Building a Universe God’s Way

[BashfulAnthony]

Go on BA, have him 

Just putting the record straight!

[ippy]

Just putting the record straight!

Assert away to your hearts content N M, that's all you do.

You've shown your hand.

Not that you've ever had any credibility but whatever miniscule bit there might have been remaining has gone.

ippy

[BashfulAnthony]

Assert away to your hearts content N M, that's all you do.

You've shown you're hand.

Not that you've ever had any credibility but whatever miniscule bit there might have been remaining has gone.

ippy

Me, or NM??

[Shaker]

Do we have to choose?

[ippy]

Me, or NM??

Well B A you are another one that rather favors cloud cuckoo land, there are some worse than you.

ippy

[BashfulAnthony]

Do we have to choose?

I've just said why you should.  Don't be provocative!  (That's like telling Geldof to mind his language:  it won't happen!     )

[BashfulAnthony]

Well B A you are another one that rather favors cloud cuckoo land, there are some worse than you.

ippy

Talk about faint praise!   

[NicholasMarks]

BasfulAnthony, ippy, Shaker, Outrider, Floo:

To make my points I can only go over what has already been said, and it is sad but you are all unable to comprehend a few simple scientific facts...but I want to move on because I am working on the principle that if I point some of you in the right direction that one day it might gel and it might not be too late, but I am afraid that for many, it will be too late, because we are told, 'there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth'.

To compound the points I have already made about the two separate universal dimensions we can now make sense of some of the mysteries which have had scientists mumbling the same sounds that you are making. It didn't happen...It is unscientific...it is mass hysteria...There is no proof...for example...Bruce Gernon on YouTube tells us of a time slip experience in the Bermuda Triangle where his small aeroplane slipped through time and space in a strange and unexplained way...or give account for every poltergeist incident showing that it is gravitational upheaval rather than troubled spirits...and also show that UFOs use a similar propulsion system that is identified by both of the aforementioned gravitational disturbances, and by the proof of it all we can conclude that Almighty God is the Creator of the universe and that these two, separate dimensions are very real and, via the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ, there is light at the end of the tunnel for those who simply follow him accurately.

   

[Outrider]

To make my points I can only go over what has already been said, and it is sad but you are all unable to comprehend a few simple scientific facts...but I want to move on because I am working on the principle that if I point some of you in the right direction that one day it might gel and it might not be too late, but I am afraid that for many, it will be too late, because we are told, 'there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth'.

None of that is 'making a point', it's just reiterating your previous assertions, without any of the science that you are claiming.

To compound the points I have already made about the two separate universal dimensions we can now make sense of some of the mysteries which have had scientists mumbling the same sounds that you are making. It didn't happen...It is unscientific...it is mass hysteria...There is no proof...for example...Bruce Gernon on YouTube tells us of a time slip experience in the Bermuda Triangle where his small aeroplane slipped through time and space in a strange and unexplained way...or give account for every poltergeist incident showing that it is gravitational upheaval rather than troubled spirits...and also show that UFO's use a similar propulsion system that is identified by both of the aforementioned gravitational disturbances, and by the proof of it all we can conclude that Almighty God is the Creator of the universe and that these two, separate dimensions are very real and, via the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ, there is light at the end of the tunnel for those who simply follow him accurately.

Many, many people will tell you many, many things on YouTube. Some of them are logical deductions from falsified data, some or deranged conclusions from accurate data, some are parody and some are earnest.

Citing random YouTube clips is no more nor less convincing than citing your Bible or just spouting assertions for yourself.

O.

 
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[NicholasMarks]

None of that is 'making a point', it's just reiterating your previous assertions, without any of the science that you are claiming.

Many, many people will tell you many, many things on YouTube. Some of them are logical deductions from falsified data, some or deranged conclusions from accurate data, some are parody and some are earnest.

Citing random YouTube clips is no more nor less convincing than citing your Bible or just spouting assertions for yourself.

O.

I'm sorry Outrider but you are totally lost. That isn't my fault...The Holy Bible is there for you too but to become a participant in God's Kingdom you have to have the ability to be obedient to a few righteous laws and it is obvious that you just can't hack it.

You see, once we have become accustomed to the electric/spiritual nature of the universe we can start to see how, by  soothing and calming our inner, genetic health, we can start a repair programme which has some wonderful hidden surprises in store...Millions will tell you, just by the growth of Christianity that this is certainly the case...but I'm sure you can see that your attitude would be very disruptive amongst a more caring community.

