  I celebrate the Resurrection of Our Lord, not a name or a date.  So what's hypocritical about that, eh?

[Shaker]

If you want to celebrate that sort of thing couldn't you find your own name for it?

[ProfessorDavey]

Indeed and she is, of course, perfectly entitled to her opinion.
Nope - you are wrong. It is perfectly reasonable to hear her opinion but not to agree with it, as indeed I don't.

That doesn't make me a hypocrite any more than you are a hypocrite for celebrating 'Easter' (although you are a hypocrite for claiming that non christians shouldn't celebrate Christmas, but think it's fine for non pagans to celebrate Easter).

Easter?  I celebrate the Resurrection of Our Lord, not a name or a date.  So what's hypocritical about that, eh?

Christmas? I celebrate the mid winter, not a name or a purported deity. So what's hypocritical about that, eh?

You can't have it both ways BA.

[BashfulAnthony]

If you want to celebrate that sort of thing couldn't you find your own name for it?

The name is of no consequence:  it is the event I celebrate.

[BashfulAnthony]

Christmas? I celebrate the mid winter, not a name or a purported deity. So what's hypocritical about that, eh?

You can't have it both ways BA.

Mid-winter is December 21st, or 22:  not 25th.

[Shaker]

The name is of no consequence:  it is the event I celebrate.

So why did you place such emphasis on Christmas being Christ's Mass [sic]? Isn't that name of no consequence too?

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlunderer,

But Hillside your leprechauns have the same properties as God and none of Leprechauns.......In other words you are not following ANY methodology whatsoever.

First, no they don't. Whatever characteristics you claim for your supernatural god, I claim different ones for my supernatural leprechauns.

Second, you're accusing someone else of 'not following ANY method whatsoever" ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

'kinell - for once, words fail me...

You have a record therefore of failing in the basics of reasoned argument. So much for a disciplined approach to thought.

Your "therefore" fails, and so therefore does your conclusion.

There are plenty of atheists who will also point out why the FSM and Invisible pink unicorns were a bad move in the world of atheists claiming the rational highground.

No doubt you'll be citing some then but, in the meantime, if they too serve to demonstrate Bluehillside's fourth maxim than they're not a "bad move" at all.

Learn the difference between God and ''gods'' then you might be on the first steps of a methodology and on the road out of Talkingshitesville.

Learn finally to answer what method you finally propose to use to distinguish your personal intuition from just guessing about stuff and then finally ypu might have a way out of your ludicrousness.

[BashfulAnthony]

So why did you place such emphasis on Christmas being Christ's Mass [sic]? Isn't that name of no consequence too?

No, most certainly not.  The clue as to why I place emphasis on the name, is in the name itself!

[Shaker]

No, most certainly not.  The clue as to why I place emphasis on the name, is in the name itself!

Bit that's merely the name by which the midwinter festival is known in English.

[BashfulAnthony]

Bit that's merely the name by which the midwinter festival is known in English.

It is the celebration of the Nativity: nothing to do with mid-winter.

[Rhiannon]

It's your celebration of the nativity; not ours.

[Shaker]

It's your celebration of the nativity; not ours.

That. I'm not celebrating anybody's nativity. If you want to, great. I don't have to.

[BashfulAnthony]

That. I'm not celebrating anybody's nativity. If you want to, great. I don't have to.

Then leave December 25th. alone!!

[bluehillside Retd.]

BA: “2+2 = 5”

Sensible person: “Er, no it doesn’t. It actually equals four."

BA: “2+2=5”

Sensible person: “Look, it really doesn’t and here are various facts and arguments that explain why…

BA: “2+2=5”

Sensible person: “Look, you’re wrong about that and you’ve just ignored the explanations for why you’re wrong.

BA: “Here’s a quote from someone who also thinks that 2+2=5. This person likes Twiglets. You guys also like Twiglets. Therefore you guys must agree with everything this person says.

Sensible person: “Er, that’s a complete non sequitur. It’s entirely possible to agree with someone about one thing and to disagree with him about a different thing.”

BA: "2+2=5”

Sensible person: “AAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!”

BA: “I now claim my victory. Thanks Twiglet-liking person who agrees with me!”

Next day…

BA: “Here’s that quote again about 2+2 equalling 5 from the Twiglet person. It bears repeating.”

Sensible person: “OFFS!”

[BashfulAnthony]

It's your celebration of the nativity; not ours.

Fine.  So why do you celebrate on December 25th?  What are you celebrating?  Mid-winter, I might remind you, is December 21st. or 22nd.

[Shaker]

Then leave December 25th. alone!!

No. It's a public holiday, if you hadn't noticed.

[2Corrie]

One day every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Borrowing Christmas is kind of a warm up 

[Rhiannon]

Then leave December 25th. alone!!

No, it's the day my family chooses to celebrate. And that is none of your business.

Not that we actually need your approval - strangely enough we'll get on just fine without it.

[bluehillside Retd.]

2Corrie,

One day every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Borrowing Christmas is kind of a warm up

Could you just explain to BA that Christians had in fact only borrowed it please.

Ta.