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Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« on: November 24, 2015, 06:26:39 AM »
Hi everyone,

Here is an interesting video about how the Pope's kiss shrank the tumor in a baby.

http://us.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/11/23/baby-brain-tumor-shrink-pope-kiss-dnt.kyw

Frankly, I do believe that such 'miraculous' cures can happen through changes in the biofield. 

Cheers.

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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2015, 08:44:23 AM »
The tumour would have shrunk anyway Pope kiss, or no Pope kiss, imo!
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2015, 08:44:58 AM »
Sriram,

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Here is an interesting video about how the Pope's kiss shrank the tumor in a baby.

http://us.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/11/23/baby-brain-tumor-shrink-pope-kiss-dnt.kyw

Frankly, I do believe that such 'miraculous' cures can happen through changes in the biofield.

We haven't had a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy for a while now. Well done!
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2015, 09:20:44 AM »
Quote from: bluehillside on November 24, 2015, 08:44:58 AM
Sriram,

We haven't had a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy for a while now. Well done!

It's even more miraculous than that, I know of someone who's tumour shrank and she's never even seen the Pope, he's that powerful!!! It's almost like he must just dislike all the people that die of cancer... either that or the possibility that he had absolutely nothing to do with it at all.

Unfortunately, as it's a video clip and I'm at work, I can't get any more details on the case - anyone got a link to a text commentary of the story?

O.

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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2015, 04:49:43 PM »
I had a sore arse the other day and invited the Pope to kiss it and its all better now!
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2015, 05:02:39 PM »
Quote from: jakswan on November 24, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
I had a sore arse the other day and invited the Pope to kiss it and its all better now!

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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2015, 05:05:07 PM »
'Infamy, infamy, they've all got it infamy!'
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2015, 02:46:25 AM »
Quote from: jakswan on November 24, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
I had a sore arse the other day and invited the Pope to kiss it and its all better now!

Not funny!
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2015, 09:11:58 AM »
Made me chuckle  :)
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2015, 09:29:02 AM »
Perhaps we could arrange for the Pope to kiss some annoyingly over-large egos that are in dire need of some serious shrinking.

Suggestions on the back of a postcard please!
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2015, 11:01:31 AM »
Quote from: Gordon on November 25, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
Perhaps we could arrange for the Pope to kiss some annoyingly over-large egos that are in dire need of some serious shrinking.

Suggestions on the back of a postcard please!

I expect you to be first in the queue!   :)
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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2015, 11:13:15 AM »
Quote from: Gordon on November 25, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
Perhaps we could arrange for the Pope to kiss some annoyingly over-large egos that are in dire need of some serious shrinking.

Suggestions on the back of a postcard please!

Don't tempt me! ;D
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2015, 02:24:39 PM »

Another instance of how difficult it is for us to change our minds about something! Floo...you are a great example.  :)
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2015, 02:27:26 PM »
What is there to change our minds about? There's absolutely no evidence of any kind whatever that a baby-bothering elderly man can alter the laws of nature at will and plenty of evidence that some people don't know the difference between correlation and causation.
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2015, 02:32:05 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on November 25, 2015, 02:27:26 PM
What is there to change our minds about? There's absolutely no evidence of any kind whatever that a baby-bothering elderly man can alter the laws of nature at will and plenty of evidence that some people don't know the difference between correlation and causation.

Why should he alter the laws of nature? Its all part of nature.  Some of you have this ghost of the 'supernatural' in your minds...which you are unable to get rid of. You are unable t see it as a part of nature. That is the change of mind I am referring to.
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2015, 02:36:40 PM »
Quote from: Sriram on November 25, 2015, 02:32:05 PM
Why should he alter the laws of nature?
The clear implication of this story is that the baby's tumour shrank following a kiss from the Pope because it was the Pope, given that presumably the baby is kissed by its parents and possibly others on a daily basis. That's invoking magic however you slice it.