 

[Outrider]

I'm sorry Outrider but you are totally lost. That isn't my fault...The Holy Bible is there for you too but to become a participant in God's Kingdom you have to have the ability to be obedient to a few righteous laws and it is obvious that you just can't hack it.

The Qu'ran, the Book of Mormon, the Baghavad Gita, the Odyssey... they're all there for me, and they're all making claims that aren't supported by the evidence we see around us. I know that you believe, but I'm not able to just forgo my critical faculties and select one to claim as true when I can't differentiate between them or see any reason to support any of them.

You see, once we have become accustomed to the electric/spiritual nature of the universe we can start to see how, by  soothing and calming our inner, genetic health, we can start a repair programme which has some wonderful hidden surprises in store...Millions will tell you, just by the growth of Christianity that this is certainly the case...but I'm sure you can see that your attitude would be very disruptive amongst a more caring community.

So you keep saying, but as yet you've not supplied any real evidence for this. Are believers more healthy than non-believers? Are there fewer incidences of any key indicators of poor-health amongst them? That sort of data, and statistical analysis of it, would be the sort of evidence for your claim that I'd accept, that's a testable output of your assertions.

O.

[ippy]

I'm sorry Outrider but you are totally lost. That isn't my fault...The Holy Bible is there for you too but to become a participant in God's Kingdom you have to have the ability to be obedient to a few righteous laws and it is obvious that you just can't hack it.

You see, once we have become accustomed to the electric/spiritual nature of the universe we can start to see how, by  soothing and calming our inner, genetic health, we can start a repair programme which has some wonderful hidden surprises in store...Millions will tell you, just by the growth of Christianity that this is certainly the case...but I'm sure you can see that your attitude would be very disruptive amongst a more caring community.

(1) The Holy Bible is there for you too but to become a participant in God's Kingdom. An assertion

(2) to become a participant in God's Kingdom you have to have the ability to be obedient to a few righteous laws and it is obvious that you just can't hack it. Another assertion.

(3) You see, once we have become accustomed to the electric/spiritual nature of the universe we can start to see how, by  soothing and calming our inner, genetic health, we can start a repair programme which has some wonderful hidden surprises in store... . Another assertion.

(4).Millions will tell you, just by the growth of Christianity that this is certainly the case...but I'm sure you can see that your attitude would be very disruptive amongst a more caring community. Another assertion.

Assertions are all you hand out N M, all without anything viable to back them up, as per usual.

ippy 

[floo]

BasfulAnthony, ippy, Shaker, Outrider, Floo:

To make my points I can only go over what has already been said, and it is sad but you are all unable to comprehend a few simple scientific facts...but I want to move on because I am working on the principle that if I point some of you in the right direction that one day it might gel and it might not be too late, but I am afraid that for many, it will be too late, because we are told, 'there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth'.

To compound the points I have already made about the two separate universal dimensions we can now make sense of some of the mysteries which have had scientists mumbling the same sounds that you are making. It didn't happen...It is unscientific...it is mass hysteria...There is no proof...for example...Bruce Gernon on YouTube tells us of a time slip experience in the Bermuda Triangle where his small aeroplane slipped through time and space in a strange and unexplained way...or give account for every poltergeist incident showing that it is gravitational upheaval rather than troubled spirits...and also show that UFOs use a similar propulsion system that is identified by both of the aforementioned gravitational disturbances, and by the proof of it all we can conclude that Almighty God is the Creator of the universe and that these two, separate dimensions are very real and, via the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ, there is light at the end of the tunnel for those who simply follow him accurately.

 

What is really sad is that you don't seem to have a clue about science, and keep making daft assertions without any proof to support them!

[King Oberon]

What is really sad is that you don't seem to have a clue about science, and keep making daft assertions without any proof to support them!

No what is really sad Floo is that your on the christian board and expect anything less!! 

[ippy]

No what is really sad Floo is that your on the christian board and expect anything less!! 

You're right KO, but these old fossils are fascinating, I suppose it's a bit like when our ancestors visited places like Bedlam for a look around, not PC by todays standards but still fascinating.

I thought of myself as an old fossil at 73, but I dunno, when you read some of the stuff, the religious lot write here?   

ippy

[Bubbles]

You're right KO, but these old fossils are fascinating, I suppose it's a bit like when our ancestors visited places like Bedlam for a look around, not PC by todays standards but still fascinating.