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Its all part of nature.  Some of you have this ghost of the 'supernatural' in your minds...which you are unable to get rid of. You are unable t see it as a part of nature. That is the change of mind I am referring to.
Anything that's part of nature is by definition within the scope of scientific investigation. Anything posited as being outside of that - i.e. the supernatural - may as well be called ghostly.
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2015, 02:38:52 PM »
Quote from: Sriram on November 25, 2015, 02:24:39 PM
Another instance of how difficult it is for us to change our minds about something! Floo...you are a great example.  :)

What is there in this that should encourage us to change our minds? There are any number of things that have happened to this child, being kissed by an Argentinian is just one of them. Why should we attach special significance to this?

If you want to convince us that this is significant you need to have a number of sick children kissed by old Argentians, and another group not kissed by old Argentinians, and then a comparison of the comparative outcomes of the two groups.

Otherwise it's as likely that his particular dining table has miracle healing powers, or his highchair.

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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2015, 06:11:23 PM »
Quote from: Sriram on November 24, 2015, 06:26:39 AM
Hi everyone,

Here is an interesting video about how the Pope's kiss shrank the tumor in a baby.

http://us.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/11/23/baby-brain-tumor-shrink-pope-kiss-dnt.kyw

Frankly, I do believe that such 'miraculous' cures can happen through changes in the biofield. 

Cheers.

Sriram

It was probably his breath that did it!
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2015, 06:15:27 PM »
Well that's a bit scurrilous, isn't it?
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2015, 06:17:39 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on November 25, 2015, 06:15:27 PM
Well that's a bit scurrilous, isn't it?

A bit coarse, yes; a bit jocular, yes.
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2015, 04:53:48 AM »
Quote from: Shaker on November 25, 2015, 02:36:40 PM
The clear implication of this story is that the baby's tumour shrank following a kiss from the Pope because it was the Pope, given that presumably the baby is kissed by its parents and possibly others on a daily basis. That's invoking magic however you slice it.
Anything that's part of nature is by definition within the scope of scientific investigation. Anything posited as being outside of that - i.e. the supernatural - may as well be called ghostly.

Its not magic. Its a part of our natural world. You are just not familiar with it  That's all.

Its about the biofield (check my thread on that subject). Many people who are familiar with it and work with it, will not find it at all surprising that the Pope's kiss or Floo's field or placing of hands or prayer can cause illnesses to disappear. 

People think of it as a miracle but it is really not.
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2015, 07:27:17 AM »
Quote from: Sriram on November 24, 2015, 06:26:39 AM
Hi everyone,

Here is an interesting video about how the Pope's kiss shrank the tumor in a baby.

http://us.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/11/23/baby-brain-tumor-shrink-pope-kiss-dnt.kyw

Frankly, I do believe that such 'miraculous' cures can happen through changes in the biofield. 

Cheers.

Sriram

I'm laying bets on Francis being the first person to be canonised whilst still alive. It seems popes are automatically canonised nowadays anyway and Francis is a personality cult much like John Paul II who, by the ultramontanist neo-conservatives, is already referred to as "the Great". Yuck!
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2015, 08:39:47 AM »
Quote from: Sriram on November 26, 2015, 04:53:48 AM
Its not magic. Its a part of our natural world. You are just not familiar with it  That's all.

Its about the biofield (check my thread on that subject). Many people who are familiar with it and work with it, will not find it at all surprising that the Pope's kiss or Floo's field or placing of hands or prayer can cause illnesses to disappear. 

People think of it as a miracle but it is really not.

You certainly love your narrow, brain switched off, dream world Sriram.

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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2015, 11:33:21 AM »
Quote from: Floo on November 24, 2015, 08:44:23 AM
The tumour would have shrunk anyway Pope kiss, or no Pope kiss, imo!
Do you have any evidence for that suggestion, Floo?
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Re: Pope's kiss shrinks tumor!
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2015, 11:34:41 AM »
Quote from: Hope on November 26, 2015, 11:33:21 AM
Do you have any evidence for that suggestion, Floo?

We have evidence of of these things happening naturally, so that is the default position.

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