I thought of myself as an old fossil at 73, but I dunno, when you read some of the stuff, the religious lot write here?   

ippy

73?

I thought you were a young whipper snapper 

[ippy]

73?

I thought you were a young whipper snapper 

No I was just another old git, but now I'm a just a retired old git.

My sense of humour fixated at about the age of twelve, I'll put up my hands to that Rose, it's not progressed beyond that point.

ippy

[BashfulAnthony]

You're right KO, but these old fossils are fascinating, I suppose it's a bit like when our ancestors visited places like Bedlam for a look around, not PC by todays standards but still fascinating.

I thought of myself as an old fossil at 73, but I dunno, when you read some of the stuff, the religious lot write here?   

ippy

Very honest of you to admit it.

[BashfulAnthony]

BasfulAnthony, ippy, Shaker, Outrider, Floo:

To make my points I can only go over what has already been said, and it is sad but you are all unable to comprehend a few simple scientific facts...but I want to move on because I am working on the principle that if I point some of you in the right direction that one day it might gel and it might not be too late, but I am afraid that for many, it will be too late, because we are told, 'there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth'.

To compound the points I have already made about the two separate universal dimensions we can now make sense of some of the mysteries which have had scientists mumbling the same sounds that you are making. It didn't happen...It is unscientific...it is mass hysteria...There is no proof...for example...Bruce Gernon on YouTube tells us of a time slip experience in the Bermuda Triangle where his small aeroplane slipped through time and space in a strange and unexplained way...or give account for every poltergeist incident showing that it is gravitational upheaval rather than troubled spirits...and also show that UFOs use a similar propulsion system that is identified by both of the aforementioned gravitational disturbances, and by the proof of it all we can conclude that Almighty God is the Creator of the universe and that these two, separate dimensions are very real and, via the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ, there is light at the end of the tunnel for those who simply follow him accurately.

 

I believe implicitly in the life and teaching of Jesus Christ.  That is all I need to know.  Most of what you are on about is  not a true reflection of His basic, straightforward words.   You wander off into the realms of fantasy, as Captain Mainwaring would say. 

[ippy]

I believe implicitly in the life and teaching of Jesus Christ.  That is all I need to know.  Most of what you are on about is  not a true reflection of His basic, straightforward words.   You wander off into the realms of fantasy, as Captain Mainwaring would say.

I think good old Duggie had someone in mind when when he wrote this, now who would that be?

"I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously.” Yes?

ippy

[Gonnagle]

Dear ippy,

"I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously.”

Profoundly interesting, well yes, something which has affected man since the dawn of time, serious stuff indeed.

Gonnagle.

[ippy]

Dear ippy,

Profoundly interesting, well yes, something which has affected man since the dawn of time, serious stuff indeed.

Gonnagle.

Another one from Duggie for you Gonners: 

“It {Darwin's theory of evolution] was a concept of such stunning simplicity, but it gave rise, naturally, to all of the infinite and baffling complexity of life. The awe it inspired in me made the awe that people talk about in respect of religious experience seem, frankly, silly beside it. I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.”
― Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt

Most of his quotes denote someone that puts reality before cuddly, warm and cosy fantasy; yes I would recommend getting up to date with his writings.

By the way our Duggie was one of R D's closest friends, I'll guess that you knew that.

ippy

[Gonnagle]

Dear ippy,

Theory of evolution, stunning simplicity

I too am in awe of the theory, but simple, yer hero is a better man than me

By the way our Duggie was one of R D's closest friends, I'll guess that you knew that.

Ah! the Dickie Dawkin meme, did that meme start with his Roots of all Evil programme or his God Delusion book.

Gonnagle.

[ippy]

Dear ippy,

Theory of evolution, stunning simplicity

I too am in awe of the theory, but simple, yer hero is a better man than me

Ah! the Dickie Dawkin meme, did that meme start with his Roots of all Evil programme or his God Delusion book.

Gonnagle.

Not sure Gonners but being realistic beats fantasy any time for me, more or less the point they were both getting at, no one needs to be at genius level to work that one out.

ippy

[Gonnagle]

Dear ippy,

Fantasy!! yes that is one of my downfalls, I keep forgetting that I am talking to atheists, tell me, are you old enough to remember that annoying scratching noise when the needle came to the end of the record.

Gonnagle.